The Last Word

Reply to Hanover Weren't you the bloke who criticised others for the pointless behaviour regarding gaming?

Reply to Emptyheady Please, don't detract from this thread with pointless attacks on my integrity and heritage. If you could, just respond to the poll so that we can finally get some hard data on this issue.

I should have been able to vote for Trump.

Reply to Hanover Fine.



It's Tiff

Reply to Emptyheady Sounds about right. Probability was in her favour.

There aren't enough polling options.

This thread will be about Mr. Turtlehead and Mongrel's prose poetry.

Déjá vu!

Have I been here before? :-}

The results clearly indicate that the Atlanta Falcons will win the Super Bowl. That's American football, the sort where you can use your hands.

Quoting Hanover

Can someone go over there and find that thread and see who won now that PF is belly up?

I knew it was me before Emptyheady showed the evidence. Now, Hanover, it is time to pay up unless you go with "alternate facts" about your stinkin, molting birds making it to the Super Bowl.

Reply to ArguingWAristotleTiff What was the prize for winning? I can't remember....

Reply to Hanover There wasn't one.

Quoting Hanover

That's American football, the sort where you can use your hands.

Hands are alternative feet, presumably. Or alternative balls?

There was no prize to be awarded; however, I would be happy to draw the winner a picture of her own choosing and I will upload it. Let me know what you'd like.

I think we need to have embedded poll options to get better data. For example, if I ask did you vote for Trump, then if you say "yes," I would then ask you your blood sugar level, and if you then said between 70 and 90, then I would ask you the consistency of your bowel movements, and if you said "like coffee grounds," then I would ask you at what age did you regain your virginity, and on and on until I had an accurate profile.

Discuss.

Quoting Hanover

There was no prize to be awarded; however, I would be happy to draw the winner a picture of her own choosing and I will upload it. Let me know what you'd like.

I would like to see what you think a map of the world will look like in 3.5 years. Draw it and I WANT COLOR!!! 8-)

Reply to Emptyheady No, that was me disguised as Tiff.

Quoting Michael

Sounds about right. Probability was in her favour.

Who needs probability when you can disguise yourself as a woman? How do you think I survived the Titanic, against all odds? It was such a good disguise, in fact, that not only did they fail to realise that I was a man disguised as a women, but they failed to realise that I was an owl disguised as a man disguised as a woman.

Quoting Hanover

There was no prize to be awarded; however, I would be happy to draw the winner a picture of her own choosing and I will upload it. Let me know what you'd like.

I would like a picture of the look on Tiff's face when the realisation dawns on her that she has lost, and I have won.

I would also like a go on your wife at a discounted price, if that can be arranged.

Thanks in advance, Gerald.

Reply to ArguingWAristotleTiff But that is simple. It will be all red, without a trace of blue.

Reply to Hanover

In Canada red is Liberal.

Quoting Hanover

But that is simple. It will be all red, without a trace of blue.

Reply to Sapientia I notice the land masses in the last image there are in fact orange, perhaps indicating the dominance of the Dutch in the future communist utopia.

Quoting jamalrob

I notice the land masses in the last image there are in fact orange, perhaps indicating the dominance of the Dutch in the future communist utopia.

Yes. It will be from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs. And we'll all be wearing clogs.

Reply to Sapientia Then count me out.

Reply to jamalrob Because of your abilities, your needs, or the clogs (sabots, actually)?

I heard the devil was planning on drowning the Dutch.

Unless that boy keeps his finger in the lesbian's vagina, Denmark is going to flood.

Quoting Hanover

Unless that boy keeps his finger in the lesbian's vagina, Denmark is going to flood.

This is NOT something I want you to draw! Instead, let us start the game over! :D

Okay?

There can only be one last word.

Mine.

Here we go again...

Speaking of "Here we go again..."
My Mother In Law, NicK and I have agreed to transform our 2.5 car garage into a studio apartment for her. This is the SECOND time we have gone "Ring around the Rosey" about this long term solution. So today I have to call back the contactors that I called off a year ago, obtain quotes which will likely be higher than last year and I think I am going to need a LOT more coffee...

