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Nope. Reality changed, but that's not a lift off from reality.
January 03, 2024 at 00:40
The material is the social, and the social is the economic. So the material is the economic. Whether you conceive of that like Marx does or whether yo...
January 03, 2024 at 00:31
I think a little more than that. Not only that it has multiple meanings, but that this meaning is better than the one set out by the mind-body problem...
January 03, 2024 at 00:27
Ehhh... not quite. Rather that materialism can be defined by more than the mind-body problem, as can philosophy. Marx was, after all, a philosopher.
January 03, 2024 at 00:03
It only has a meaning within a context or a background of some sort. One context is the mind-body problem, and there the contrast is with mind, where ...
January 02, 2024 at 23:54
Mkay. Focus on the big-picture idea then. "dialectical materialism" because the main perspective thus far has been from the mind-body problem, and I'm...
January 02, 2024 at 23:12
Between the proletariat and the bourgeoisie.
January 02, 2024 at 23:06
The big-picture idea is that the material is the social world we inhabit. So, given that this is a materialism, no immaterial. "dialectical" because t...
January 02, 2024 at 23:03
I think it's easier to defend a version of "dialectical materialism" over "physicalism" -- the physical is the social space we inhabit. We can specula...
January 02, 2024 at 22:55
ah! I should have linked that one.
December 30, 2023 at 02:28
:up:
December 30, 2023 at 02:03
Started a thread I started reading today with a link to this Anscomb paper titled Causality and Determination What's your take?
December 30, 2023 at 01:56
Yup. Miracles really are true, we managed to close a thread of thought. What say you @"schopenhauer1"? I'm wondering if the premises from causation co...
December 29, 2023 at 23:38
Yes, I agree. And normally I wouldn't bother to make a distinction. But then there's the part of me that thinks "Well, I know this is persnickity, but...
December 29, 2023 at 23:22
With the lectern this makes a lot of sense to me because I can't honestly think of how an individual under discussion could possibly be made of ice fr...
December 29, 2023 at 22:07
Heh. I'd say I'm confused and trying to figure things out. :D But thank you for the vote of confidence. Cool, so I'm misusing "extension" then -- thou...
December 29, 2023 at 21:08
I was thinking that: Meant I should reconsider some things because I think people are actually referring to what they say they are referring to. The d...
December 29, 2023 at 01:02
Hah. OK I did use "lone molecule of water" though.
December 29, 2023 at 00:08
I'm confused here. A lone molecule of water, to my mind, is one floating in space somewhere around a planet that happens to have water, and given the ...
December 29, 2023 at 00:06
I can offer a common sense thought: Clouds don't instantly appear because H2O molecules have been individualized in the gas phase. You only see clouds...
December 28, 2023 at 23:54
Yes.
December 28, 2023 at 23:38
Following my thought to its (seemingly) logical conclusion -- there are no lone molecules of water. Insofar that we're willing to use chemistry in a p...
December 28, 2023 at 23:33
Yeah I think that introducing "cause" creates more problems than it solves. Which causality? Stochastic causality, for instance, could have a necessar...
December 28, 2023 at 22:28
A funny thought: If water is H?O then water is necessarily H?O It is possible that water is not H?O Therefore, water is not H?O I'd say this is a redu...
December 28, 2023 at 22:24
I best be careful then. If my account means that people cannot refer then it's in trouble since we do successfully refer! Isotopes are a good example ...
December 28, 2023 at 22:11
Got it. So we agree on the latter, at least, and to be honest I'm somewhat hesitant about my distinction between water and H2O, though I think that th...
December 28, 2023 at 15:42
Yes on future-looking, but I'm uncertain on probability. If water actually is H2O, for instance, the probability of the statement is 1, and if it is n...
December 28, 2023 at 10:36
True. I agree that heredity is not identity. I think we've both brought up those difficulties with @"schopenhauer1", but the response has been more al...
December 27, 2023 at 23:21
Cool. So we at least agree that this is an extra-scientific, or maybe scientific-adjacent, sort of question. With respect to water there are a number ...
December 27, 2023 at 21:34
The water example doesn't work for me either. I'm going to try and explain some difficulties here. From a chemical perspective "water" is an aggregate...
December 27, 2023 at 20:35
No need -- just a possible path that I'm laying out to try to understand how I might say the same thing. Since I've already pretty much admitted to no...
December 22, 2023 at 23:04
It should be clear that this is not clear to me, at least :D -- it's the "etc." part that looks like it would make a difference. One of the things tha...
December 22, 2023 at 22:51
That's true. I'm curious what you think about natural kinds and causation @"Ludwig V" -- it seems that since continuity of a person is the real underl...
December 22, 2023 at 22:16
I should say I messed up too -- communication is always two-way, so no worries. I agree that water and humans are closer to one another than either ar...
December 22, 2023 at 17:19
Do each of these examples have to have the same criteria? The first seems to be asking after the psychological, the second a kind of everyday understa...
December 22, 2023 at 13:43
But you ought be.
December 21, 2023 at 00:19
True. That makes sense to me. Without the conventions of the internet then the dubbing wouldn't matter -- it's the communal enactment of personhood wh...
December 20, 2023 at 20:47
I agree with you. I don't believe that conception is a good time-point to choose for personhood. I'd draw a distinction between personhood, personal i...
December 20, 2023 at 14:15
I think that @"Banno" managed to split the difference here between us: Here is the individual, this individual has the name Moliere, and this individu...
December 19, 2023 at 22:52
I'd pick up the existential or phenomenological angle for identity. Somehow what's significant to us, what we care about, isn't the same as the list o...
December 19, 2023 at 16:18
Yup. I think my beliefs about DNA still pretty much rule out necessity between the particular sequence and identity, though I recognize that there are...
December 19, 2023 at 14:45
Ok, fair. Yes, I think so, and I'm wandering too much there. I'm willing to grant the premise you started with to see where it goes, though. I'm proba...
December 16, 2023 at 03:38
Or, now that I think of it -- organism. Or "unique"!
December 16, 2023 at 03:33
No I don't think so, though that might depend upon how we understand "genotype"
December 16, 2023 at 03:28
Fair. I clearly don't either. Thanks for pointing it out: now rather than just some random thought I have some questions and readings for figuring out...
December 16, 2023 at 00:45
I think about my theory of mind from time to time, but I cannot say I have a firm position staked out. I think it's one of those questions that's incr...
December 16, 2023 at 00:07
Oh I suppose if I think it through there are some good Christmas things. :D
December 15, 2023 at 23:00
These are good observations. I think you're right to bring up how we think about counter-factuals. They are kind of funny in that they can seem real-i...
December 15, 2023 at 22:36
If I, in a counter-factual, was born with blonde hair but basically lived the same life as I've lived up until now then I'd say that my personal ident...
December 15, 2023 at 22:28
Maybe our understanding of necessity differs? To my mind if you can switch a part of the code and have the same results then there is not a necessary ...
December 15, 2023 at 18:38