Excellent response. Good laying out of positions and replies -- I just finished it so nothing to substantive to say, but wanted to give kudos for a we...
I agree here -- which is why I began to think that the lecturn lectern example might be better because it gets us out of thinking about how the scienc...
:up: Rather than the object or referrent serving as a ground for meaning I rather think it's the linguistic community that's more important in determi...
I don't believe that Aristotle was falsified by Lavoisier. Falsification is a much more complicated maneuver than disagreement on fundamentals. Disagr...
Heh -- well as long as it's the reality I understand then I'm OK with that ;) I'm starting to think this is just something of a misunderstanding that ...
To put my cards on the table I don't think that's right. I wouldn't put such a hard distinction between meaning and the thing talked about, though per...
In order to talk about what is real we need to know what it is we mean by "What is real?" -- this would be before any question on essentialism. In ord...
@"Leontiskos" Then we've likely been talking past and working out and all the rest that we do here. There is a possibility that I think isn't taken se...
MacIntyre's philosophy is great, and his death is a shame to me. His notion of tradition is probably what is still the most influential on my own thin...
I began to think that I was saying something not worth saying. Fair. I am not a Rawls reader, though I've done selections from A Theory of Justice. Fr...
Another attempt after re-reading -- pick which is best to reply to, or ignore it all if it's just bad: "at most"? As if that were the lesser question?...
BOOORRRRRINNNNNNNG! :D Though I'm sympathetic here: Reason can only go so far, after all. And I don't think @"Hanover" is using the book as an excuse ...
Rawls is modern liberalism par excellence, if we take Keynes as his economic counter-part. The idea of justice includes classes of various kinds such ...
Not exactly. It might be better to use the lectern example than water example just to show what "necessity" and "essence" mean. Where is that thread w...
I agree that's intuitive. It's what I assume in my thinking about matter from the past to now. I also agree that if we had a fully worked out philosop...
I'm beginning to think this is a dialectical point. In a lot of ways I think of knowledge as the things I know are false -- don't do this, don't do th...
Whom? I agree, sir. :) He's attractive for a reason. His ideas are amazing in their explicitness for the time he expressed them in. He attempts to mov...
O goodness no. Just up front -- I think they both contributed to the field. I think they likely were talking about the same thing, as you said -- in r...
I'll accept that I'm contradicting myself in three sentences, and not in an intentional manner. At the end of the conversation I prefer to figure out ...
Yeh, all this talk is a bit furphy, to be honest. So by what you say -- the sentence believed is extensionally transparent, but the sentence about our...
The only problem I can think of is that we've only invented another epicycle, of sorts. While I think the notion that nature changes a bit outlandish,...
Oh, one more quote: I agree with that. Also I think I'd add a cribbing from the Dao, but instead with respect to philosophy: You can do anything you w...
I liked his highlighting the concept of infinity changing between Kant and Hegel, and how Kant's notion is pretty clearly inspired by the calculus. Th...
I found this quote, shortly after where you left off, hit me right. "Get out of my head!?!" type feeling: I also found his dismissal of Krug's quill o...
I think the underdetermination argument is what undermines this notion -- it's what I'd guess now, but it could be that we're reading patterns into th...
Was Water H2O before Cavendish and Lavoisier? De Dicto, no. There was no such language, so there was no such claim -- the thing, water, may have been ...
Does "are-ness" or "being" admit of degrees? I'm close to agreeing with you where you say I don't think that the relationship is "less real" -- hence ...
I liked it in sentence form :D I think that I can make sense of the notion @"Count Timothy von Icarus" says -- I'm still chewing on it. My immediate g...
I love this theory of Rock 'n Roll. Just the idea of digging down into the conceptual bits -- it's some good aesthetic reflection, which is rare to co...
No, not in the least. I don't believe in essences, so I have to pick up someone else's beliefs in essences just to make sense of the notion. If his es...
I'm using Aristotle because he's an essentialist, and his notion of essence seems to be the sort of thing essentialist have in mind -- so rather than ...
P1 is False. 2 counters the claim that water was always H2O -- in Aristotle's time, water was not H2O. Aristotle in particular stood against Democritu...
Yes, I stand corrected. Yes! Bingo! de dicto is what I mean -- There's a sense in which we can entertain the idea that matter itself changed, but I th...
The only thing that comes to mind is that I'm anti-essence. But I'm glad to see that I've said false things cuz that's what leads to new thoughts. I'm...
On the other side of things, I like to mention proton-pumps -- proton transfer is a big part of biochem, and the reason they work is cuz of quantum pr...
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