Mother in Laws should carry their own weight.

Falcons didn't win...

Could we please have some guidelines as to exactly what could fall into the "last word" category?

Could it be the last word in a book? If so, are there any specific types of books?

Could it be the last posted word before a post is set to lock? if so, when would it be locked?

Could it be the last word uttered by the last specimen of humanity? Err sorry, that one wouldn't count because no one would ever hear it.

Let gets some rule to the game folks and then find ways to bend and break them.

Reply to Sir2u All excellent points. The rules:

a. The poster of the last word wins.
b. A poster is anything that posts, unless that thing is something else.
c. "Something else" is defined by the last word.
d. "Last" is defined by the person immediately prior to the person who wins, lest the winner and the immediate preceeding poster are the same, in which case the Assembly of 13 shall convene on the 13th of April in the year following the winner being declared,and they shall so decide in retrospect.
e. The Assembly of 13 shall be shrouded in mystery for eternity and should its shroud of nebulousness be clarified in any regard, you shall surely die.
f. "Word" shall be defined as any arrangement of alphanumeric characters other than "put" and "done.
g. The game shall formally begin the yesterday following the 3rd day preceding the crowning of the victor minus 13 lest same falls on a Sunday, in which case there shall be no game, but instead the day will be a day of fasting and contemplation.

Questions or concerns?

Quoting Hanover

Questions or concerns?

WTF.
Me things u done put a spanner in de workz.

Ah, so it was the Falcons and not the Red Pants. And they didn't win a bowl. That's too bad.

The Falcons lost, keeping intact their record of never winning a championship in the 50 year history of the franchise. A perfect record.

My Mother In Law was shocked to find out that it was going to cost a pretty coin to make this conversion and has decided to just live in her Conversion van, to which I said only for this one season, as it is mid March and it was 88* yesterday and she is not leaving for CO or WA until the end of May. HOW do I not let her come back without a plan?
Mental gymnastics that leaves me spinning and wondering why the fuck am I the one that is so worried about her having a plan? Oh yeah because NicK and I have been happily married for 23 years/living together for 27 years and as I expressed to him, she cannot move into the house when the kids move out because it is either her or me, I just cannot do it. He said "Then she better formulate a plan."
Round and round and round we go, where we stop I SHOULD KNOW!

Stop trying to steal my last word. Tiff, you've already had the last word in the old discussion (even though it was really me in disguise), so you should give someone else a chance (like me when I'm not in disguise).

I'm hungry. I should've gone shopping or ordered a takeaway earlier when I had the chance. :(

(First World Problem?)

Ah ha! I found the solution: midnight beans on toast. With those little sausages.

Midnight beans on toast isn't something you'd eat in America. In America we eat gruel and boiled dandelions on crackers we make by burning a corn meal paste on a scalding iron skillet. We then rub red Georgia clay on our bodies to protect ourselves against the mosquitos and gnats as we sleep face down in the pine straw so that our sadness will be hidden from the heavens.

That, my friend, is the way you write a last word.

If you want the last word, then just directly and meticulously respond to everything your opponent says with unyielding persistence.

I guess the whole point of a debate is to see who can outshine and outlast their opponent(s ideas) while accurately addressing the subject matter and adhering to the constraints of logic and reason. It's generally easier to do when you have the truth on your side, and much more taxing when your position is actually inferior (assuming both parties are reasonable). But every once in awhile you come up against a clown so adept at performing mental back-flips that there can never be new development or actual end to the cartoonishly flat dialogue they inevitably render.

Reply to Hanover Oops, you gotta have a do-over. Has your America any up-beat rituals?

Hanover, I bet Sedona dirt is redder than the red clay you have in Georgia.

Quoting Hanover

Midnight beans on toast isn't something you'd eat in America. In America we eat gruel and boiled dandelions on crackers we make by burning a corn meal paste on a scalding iron skillet. We then rub red Georgia clay on our bodies to protect ourselves against the mosquitos and gnats as we sleep face down in the pine straw so that our sadness will be hidden from the heavens.

