I think it's sort of like taking the limit. The more you talk about it the closer you approach the ineffable. At 2k posts we'll be certain to at least...
Cool. I was saying alienation couldn't be represented in Searle's language of institutions but... more specific to the thread on Searle you pointed ou...
I think some of what I replied to @"Banno" makes this clearer. I'm on board with language being an institution in this very broad rule of thumb you pu...
So far so good on this phrasing. I went through the thread on Searle you linked so I'm sort of responding to all the ideas that were in it at once. If...
I'm not sure. Just looking at linguistic institutions, it seems to me that all linguistic institutions do the opposite of making certain marks count a...
Cool. I think the meaning encoded institutionally is always after the fact. But that doesn't mean the words we use right now don't have meaning. Langu...
Heh. Mostly just looking for something that might differentiate us. Cool. I agree so far. Good point. I agree neither is logically prior to the other....
There might be our difference. How language is constructed is unknown. The rules come after the fact as explanations for our usage, but even those rul...
I think that's a point under contention :D As @"Banno" put it, the subject is a Cartesian hangover which is better gotten rid of. (or, metaphysically,...
:) Thanks. One day, I'll be strong enough to do the third reading, where-upon the true and secret meaning I've been seeking will reveal itself to me. ...
:D I understand what you mean, but I actually love reading Kant. It's not literary at all, so that's why I say I understand. But I sort of enjoy the r...
I'm not sure... But, just generically speaking, OLP includes Sense and Sensibilia -- a book I read some time ago on @"Banno"'s mention, and that seems...
I see that! At the very least, that makes sense of his various contradictions, and aphoristic style of speaking, and his stance on truth... I feel you...
This was an insight for me, way back when, upon reading Nietzsche -- he contradicts himself, even in the same work. Maybe it's wrong, but I interpret ...
Cool. I don't think I meant any particular philosophy. Actually, I'd say one of the things I've been pushing against in this thread is the notion that...
Yeh, but to be fair -- I like that about this place. I like that it sits in-between, so I don't feel so bad about exploring odd thoughts or things I k...
Sure. "functioning", though, isn't the question being asked. I'm wondering about "after enlightenment". "in tandem" suggests to me the dualism you're ...
Yup. Almost like "ultimate meaning" is a ruse. But when you realize your actions matter -- maybe not on the scale of "everything" -- but matter none-t...
Just going to note that "what come's next?" is a question for after the trip, when you have to... well, do the things. work, or whatever it is. What c...
Gonna do my thing here and say these aren't at odds, and in fact, are favorable to one another. Perception's role is not truth or a veridical recovery...
I'm still following. I've just been reading along now in an attempt to untangle thoughts. And scratch the itch. I'm thinking that you're close, but al...
So it's understandable that... For you, though -- One reason to bother would be that it's pleasant to bother. But for you that's a mere rationalizatio...
You should have started with the ending post. :) There is something to the notion that happiness is not ephemeral. Happiness is achieved through the d...
I think there's something to Iris Murdoch's "dogged insistence" as a defining feature of philosophy with respect to fiction, as highlighted by @"180 P...
"Delusion" is exactly what an account would be. To be able to determine if someone is deluded, you sort of already have to have a notion about determi...
I tend to think of philosophy as wisdom literature. The literature is intended to educate -- sort of like the various religious scripts. But it's not ...
I think it's complicated, and somewhat relative. There's enough overlap between people who seem happy and what they say about it that there's somethin...
Take for example the forum we are posting on. Every time I write something, even out of habit or mistake, I'm being creative. Wouldn't it depend upon ...
See, I think we're beginning on opposite sides here. Also, I disagree with your take on Chalmers, but that might be better for another thread. (as a h...
Banno got it right. Digging through the historical record to find scientists who agree with you isn't as hard as you might imagine. Scientists often b...
By all means, I am way out of my depth. That's what makes it interesting. :D Perhaps I'll say some nonsense along the way, but that's all part of the ...
No, not ineffable. That's not right. And I wouldn't endorse that conclusion or form of the argument. Maybe it's better to say that this is very imagin...
And yet . . . It's a good point. We don't expect the crabs or the lions to talk, but some of us might talk to them. Or even claim to hear them. So, wh...
Good points. And, by extension, do we humans do the same while feeling like we do differently? (the epiphenomenal belief, I think, fits here) I'll adm...
Embedded implications always take me a long time to think through. So I'm saying P, in your P->Q scheme where P stands for the original implication, i...
"If a lion could talk, we could not understand him" I disagree here because a lion cannot talk, and so we cannot understand him. If I interpret "form ...
Right! It's a simple enough inference. There are times before when I've mistaken all of what I experience as reality (dreams), and so I wonder: to wha...
Cool. So this would suggest our language isn't necessarily a brain thing. The brain is involved, of course, so that's not where I'm going here. And, s...
So the brain is an organ of an organism which somehow spawned some time ago -- and we can see its clear evolutionary advantages. In a way the brain en...
One of the things I'm thinking is how brains pre-date language to the extent that they are shared by many species prior to even our own species. So, i...
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