British Labour Leaders edited by Charles Clarke & Toby James. I keep reading a bit from one book and then jump to the next. Anyone else do that? I sho...
As I just mentioned to Terrapin Station, I have a backlog of replies to get through, and I feel like I'm 'jumping the queue' by replying to yours befo...
Yes, and I agree that ethics is about feelings, at least in part. But I don't think that that resolves the issues I raised. That's why I said "in spit...
The only reason? I see more than that. I spoke about beliefs we find objectionable, and we find some beliefs inherently objectionable, i.e. prior to o...
Then I think that your understanding either overlooks or fails to account for some important aspects of human behaviour, psychology and morality. Some...
Yes, it does. It was a very minor point about your your erroneous wording. And that wasn't the statement that I was addressing in my criticism; that w...
I like that: the belief is immoral because - don't be racist! :D But no, that isn't a fair representation of my position, and your attempted reductio ...
No, since that depends on us. Removing us from that equation results in nonsense. But it doesn't depend on whatever a single individual just happens t...
I meant that it can be the right thing to do. In other words, that it can be warranted, or that one would be justified in doing so. And I stand by tha...
Interesting. So, if we apply that interpretation, and go back to where we were beforehand, then... What was your query, again? What was it that you we...
But I don't understand why you feel that way, in spite of your explanation. They do have to do with ethics, despite your personal feelings. Personal f...
But we weren't talking about that until you changed the subject. As can be seen, although you have taken my quote out of its context, I was talking ab...
No, that isn't what it means, but that is what it conveys, or at least something similar. It's difficult to explain, and its use is fairly unique. I d...
Did you do something differently? Because I separated them with a space - which you should be able to see if you go to edit my post - and it didn't wo...
It means what it says. It's prescriptive, a bit like an instruction, whereas the latter is descriptive. It's not redundant or viciously circular to sa...
Not objective morality, but objective or inter-subjective categorisation regarding morality. Just as you'd be mistaken to categorise, say, a wardrobe,...
That doesn't make sense, since whether it's correct to morally judge beliefs or expression is not a statement, but the issue under discussion. You can...
That you rightly qualify with "some" and "most" and "in my experience" and "I think" is telling, and flies in the face of your first sentence. It can,...
I can't separate bullet pointed paragraphs with a space between them, nor can I quote them. This is very annoying. I want to be able to put a space be...
1. I don't think that it makes any sense whatsoever to refrain from judging any belief or statement solely on the basis that it is a belief or a state...
No, they don't mean the same thing, although the latter follows from the former. No, because they don't mean the same thing. The belief is immoral bec...
The same factors which determine whether we should or shouldn't believe something (in an ethical context). For example, we shouldn't believe that raci...
Yes. An immoral belief is immoral. There might well be exceptions to the way that you've worded it. A false moral belief isn't necessarily immoral, ju...
Sure. I mentioned one already. When I attended secondary school, I was at times judgemental and abusive without good reason, and I believed that that ...
Not necessarily, no. Like I said, it's complex. And it's open to discussion and debate. It might make more sense to judge it case by case and examine ...
It can be complex. But, for example, usually children aren't as morally responsible as adults with full mental capacity. So, that's two factors: age a...
Well, there are legal exceptions based on ethical reasoning, whether you agree with them or not. And the U.K. is much better in terms of freedom of sp...
Yes, in reality, beliefs affect people, even if not in terms of actions you might expect to see as a result, or in terms of any (external) action at a...
Yes. I think that it's still a bad thing to believe. The belief itself is immoral. The believer should not have that belief. It is wrong to believe th...
Okay. So, does that mean that you believe that matter-of-fact beliefs can't be morally right or wrong? So, for example, if one believes that, as a mat...
Nope. I was just describing what you were doing, as I understood it. The same way that it's used in your sphere of the world. Because other statements...
No, not specifically. No. Again, that wasn't the question. I'm assuming an ethical context, or at least what would appear to be an ethical context. I ...
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