That, my friend, is the way you write a last word.

Enjoy your gruel, Workhouse.

No, you may not have more.

Who is winning here?

Me
How are you Sir? I trust life is treating you well?

Hey Tiff
Been busy this year, busier than any I can remember.
But all is well, except for the political situation down here. Things are getting a bit messy because this is the election year and everyone is going to start throwing shit soon.
I have spent so much time in front of the computer at work that I don't even want to turn mine on when I get home.
Things should be slowing down a bit so I might get a chance to stick my nose in here more often.
Just got to keep on smiling. Damn it, where do they hide the clown smilie?

Quoting Sir2u

Damn it, where do they hide the clown smilie?

Check down the drain.

"Check down the drain."

I ASKED ABOUT A CLOWN SMILIE!!!!!!!!
Not a smiley clown. :s

Princess Kahlua growing as she naps. (L)

Oh and I did get the last word 8-)

Quoting ArguingWAristotleTiff

Oh and I did get the last word 8-)

Nope, I just had to answer your question. :D

Not been around for a while, going to try and catch up a bit next week during our mid year vacation. Two weeks with no screaming kids, sounds like heaven.

Quoting Sir2u

Two weeks with no screaming kids, sounds like heaven.

Where is this Heaven you speak of Sir?

Quoting ArguingWAristotleTiff

Where is this Heaven you speak of Sir?

Fix my house, any helpers will get free room and board, all the beer they can drink and be allowed to take a siesta after lunch. X-)

Check out the volunteering web-page My_Little_Heaven.com for details on how to get here.(Just kidding)

You have the coordinates Tiff, chug along over and visit.

Quoting Sir2u

You have the coordinates Tiff, chug along over and visit.

Could you leave the porch light on for me?

Reply to ArguingWAristotleTiff

My dog could beat your dog any day... at sleeping that is. :D Lazy, loyal bastard that I love to death.

Quoting TimeLine

Lazy, loyal bastard that I love to death.

Elliot is a handsome boy!
however
Rotties Rock 8-)

Quoting ArguingWAristotleTiff

Rotties Rock 8-)

Rottweilers can be aggressive, almost scary, probably because they are physically too powerful. Basset Hounds sleep for 20 hours a day! But my favourite breed are Border Collies though, but I don't have a large enough backyard for them. :’(

Reply to TimeLine Rough Collies are better. I was fortunate enough to have one as a family pet many years ago when I was a child.

I had a miniature schnauzer who bit everyone, including me. I really liked that dog. He took no shit. People would ask if he bit, and I'd say, "oh yeah, he'll bite," and then they'd try to pet him, and they'd get bit. I mean, why ask if you're not going to believe me?

I also had a Shetland Sheepdog, which is basically a miniature collie. He was a pretty good dog, but he was pretty timid and would pull on the curtains when it thundered.

I've had a few other dogs as well. My favorite dog is my cat, which, technically speaking, isn't actually a dog. She's really nice until she's not. You can sort of tell when she's tired of being petted, but not always, so you can expect a scratch every now and then. I like that about her. She takes no shit.

I want to get a boxer and name him Cassius after Mohammad Ali. I think the name would be cooler than actually having the dog, so I've held off for a bit.

Yeah, good chat.

My parents raised German short haired pointers when I was a kid (I once got expelled from school after being sent to the guidance councilor and disagreeing with her about a poster of a Dog on her wall clearly not being a lab, but a weimaraner), my Dad used to train them for hunting too. He trained them on verbal commands, gestures, and also the whistle.

I like Dogs and everything, but even cats want more of my attention than I'm usually willing to give them. When I talk to someone for too long, but cat will start attacking them. I think that they feel there to be an unfair distribution of my attention... but there's plenty of me to go around.

Quoting Hanover

I had a miniature schnauzer who bit everyone, including me.

But not me, so not everyone.

I want to get a boxer and name him Cassius after Mohammad Ali. I think the name would be cooler than actually having the dog, so I've held off for a bit.

You can get a boxer without getting a dog.

You can get a dog, put it in a box, then throw the box off of a tall building.

