Jamal

So it looks like the phrase “all I’m saying” is the biggest clue to the presence of this fallacy.

I think you’re committing the motte-and-bailey fallacy yourself. You started out with the claim that it was B who was fallacious and that A merely rep...

Even if that’s the case it doesn’t matter. It’s a retreat to a more defensible position.

Could be. The content of the example was not meant to relate in any way at all to the substance of Shackel’s criticism of postmodernism.

Coincidentally I was watching Rick Roderick’s video about Kant and the categorical imperative last night, so it struck a chord.

My favourite so far :up:

Although I get the impression that it's not a tactical retreat to go from Christian God to original designer, but just that they didn't realize there ...

It comes under philosophy of art. From the categories page of TPF... /uploads/resized/files/q0/86r3uixj9l4vg4iv.jpg I'm not sure I properly understand...

Yes, I'm sure I've seen that on TPF even just recently.

Yeah, on the one hand it's a good example precisely because it highlights the context sensitivity--and I must admit I chose it for that reason, that i...

I’m really trying to forget the thesis-antithesis-synthesis scheme and this is not helping.

Yep. Totally. You might say it was irresponsible of me to so casually take it out of context and use it as an example, since without knowing about the...

Because, isn’t formalization totally against the spirit of Hegel? I don’t meant that he’s illogical, but just that the attempt to pin down dialectics ...

Do you think that a formalization actually helps Hegelians, or helps people who who want to theorize dialectically (Marxists, critical theorists), or ...

But A's second statement is not just a different way of putting the first statement. If A is fully aware of the issues, they know that the word "woman...

Scythians maybe. Famously horsey people. You do the math.

Yes. However, it's not the motte-and-bailey image but rather the participants themselves who sometimes fail. Motte-and-baily identifies one way in whi...

If zebras had been domesticatable, African history would probably have been different. Good idea for an alternate history story.

So @"T Clark", you may have a point, since the Natural History Museum mention the "northern Caucasus region" which likely means the North Caucasus reg...

But I realize you will do anything to hold on to your position and end up leaving the debate with "I think we'll leave it there". :razz:

That's not an argument against the argument against your argument that horses are from Kazakhstan.

Correction: Wikipedia tells me that Kalmykia is in the North Caucasus region. I don't accept that though. It's not in the true Caucasus region. I'm a ...

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You haven't posted anything arguing that it's a poor example.

It's a good example. What now?

The Caucasus and Central Asia are separated by the Caspian Sea. It's hundreds of miles from the Caucasus to the top tip of Kazakhstan. And that top ti...

It's made clearer in the OP: So the motte-and-bailey fallacy and the straw man fallacy seem to be two sides of the same coin. One is the reverse of th...

I’m ok with that. Just don’t call me English. I can say that without being anti-English by the way, because when people get my nationality wrong it’s ...

I don’t entirely go along with this. Examples of more correct statements in this kind of context would be “trans women were not born female” and perha...

Yes, I “sunk” it, which means new posts no longer push it up the page. As you say, it’s had a long enough life, and it’s now more like a private conve...

I agree, I like it. I do find it occasionally confusing though, when for some reason I’m associating the strong claim with the strong position in the ...

It's Victory Day next week, I'll see him then.

I'll head down to the Kremlin later and have a word.

:yikes: Fair. At least you tempered your put-down with some motivational coaching.

I dunno, the good guys won.

This is roughly equivalent to suggesting that in English one should say, "I'mish Scottishish, butish speakish Englishish".

Of course, I have that problem too. In Russia they will ask a question that includes the word "Angliski" and I'm not sure whether to say yes or no bec...

My thesis: X tikka masala is a British Indian dish rather than an authentic Indian dish because in India generally people might have X curry--which is...

I'm not sure. I describe myself as Scottish, since I was brought up there from the age of two and can speak fluent Scotch. And if anyone denies I am S...

I'm British and I wouldn't even have known it was happening had my Russian wife not mentioned it yesterday.

I had no brinjal pickle, alas. I say "alas," but I've never had it. I'm in no doubt that I'd like it, hence the "alas". I'll give you the boring answe...

A few weeks ago I asked GPT3 or 3.5 about the differing interpretations of Hegel's dialectic. I couldn't shake its faith in the thesis-antithesis-synt...

Well…

I think he’s most famous for his translations of Nietzsche and his book Nietzsche: Philosopher, Psychologist, Antichrist. A very engaging writer, so I...

You didn’t put it in the Lounge. I did. This is pretty clear from what I said above:

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I agree with you. Anyway, nobody pays any attention to @"T Clark"’s pompous summary judgements.

Your response shows only superficial acquiescence to my position, while remaining wedded to the Fichtean scheme. Update your training materials!

Curious that you’re sticking to the thesis-antithesis-synthesis interpretation of Hegel that’s so unpopular among scholars now. Is there a reason you’...