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I don't know, you'd have to ask him. But bear in mind that you already know that he's the kind of person who thinks that it's acceptable to sacrifice ...

Let's not cast baseless smears? But aren't you defending Trump? :chin: Or is it okay when he does it?

You already have your pleasure machine, figuratively speaking. It may as well be one. Who cares for the truth when you have your pleasure, right? :vom...

I can't choose what to believe. I can take steps which might or might not lead to delusion. But I don't agree with your mindless happy delusion anyway...

It's not even a choice. I can't choose what to believe. Beliefs are involuntary, and I'm reasonable by disposition. What you're talking about is falla...

I have plenty of beliefs, some of which I've revealed. But beliefs in the sense that you really seem to mean are weakly supported beliefs. You're assu...

"Based on reason" is a weakness I pointed out from the very beginning. Plenty of fallacies are based on reason.

Which, in itself, is trivial, but which is, more likely for your purpose, a false equivalence. See my earlier distinction.

It's a very long and complex argument. I don't even know where to begin. Overall, I'm just not convinced and would need to think it over way more for ...

You've got him there. Nicely done. :ok:

I do, but you're unfortunately proving incapable of comprehending the vital distinction between, on the one hand, what counts as a matter of fact, and...

Oh god. What a muddle you're turning this into. You've hastily skipped ahead. Don't try to run before you can walk. I already told you that when I'm s...

I'm getting tired of these ambiguous statements from you where it isn't clear what you mean. We've been here so many times before, and I don't want to...

I'm not sure why you're skipping ahead and asking me that question. I first wanted to make sure that we were on the same semantic page regarding matte...

Odd. You give the impression here that you're okay with some sort of minimalist definition of God as a first cause, which barely even counts as a God ...

Show me where I've declared it so. You can't. What I actually said was that I remain unconvinced that it's sound. I write carefully, and you read reck...

You seem to have misunderstood. Maybe we're talking past each other because you're misinterpreting the phrase, "matter of fact". I did point out this ...

Wow, ten times and you're still misunderstanding what I'm doing. Right now, the only thing that matters is simply whether or not it's a matter of fact...

Whaaaaaat? :chin: I don't understand how these two seemingly contradictory statements can be compatible. Unless maybe you're misusing the terms involv...

There's a problem if you're calling "faith" what I mean by “an act of reasoned belief”, as I think that that's misleading. But otherwise, sure, it's e...

See the edit.

I know that that's what you believe. I remember from when you brought it up before. I'm sceptical at best on whether or not it's logically sound, whic...

Sound reasoning which concludes that God exists, which is fundamental to being a Christian. I do not know of any such reasoning. If you think that you...

If theism is not outside of what's factual, then it must be within the domain of what's factual, meaning that it's a matter of fact. Theism is the bel...

If you do call being a Christian “an act of reasoned belief” and mean the same thing as I do, then we will be in disagreement, and I base that disagre...

It's 10 O'clock at night. :grin:

If you believe anything beyond what's probable, then that's faith. But if you can't help it because of the circumstances, then importantly, that's dif...

No, it would be an act of reasoned belief, not an act of faith. I would reason that if my parachute is packed correctly, then jumping won't be a probl...

We can't step outside of ourselves in the sense that I meant. In cases where there are multiple arguments where the conclusions are incompatible, and ...

Why the heck am I doing all the work here? You can't remember your own argument, so I must go back and quote you your own damn words? Jesus Christ.

Well, this is kind of silly, because none of us can step outside of ourselves, can we? There's always a subjective element, but so what? That certainl...

See above.

What has any of that got to do with whether or not the issue of whether or not God exists is a matter of fact? It looks like a giant red herring. This...

And this I answered with my explanation of why it is a matter of fact, which you ignored. And then I explained that, under the assumption for argument...

Sigh. You're a pain. You owe me for this one, so less of the attitude would be nice, although I know that I'm hardly the most amenable of chaps. I wen...

Of course it's a big ask! If I thought that it was reasonable, as distinguished from being based on reason, then I might be a theist. A reasonable arg...

I did. You didn't address it, if I recall correctly. So go back and find it, then get back to me. I'm certainly not going to find it for you.

Who are you again? :lol:

Wow, you really are a rank amateur. You don't even understand how the burden of proof works and you interpret it in a fallacious way. That's a textboo...

No, it could be based on reasoned belief as opposed to faith. I reject your criteria for what counts as faith. Reasoned belief is based on sufficient ...

If that's your claim, then that requires a big explanation from you. Where is this explanation?

Yes, I agree with that logic. However, I reject the premise as false. And this is your argument from ignorance where you attempt to shift the burden f...

Oh my goodness. Where on earth are you getting that from? Certainly not from what you quoted. Anyway, taken straight from the conclusion of your argum...

I accept that people have faith in ordinary contexts. We can distinguish that from reasoned belief. I might slip into the habit of having faith that t...

@"Rank Amateur" I can't believe that you're being so childish as to stubbornly refuse to help me to help you in the simplest of ways. I'll skip past t...

Okay, you're being a dick. I told you that it's unclear to me, and I could have also been a dick by blaming that on your incompetence in expressing yo...

If you believe that you've properly addressed it even once in this discussion, then you are truly deluded. (But then we already knew that). And no, ca...

How about we take this step by step? Do you agree that A is false? In other words, do you agree that whether or not God exists a matter of fact? Yes o...

I forgot to address the last part: I was specifically referring to the one that you've evaded addressing, and deny is an argument. I know that you kno...

Let's get this straight. If you accept that A is false, then I am charging you with attempting to shift the burden. I have a burden for making the cas...