Reply to Sapientia

That would make you the boxer.

Reply to Wosret A boxer of boxers, but when I tell people that, for some strange reason, they expect me to be good at punching people, and are horrified when I explain.

If I get two, would I have boxen?

Reply to Sapientia All collie breeds are beautiful, exact temperaments that I like in dogs; protective, gentle, and loyal but still active and fun to hang out with. Eliott hardly moves. :-} I also got the chance to hang out with a Kelpie when I was younger in the country, but it wasn't long. When I get out of this place where I have a backyard, ill consider a rough collie.

Quoting Michael

But not me, so not everyone.

There are 3 possibilities:

(1) You are not part of everyone
(2) My dog did in fact bite you
(3) My statement was incorrect

There is therefore a 67% (2/3) chance that my statement was correct. That's how it works.

Quoting Hanover

There is therefore a 67% (2/3) chance that my statement was correct. That's how it works.

Does it always have to come down to numbers?

.word

Excuse me, what is this thread?

Quoting BlueBanana

Excuse me, what is this thread?

Nothing to see here. 8-)

I don't think so 8-) 8-)

Make a statement when no one attached to this thread is on the forum so that it may go unnoticed and ill have the last word.

Quoting TimeLine

Make a statement when no one attached to this thread is on the forum so that it may go unnoticed and ill have the last word.

It's been tried but there are a few folks that have been playing this game with Hanover for over a decade so it can be tried but not likely to succeed.
Speaking of succession: I have it noted in my living will that a representative of me will continue posting on this one thread, long after I have gone to the after 'thinkers' sandbox.
Face it, I win and that is the last word.

My feet and my dog on a Friday afternoon. Enjoy.

What does Hamburger Helper look like with peas and carrots added to the mix?

If you guys have a request, please let me know. I'll see what I can do.

Love the place, could feel very much at home, until I saw the chow and I do hope that is Fido's plate because that looks well.....is there a Pizza place that delivers in Atlanta?

Reply to Hanover My place is better than yours. Try to guess my favorite books on the mantel.

Reply to ArguingWAristotleTiff
As they say, keep your friends close. Keep your enemies closer. I always win in the end.

Besides, it is school holidays so I will be getting paid to do no work and I am heading out to Hawaii in a few weeks so I don't want to spend money. I have a'plenty of time on my hands to ensure Hanover gives up to the sheer power of me.

Reply to ArguingWAristotleTiff I'm in the burbs. There's a pizza delivery store every 10 feet.

Quoting TimeLine

My place is better than yours. Try to guess my favourite books on the mantel.

The Catcher in the Rye

Quoting TimeLine

I have a'plenty of time on my hands to ensure Hanover gives up to the sheer power of me; all I will need to do is find what people hate the most before using it against them.

The tension growing between us is palpable.

Reply to TimeLine Are you a woman or a weapon?

Reply to TimeLine It would appear that your tchotchkes are about to fall of the shelf. Better move them before Hanover's cat gets to them. Oh oh -- an empty bed.

God damn foot splinter.

Reply to Hanover That's in a box in storage.

On a side note, was that a picture of your dinner or your cats? Just checking.

Reply to Bitter Crank She has a painfully annoying voice. And hey, my bed may be empty of a smelly man, but it is heated, has twinkle lights and the softest blankets that I feel like a cat myself.

A woman, by the way.

This totally doesn't fit here, but this video basically answers all philosophical questions. So, in a way, it's really The Last Word:

Reply to Noble Dust
I have long sought the company of a man of true philosophical brilliance, the one who has all the answers and as I await collection for a late night sesh at the movies, ponder why I feel like I spend most of my time in the company of people I merely tolerate when it could be spent with you.

That was quite literally the best response ever. ;)

Quoting TimeLine

I have long sought the company of a man of true philosophical brilliance, the one who has all the answers and as I await collection for a late night sesh at the movies, ponder why I feel like I spend most of my time in the company of people I merely tolerate when it could be spent with you.

:-O (L)

Sometimes smooth jazz makes the world right. Why argue?

