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Sure, I agree. The error theory would just say they're all false.

I'm always glad to find when things make sense together. :) I like this notion. From my current thinking: the T-sentence allows for some substantive t...

Yup! This is what I love about the screw in the drawer example -- it gave an intuitive example of the slingshot. So when you say "The kettle is black"...

Well, I didn't agree to that. I counted the screw at T1 and T2 -- I wouldn't want you saying false things, after all.

I think the suspicion is that the only way we'd be able to set out material facts is through language, and that's what the RHS is purportedly doing, b...

Maybe a way to think on this is to say that there isn't always some material component to facts. The abstractions are like this -- logical rules, arit...

Sure I can. A few pages later he comes back from the dead. Hardly seems a credible book to take literally -- so it's reasonable to conclude Jesus didn...

Yup! The only thing I've asserted against the redundancy theory is the liar's paradox, since it gives the value false in addition to true -- and noted...

Small-t truth I've been reserving for the truth we attribute to sentences, which is shown by the T-sentence -- the truth predicate can be dropped when...

Fair. I think I added to the confusion by stating my terms so starkly. As @"Isaac" noted: I'm good enough with "A little leery" -- consider my thought...

Thanks :). I'm glad to hear so. I'm not sure how to proceed without sentences that are true (or are truth-apt, at least). I'm fine with not specifying...

Isn't it great? :D To be even more pedantic, we all seem fine with some true sentences, and even agree upon some of which of those sentences count as ...

Bingo! I mean, sure, introspection is a part of my thinking (in the sense that we probably can't help but to introspect when thinking about the mind),...

This is interesting, and getting closer to our disagreement. I think I could go along with this and your grocery list example with the understanding t...

Though, now thinking -- I should be explicit @"Isaac" and say I'm fine with, in the end, the mind being inconsistent too. So, yes, it's quite possible...

I'm saying I don't even know if the mind is an entity. Whether the mind is a real thing or not isn't determined by myself. I'd say that the reason for...

I'm going to be real and say I have no idea what kind of entity the mind is. Is it even an entity at all? We have brains, sure. But the mind isn't som...

:D I'd say that all methodologies give both right and wrong answers -- what makes them methodologies is that they resolve disputes, not that they deli...

At bottom I've said belief is a habit -- so it could be a mental habit, it could be a physical habit -- so yes I think that sounds right. Though I don...

Cool. :) Finding where disagreement arises counts as progress in my book! Against my model (of truth), I'd say that knowledge which is not based on co...

Thanks for putting in that effort @"Srap Tasmaner" -- I think the psychological reality of belief undermines notions of "storage" -- a computer can st...

I say have at it, keep going, and all that. "Model" was the word I was focusing on in my thoughts, so I might be one of the ones who dislikes that. :D...

Cool. I guess my thought at the moment is with respect to this actuality stuff and its relationship to facts. Facts are the stuff of science. But they...

Yeh, a bit an an aside, I'll admit. Though only a bit. One of the reasons I've adopted my stance on truth is because of stuff like that -- the things ...

Interestingly, the use of a laser will carry with it more uncertainty because interpreting the results of a laser requires more theoretical baggage th...

This approach has the advantage of at least spelling out correspondence, I'd say. The world is, indeed, English-shaped (or concept-shaped, I suspect) ...

A much better explication than my objection about "the world" being "english shaped"

Same.

But we must, yes? I don't believe in universal tonics. Some of what you list have political solutions, but those are anxiety producing because we, as ...

Well, that's unexpected. ;) I think I'd say that reality is fundamentally absurd, but for different reasons. Even so, I think I feel what you're sayin...

And yet, the son will find, that the real lesson is: "Don't trust your father" because we live on trust. No one is an island. We are all vulnerable, w...

For myself, at least, this is what iteration was supposed to address (and answer in the affirmative) -- by iterating actual sentences we can come to u...

I suppose it's that it seems like it means something, but the attempts as specifying a meaning are not universal to the use of "... is true", and the ...

I agree with this. There's a reason the myth of the cave has appeal -- it captures the feeling of discovery very well.

Heh. I'm still working through my views, as always. But good call -- I'll "stake out" my position as I understand it right now. I have said before tha...

I did. I figured when you said That your example was meant to convey something about someone without language using correspondence, so I thought it im...

But then, doesn't it bare to reason that if our imaginations cannot image particle-wave duality, yet particle-wave duality is true, that logic isn't b...

Now, these examples are close to home, so I feel a bit unfair criticizing them. But I'd say that there's a difference between knowing and being able t...

Why not? Aren't we doing so right now, through the power of language?

The imagination is the sort of thing that changes -- and so it's not a basis for understanding logic, given that logic is more stable than the imagina...

Yup!

EDIT: Accidentally cut off the link to the post in my reply. The problem with using the imagination as a basis for logic is that people have different...

Is it? If truth is linguistic, and animals don't speak, then those animal behaviors won't tell us about truth. Perhaps a better tact, though: if truth...

From the examples that we'd be looking at, as persons interested in some meta-lingual predicate, like truth. The example sentences aren't going to be ...

I was going to say no difference, other than some extra accounting being redundantly performed, but I think I like this answer too: :D

Yes, I'll not pursue that thread further in this thread. Good point. On topic: I think that you and I agree on those three things, thus far.

Heh, I suppose I'm being a bit tongue-in-cheek. In that sense, yes, philosophy is clearly useful, but useful-for. When I say philosophy is useless, I ...

Came across this quote in reviewing what I've read today, and it was germane to the conversations I've been participating in:

I think I'd just include the middle classes with the gullible poors in your schema. The silver-souled persons see themselves as above the bronze-soule...

Well, hold on a second there. Suppose the case of seeing the sheet-as-sheet. Then we'd have direct access to the sheet. It's just that it is also poss...