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Hey, Pop and I are talking about semantic information with a plan to discuss the black hole information paradox next week. Could you two either contri...

That's in the previous post. :up:

So semantic information's core idea is that there is no meaning in uniformity.

And: "So the general definition of information (GDI) is: information is data plus meaning Semantic information is made of data, and diaphoric definiti...

I think you've got a pretty good understanding of generic information. I did a thread once on semantic information. To compare: "Semantic information ...

You're making a fool of yourself. Please continue.

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Can't. I work 12 hours tomorrow.

I read Being There. It's by a Russian who escaped from the USSR.

High Plains Drifter

They aren't the sweetest grapes I've ever had, but maybe they aren't ripe? They have an odd flavor.

Champagne grapes are tiny.

The fact that it's starting to be mandated tells you some high powered by lawyers were consulted about the risks. They gave it the thumbs up. Wonder w...

Ok. It will be this coming week. It's the same thing we've been talking about: why a thing is this, and not that. :nerd:

I don't want to derail your thread, but exploring that would be a good way to get a grasp of what physicists mean by information. Do you want to go in...

The black hole information paradox is where my interest in it started.

Sometimes this forum is like: the unmovable object meets the other unmovable object.

The Hard Problem just says science will have to come up with new ideas and new strategies to make a theory of consciousness that addresses more than f...

Smh

You're highly fixated on research. Did you know the vast majority of medical decisions are not based on research?

The Delta is a different situation. We're headed into another surge just because it's so transmissable. As somebody mentioned, we're noticing younger ...

Could be, though. Did you notice how Donald Trump tried to do a coup? Did that actually happen?

There's a lot of utter nonsense that gets spouted.

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Or maybe every rose has its thorns? :worry:

Yeah, cool story. It's more likely that she'll become a social worker and get super burned out by her 40s from working with crazy people and drug addi...

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There's also knowledge and justification externalism. That might have more to do with reference than mental content externalism. To be fair.

But what about eternal damnation, like when people cut you off in traffic. There's no coming back from that.

@"Noble Dust" I just meant the Catholics were one of many versions. They won out in the west. Other versions continued to thrive in the east.

That's kind of rare on this forum. :grin: Not at all. I'm interested in your conversation.

. I think the view you're advocating is internalism: that the world stimulates the brain to form representations.

And the books are really expensive. I'll check out Magee, thanks.

The Catholics actually started off as a sect, not a cult.

One last question, the physics community does a pretty good job of at least trying to communicate with the nonacademic world. Do you think the philoso...

That's what I thought. Thanks! So content internalism is satisfactory to the average scientist, but philosophers insist on externalism? Why? Because t...

What I don't understand is how to make sense of a strong version of behaviorism. Doesn't it rule out sense in communication? But there really isn't an...

Thanks. I appreciate it. I didn't understand it, but I'll return to it shortly.

Brains might sync as people interact.

The OP makes it pretty clear that we aren't talking specifically about Quine. You brought him up and now ditch the effort. That's weird. All sorts of ...

I've actually always assumed he did rule out subjectivity, but I'm rethinking it, actually based on what you said. There's a difference between saying...

If we're planning to do some scientific research on what's in our heads, I think he would say we shouldn't do that due to the unavailability of facts....

So for Quine, it's quite possible that you understand what I mean in the sense that we're consciously referencing the same stuff, we just don't for su...

But the kind of behaviorism I'm thinking of doesn't allow that there is any kind of referencing involved in communication. Speech itself is merely beh...

I'm looking for a reason to say it doesn't.

That's why I say hard behaviorism collapses all meaning, including the theory itself. Is this wrong?

And a reminder about what's meant by "behaviorism": "Behaviorism Behaviorism was a movement in psychology and philosophy that emphasized the outward b...

Aren't we a product of that chaos, catastrophe, and meaninglessness?

I assume you mean by working with nature as opposed to trying to supersede it?

Sounds good.