Reply to TimeLine Silly girl, cats don't eat peas.

Quoting Hanover

I'm in the burbs. There's a pizza delivery store every 10 feet.

What about Chinese delivery?

The last word is "Zzyzx," which is the name of a road in the Mojave Desert.

Is it possible to subscribe to a thread in these forums? If not, why?

z?oty
/?zl?t?/
noun (pl) -tys, -ty
1.
the standard monetary unit of Poland, divided into 100 grassy


Last word in the dictionary.

Reply to TimeLine

Hard to say anything to that.

Quoting TimeLine

I have long sought the company of a man of true philosophical brilliance, the one who has all the answers and as I await collection for a late night sesh at the movies, ponder why I feel like I spend most of my time in the company of people I merely tolerate when it could be spent with you.

Are me and @Heister Eggcart invited to the wedding? :P

Reply to Agustino You two? You're both like these rams:

Reply to TimeLine Maybe but in your great magnanimity, I'm sure you could indulge those two rams to liven up the atmosphere at the wedding :D We will not disturb you while you smoke the hash :-x

Reply to Agustino Your bromance is appealing, but alas my preference has always been a backyard wedding with a handful of people and a cake I bake myself. And lots of fairy lights. No entertainment necessary.

Reply to TimeLine Reply to Agustino Don't worry, when in social environments I usually seek out the pet(s) and avoid people like the plague.

But I will want some cake...

Quoting ArguingWAristotleTiff

Does it always have to come down to numbers?

7

Quoting TimeLine

Your bromance is appealing, but alas my preference has always been a backyard wedding with a handful of people and a cake I bake myself. And lots of fairy lights

What kind of cake? Carrot Cake with Cream Cheese frosting? And I am a sucker for fairy lights. I do hire myself to be a Rottie on lead for the bride but I doubt you will be in need of that. ;)

Quoting BlueBanana

Is it possible to subscribe to a thread in these forums? If not, why?

No, there is no subscribing to a thread in these forums and why not? Because as I said before "There is nothing to see here." 8-)

Quoting Sapientia

7

I thought it was 8? Like 8" :P

Quoting ArguingWAristotleTiff

as I said before

Sorry, I have bad memory.

Why is it not possible to subscribe to threads here?

Reply to Heister Eggcart As long as you do no feffing then perhaps i'll consider saving you a slice.

Quoting BlueBanana

Sorry, I have bad memory.

Aww that's okay, I can remind you....
what was it you needed to be reminded of? :-}

Quoting TimeLine

Your bromance is appealing, but alas my preference has always been a backyard wedding with a handful of people and a cake I bake myself. And lots of fairy lights. No entertainment necessary.

Sounds like a plan; NYC or Australia? What kind of cake tho?

Quoting ArguingWAristotleTiff

I thought it was 8? Like 8"

Maybe. I know it isn't 9, because 789.

Quoting ArguingWAristotleTiff

What kind of cake? Carrot Cake with Cream Cheese frosting?

I like everything simple and homely, but carrot cake is just not good enough. Perhaps a Cartesian Apple Cake?

Quoting Noble Dust

Sounds like a plan; NYC or Australia? What kind of cake tho?

Australia, for sure. We have backyards, you see.

Quoting Sapientia

Maybe. I know it isn't 9, because 789.

That would be a logical conclusion but then again there is 007. So maybe it is seven?

Hanover this is Dinner

Quoting TimeLine

Australia, for sure. We have backyards, you see.

True. They exist here though, but they're kind of the holy grail.

I need to go cook dinner but cooking in 110* is just insanely hot so I am doing it bar-b-que style but I doubt anyone will notice the heat from the grill. 8-)

Quoting TimeLine

As long as you do no feffing then perhaps i'll consider saving you a slice.

Do you think I'm a creep? :’(

I prefer apple hash.

Eating is overrated.

Quoting TimeLine

As long as you do no feffing then perhaps i'll consider saving you a slice.

