Alexander the butcher, Julius Caesar the butcher, Napoleon the butcher, and more modern butchers such as Stalin. Hitler, Pol Pot, Idi Amin, and the cu...
So many people rely on duped followers for the status, power and wealth they have been able to amass. Becoming a religious authority is one way to bec...
:clap: Absolutely! and often it's about malicious and evil control. I don't blame any god for that as 1. There is no evidence that they exist and 2. I...
You words are very familiar and I have heard them, or similar, many times before, especially from people who have managed to free themselves from such...
That's a good enough summary of the 'dispute' between us, that you mentioned. I say capitalism is vile and that you are the immoral one. Your viewpoin...
I also have had a range of personal measurement of discussions, I have had on TPF. I have had fruitful and fruitless discussions, often with the same ...
Sure, reduction to a panto style exchange of 'oh no you didn't and oh yes I did,' is quite common in any discussion between human beings anywhere, fro...
I don't know if that was something from the comic book you referred to but Adam did not reject Lilith, yahweh/jehovah did that because she would not l...
Keep probing sir! Keep asking the type of questions you are asking. Yes they are the same BUT are you not then compelled to find out more about what i...
Well, the 'moral realm' (I prefer 'moral landscape' as 'realm' can invoke images of monarchy,) certainly exists in human aspiration and legacy and is ...
Fine, and the counter point is be as crystal clear and honest when you make statements about your beliefs of you will be misinterpreted, which is YOUR...
My humanity and my empathy towards my fellow humans and my support of standards such as the golden rule. The judgement of your fellows who hopefully w...
What??? :rofl: Mr Dust posted: " I think the notion that religion is inherently bad because of the suffering it has caused is misguided — Noble Dust" ...
Ok? but what the hell is a hand truck? I was not arbitrating, If you don't want to discuss something on a discission site then don't post words beginn...
Not according to any moral code I would support, how about you? This would be achieved on a case by case basis. Assistance with mental heath and physi...
Yes, the onus IS on you to explain further, or else any discussion regarding your irreligious but still theist status, terminates, and you neither gai...
What's your point? Are you asking me to confirm whether I think your statement quoted above, is true or not true? Which answer would suit the purpose ...
Thanks for the link Frank. Yes, the info I had was that Jehovah was a mistranslation of Yahweh but the language details, and vocalisations discussed, ...
Hello again Watchmaker! You need NO heavy background of study in this area to just offer your pov. Having a look at any cited links can also help buil...
There is no basis of morality missing from secular humanism. Humans can cooperate and agree on a moral code to live by on a small tribal basis or a gl...
Just out of interest, what do you think of this: Between the tenth century BC and the beginning of their Babylonian exile in 586 BC, polytheism was no...
I have loved watching all the stuff about the unexpectedly large galaxies formed at distances of just 500 million or less light years after the big ba...
Not at all. You would not want me to misinterpret or make any more assumptions about which god @"Hanover" is convinced exists, merely based on the two...
I know, but still, it's important to help push it towards being totally and permanently archived. People everywhere would greatly benefit from support...
These are old tired points about the nature of truth and objective and subjective truth, based on perceived reference frames. The annoying issue regar...
If you play stealth then it seems to me that misunderstanding becomes more likely. Please do. Any assumption I make is easily corrected by an honest i...
I think I have made my beliefs quite clear in my postings. Perhaps you should be more forthcoming in the details of your theism, unless you are scared...
Ok, but as I know you agree, regardless of the intentions of the authors of such fables, the net affect on real human lives can be freaking awful, whe...
Which one? Two main reasons. The truth is important to me, and my secular humanism needs no supernatural input to function. I find this functionality,...
Yes, I am sure that is pretty accurate. My experience of protestants is Glasgow bound, and was never important to me, even though my father told me I ...
There are so many examples like this. The way god treated Job in the OT is also barbaric and illogical. I think it's very important to challenge all t...
I have made that particular spelling mistake, since I heard about horrors like Jimmy Swaggart, Jim and Tammy Bakker, and current horrors such as Kent ...
Yeah, I already posted a similar style description from wiki on the shoutbox and some of my well practiced response, to such descriptions. Copied belo...
So why not just be a secular humanist, who have a similar goal of creating a better existence for humans on Earth. I tend to put the letters 'AS' in f...
Copied from the shoutbox! I have serious doubts that an actual Jesus existed, but, to the extent they both died similarly, they both died similarly. W...
Do YOU believe in the Catholic trinity? If so, then you believe that god and Jesus Christ were the same entity. I don't think the 3rd state of 'spirit...
I was going to post a thread on the catholic trinity but I reckoned 'we arra mods' would have dumped it in the lounge or deleted it and I think I was ...
This for me is the 'cowering before god' concept, in the forlorn hope of gaining it's favour. I type forlorn, as I (as you would expect,) see no evide...
I fully agree, I have met atheists who are absolutely horrible human beings, for a myriad of reasons AND I have met many theists who are really really...
Their own mortality and the way in which their death can happen, without a superhero god to protect them and continue them forever. This fear and need...
The origin of the concepts involved, go way back to times well before the Romans, imo. Even the Sumerians had the trinity in the sense of '3', as in t...
I use the term appeasement in it's traditional context. To placate others and accommodate their recent/historical bad behaviour, in the (usually forlo...
Does the path you mention, involve appeasement toward the very pernicious outcomes of a great deal of religious practice and religious messaging? I pl...
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