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Oh, whoops, I didn't mean to overlook the "in space" part. But that doesn't matter because it's nonsense to say that God exists outside of space, unle...

It's the most common understanding, and Cambridge dictionary, for example, defines it as everything that exists.

A two-wheeled handcart used especially by street vendors, an ancient burial mound, or a male pig castrated before maturity.

You're suggesting that we should make a special exception so that a word means something completely different just so you can avoid a contradiction in...

Wubba lubba dub-dub!

Correct, I've never seen "Rick and Morty". I've been too busy refuting arguments for theism and getting shwifty.

You're suggesting that we should make a special exception so that a word means something completely different just so you can avoid a contradiction in...

A position which rejects a contradiction in terms is somehow less reasonable than a position which entertains and accepts it. Good argument. What next...

You do have a problem. I have agreed with an argument which misses the point, also known as irrelevant conclusion or by the Latin ignoratio elenchi. I...

In a nutshell, your argument seems to rely on tricking people through equivocation of "based on a reason" and "reasonable", which would be sophistry. ...

No, you don't seem to understand. I asked whether you are going to address the problems with it: If you're happy to, then please go ahead.

I accept it (with the addition of some minor qualifications). Now, are you going to address the problems with it?

Let's just move on to the conclusion. You don't need my acceptance of your premises, we can just assume that for argument's sake. Now, setting facts a...

That's not even a definition, it's just someone's opinion about abstract thinking as contrasted with concrete thinking. Abstract thinking is thinking ...

Yes, I agree. But this still has zero relation to reasonable/unreasonable, so you still need to account for that if that's what your conclusion is abo...

And you probably still don't. Apology accepted.

Incorrect.

Incorrect. I'm telling you how I use the word. I use the word in the way that is commonly understood. And I'm pointing out that, going by this meaning...

I know, right?

This is your problem, not mine. If you want to avoid the contradiction, then use a different word instead of the word "universe", because the word "un...

I agree, but that doesn't mean that they're reasonable (by the definition I go by). As I've said, even fallacious arguments are based on reason, yet f...

I would prefer it if you addressed what I've already said about your argument. Regarding your first premise, yes, obviously there are theists, and obv...

"Beyond the universe" is what we call a contradiction in terms.

Sorry, ignore that, I answered too quickly, and then edited my comment, but obviously not in time. Please see the edit.

It's just what the word means. I use the word the same way as him, as do lots of other people.

Ah yes, I remember how it is. You want me to do all the work. I've already provided the criticism. I don't accept it as true, no. Why wouldn't whether...

An error's an error. A good argument should contain premises which can be clearly understood. Your meaning wasn't made clear until many pages later. Y...

:up:

Finally, a concession. It would've been nice if you'd have realised your error sooner, but hey ho. Late is better than never.

No, there are other ways. I've argued that it can't possibly be true in combination with your other premise which contradicts it. It's also possible t...

Yep.

But both can't be true. So your argument isn't sound. P3 and P4 render your argument necessarily unsound.

I'm not disputing what counts as a subject and what counts as a predicate there. I'm just saying that, based on how I use those terms, deviations from...

Hey! Do you mind? We're trying to talk about God here? :lol: Anyway, a consensus is intersubjective. And I wasn't calling that fictional. I was callin...

No, I would just say that it's either a fact that God is, or it's a fact that God is not. And the issue as a whole, i.e. whether or not God exists, is...

No, I find that confusing. Given that, whether the result will be a head or a tail is a matter of fact, and whether God is or God is not is a matter o...

Yes, it helps clarify that you and I use the phrase "matter of fact" differently. But then, I knew that from the start. By my book, you're breaking th...

Those statements are inconsistent.

What do you think of my take on the argument? P2 and P3 cannot both be true unless an additional premise stating that whether or not God exists is not...

Ah! I see. You were talking about abstract thinking, whereas I was talking about abstract thinking. :meh:

Well, I agree with your first sentence, and like I said, a No Deal Brexit is the worst case scenario, so yes, revoke Article 50 if it's a last resort ...

He didn't actually answer the question in his last reply, did he? I suspect that you were right with the, "Leave Britney alone!", sort of meaning. An ...

Person A: "Hey, here's a reasonable argument". *presents argument* Person B: "So, do you think that I should find this argument to be reasonable?". Pe...

Well that's disingenuous. I've defined what a fact is, I've explained what a fact is, multiple times, as the evidence of this discussion shows, and I'...

I could've sworn that you've been trying to argue that theism is a reasonable belief. And if so, I think it's implied that you're effectively "asking"...

It was just a hypothetical. I wasn't saying that they actually would improve your life. That's not another way to be rational with regards to truth or...

Unfortunately, the exotic spresm that is Brexit can't be unspressed without consequence.

You said that it's reasonable to believe what improves your life. If so, and if your aim is to be reasonable, then none of those pesky details matter....

That it doesn't depend on what you wish were the case. And if you don't believe me, then try wishing yourself a teleportation device and use it to mee...

My cat. She isn't very intelligent, she can't speak any English, she sleeps through much of the day, and she shits in a litter tray, but she would sti...