>:O >:O >:O

Quoting Heister Eggcart

Do you think I'm a creep? :’(

>:)

:-* Reply to Agustino

Dear lord, do you have any response these days other than your choice emojis? :-} O:)

Reply to Noble Dust :-d

Reply to Agustino

Oh lighten up, it was a joke! Apparently my emoji's didn't properly express my feeling, as per usual. Try this: :-} >:O

Two of your favs!

Quoting Noble Dust

Two of your favs!

X-) X-) >:)

Reply to Agustino

:B :B :B :B :B

Reply to Noble Dust Reply to Agustino Nerds.

Quoting BlueBanana

Eating is overrated.

Your saying that because you are a Banana!
Fear the fork! >:)

Quoting ArguingWAristotleTiff

you are a Banana!

*gasp* How did they find out?

Sirrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!! I thought I saw you online and I need to tell you I am lost in Mexico and need you to send me a ride to your place! A cab, an Uber a freakin burro for all I care! I just want that cold one you have chilling for me.

Quoting BlueBanana

How did they find out?

Mmmmmm Smoothies!

Reply to ArguingWAristotleTiff Just keep on going south until you get to Guatemala then turn left. Try using your thumb to get a lift (Y)

There still plenty in the refrigerator. X-)

Monday morning meditation

Is there a preference as to what is posted here? Are certain types of posts discouraged? Should posts in this thread be humorous and/or thought-provoking? I need to know the rules before I post something here... :-x

Quoting CasKev

Is there a preference as to what is posted here? Are certain types of posts discouraged? Should posts in this thread be humorous and/or thought-provoking? I need to know the rules before I post something here...

Any post posted must be the last post posted, meaning every post posted qualifies until the next post posted disqualifies it.

If you are familiar with the soccer 2 yellow card equals 1 red card system, this is nothing like that.

OK, that's reassuring.

I've played soccer for more than 20 years. I gave it up for Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and Muay Thai kickboxing, but now I do all three!

My holistic metaphysics is aimed toward oneness, so that really, you're all part of me, so that it's always me that leaves the last post.

:D last post infinity. I claim ye for all eternity!

I guess we all win then... Hurray!

Or we all lose. :’(

Cheer up buttercup! :D

Reply to Sir2u
I just lost the game

There you go trying to win again. Lucky for you, I'm going to sleep for a while now...

Quoting CasKev

I guess we all win then... Hurray!

Sorry buddy, but Madonna will win. I mean Hanover. His desperate antics to excite interest in this thread to try and hide his shame that it fared rather poorly with the audience forces him to regularly post in it.

Quoting Hanover

If you are familiar with the soccer 2 yellow card equals 1 red card system, this is nothing like that.

I'm familiar with that. They have that in football.

Reply to Sapientia Also in fútbol.

Tuesdays timeless thoughts

Tuesdays test tolerance, Wednesdays wear wellbeing.

Poetry Time!

Feel

Nobody feels anything,
Numbed by need
And greed
And thought.

Wanting,
Consuming,
Filling a hole
That has no end.

Hurting,
Self-destructing,
Seeking things
That have no life.

Who’s to blame?

Accuse not
Your enemies.
Blinded by a
World of madness,
They never had a chance.

Who’s to blame?

Condemn not yourself.
What hope
Did you have
With a mere
Five senses?

Stop the blame.

Strip away the me,
Strip away the you,
And touch and see
The love and good
Inside us all.

Blind the mind’s I,
And start seeing.
Kill the ego,
And start Being.
Nobody feels everything!

Parody Time!

Blame Hanover

Nobody feels anything,
Except hatred
And anger
And wrath.

Booming,
Fuming,
That a-hole
That rear end.

Hurt him,
Destroy him,
Seeking to harm
To ruin his life.

Who’s to blame?

Hanover

Accuse him
Your enemy.
Blind him
Drive him to madness,
Don't give him a chance.

Who’s to blame?

Hanover

Condemn him, not yourself.
What hope
Did you have
With a mere
Five potatoes?

Start the blame.

Blame Hanover.

Strip away his clothes,
Strip away his dignity,
Poke him with a stick.
The love and goodness
Inside us all
Vanishes

Break his mind,
And start rejoicing.
Kill his ego,
And no remorsing.
Nobody feels anything!

