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I'm thinking you saw Pinocchio as a child and said, "This is inconceivable!"

Among the many accounts of gravity on the table is that our gravity is bleeding into our universe from another bigger one. Some scientists noticed tha...

How do you know that? Chalmers has a couple of thought experiments that show that the two are logically distinct. One is the p-zombie. This shows that...

And you take this to show that phenomenal consciousness is equivalent to biological states? Could you explain how? Because I'm not seeing it.

This may be, but you'd need to provide evidence for it. It's not a logical truth.

Oh shut up.

Yes, but Chalmers hasn't opined on what science should do, has he? Just on what it would have to do to address the hard problem.

Chalmers doesn't think that science, in it's present state, is capable of addressing the hard problem. He thinks it will probably take some sort of pa...

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I'm not looking to do a deep dive on what Isaac thinks because I'd probably bump my head on the bottom of the pool. But he said: The last sentence is ...

Oh shut up.

Regardless, your view is similar to his.

I thought you were off grid somewhere in France.

Not me. I'm always a frickin genius!

Olivier was a little high strung (much like you). He would completely flip out sometimes, especially in private conversations.

What do you think generates that kind of movement?

It's a collection of essays and excerpts published by Oxford.

I think you're broadly in agreement with Chalmers here.

Yes. This is metaphysical possibility. We can have a god do whatever we want as long as it's not a contradiction. The test is for conceivability, that...

How so?

There's no doubt that experience and neural activity go hand in hand. It could be that neural and other CNS materials give rise to experience. We don'...

This was your understanding: I see where these speculations are coming from, but the hard problem is more basic. It's: why do you experience orgasms? ...

So if you aren't sure what the hard problem is, why would you vouch for someone else's understanding? I don't understand.

From what you've said so far, I don't think you do. It's just a call a theory of consciousness that includes an explanation for phenomenal consciousne...

I don't think it's an ontological argument. It's just that functionalists will have to prove that there's nothing more to phenomenal consciousness tha...

What things don't share the same world? I don't know what you mean.

Does it? Remember that when gravity was first introduced into physics as a thing to be explained, no one imagined that it's a matter of curved space. ...

I was just saying this same thing. Worldview comes into play in the assumptions people make about it.

This is my theory: we have a worldview that says individual humans possess qualities like creativity, initiative, depression, joy, etc. This developed...

And then it's interesting to compare Frankish's thinking to that of Penrose: https://youtu.be/3WXTX0IUaOg

In case anybody's interested in illusionism: https://youtu.be/c_69Ros8epE

Oh, shut up.

It was worse. I've gotta good book recommendation if you're interested.

He can be a toad sometimes. He does know a lot about hazardous waste, tho.

I can't believe you said that about Tclark! :fire:

Yep.

So he's saying there is a magic show or illusion, but it's missing something that would make it qualify as phenomenal consciousness. I think Dennett d...

Depends on what kind of blindness they have. The GCS is a quick way to communicate clinical signs. It's not a definition of anything. There might be r...

You're pretty well versed on the topic, what would you say is the best argument against the hard problem?

No frogs were harmed.

Well, yes.

I don't know if that would be a logical error. I'm guessing the strong bias towards believing that we're all the same has to do with communication. Ap...

I see. :smile:

Right, but it takes one to know one.

I see. How did you come to be awakened?

Interfaith is a progressive form of religion where the differences between Christianity (including all it's sects), Judaism, and Islam are downplayed ...

Are you into interfaith?

Plus they don't have hemoglobin. They have hemocyanin.

Uh huh.

Really? Care to justify that statement?