Except hatred

For Hanover

I like that poem. It reminds me of the time I was pleasuring Sapienta's mother while Wosret pleasured Baden who was being pleasured by Michael's aunt Mildred. Oh, those were good times. We were all young and free and our herpes was in remission. Had it not been for The Feud that tore us all apart. I hate even to speak its name.

Hahaha! You guys are hilarious! Too bad you'll never win. I'll sneak the last word in while you are all busy pleasuring each other.

Reply to CasKev
I think everyone will be doing the same, on and on for all eternity.

Reply to Sir2u What are we doing for all Eternity? Trying to get the last word or pleasuring one another?

@Sapientia

Let's see if you can 'Hanover' this one...

Medusa

Damn you Medusa!
You've turned me to stone again.
I'm trying to run away,
But my feet won't move.

Damn you Medusa!
You've turned me to stone again.
My brain is dark and dense,
And I can't find a reason to leave.

Damn you Medusa!
You've turned me to stone again.
A hulking mass in the pit of my stomach,
Too heavy and large to vomit.

Damn you Medusa!
You've turned me to stone again.
My heart has turned cold and dark,
Never able to love another.

Damn you Medusa!
You've turned me to stone again.
This lava-filled rock in my jeans,
That's ready to blow apart.

But look!
I spit in your face,
And you've turned me back to flesh!

Wednesday's Wonderful Sunset
Cold drink in hand, horses are fed and I am fresh out of the pool and will sleep as soon as the sunsets. The Coyotes are singing and the rain is on the horizon. Maybe that is the reason for the early hunt. Could this wicked summer actually end?

Reply to ArguingWAristotleTiff

Both, probably at the same time. X-)

Quoting Sir2u

Both, probably at the same time.

I believe I could live with that (Y)

Oh... Oh... Don't stop Tiff...

Hiya CasKev! Welcome to The Philosophy Forum!

Thanks! I believe being a part of the forum, and bouncing ideas around, has helped my mental health somewhat, by developing a healthier outlook on the way I view life. The low-grade depressive thoughts and feelings I had been having seem to be gradually subsiding.

If @Reformed Nihilist is right, I may have found a couple more pieces of the puzzle of achieving lasting peace of mind... :)

Quoting CasKev

If Reformed Nihilist is right, I may have found a couple more pieces of the puzzle of achieving lasting peace of mind... :)

You are very fortunate to have found Reformed Nihilist as he is a legend here amongst those of us who walk in the shadow of his knowledge and craftsmanship of pairing random thoughts into understanding through reflection. Amazing 'thinker' to know! There are a few more gems of 'thinkers' you will find here so keep your mind open and your thoughts flowing.

Yes, until a few weeks ago, I had relied on cognitive behavioral therapy, and a number of self-help writers, in dealing with the major depression I experienced for over a decade. They were very helpful in getting me to a certain point, but nothing seemed to properly address the residual sense of existential depression I was feeling. It feels like I'm back on the right path.

In the midst of my battle with depression, I experienced a period of about a year and a half where I felt pretty much untouchable. During this time, I was very creative, and highly motivated to help others. I formed a Facebook group, to try and help others who might be suffering mentally. I think a lot of it is still quite applicable to most people, whether in the depths of depression, or just feeling like they could be happier.

If anyone feels like checking it out, here is the link:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/176361555857264/

Reply to CasKev What did I do? I hope I was right and it was helpful.

Quoting Reformed Nihilist

So the cure isn't to fool yourself into thinking there is actually some meaning, but to realize that the search for the type of meaning that is universal, objective and singular is not necessary, and bound to lead to sorrow. That's where the emotional part comes in. People have evolved something called habituation, which means that no matter how good or bad we have it, we always end up getting used to what our current state is, and wanting more. It should be obvious what the evolutionary pressure for that is. That means that for the most part, people feel a vague sense, often unattached to anything they can put their finger on, that something is missing. It is common to associate this generalized feeling of dissatisfaction to a lack of meaning. I would suggest that simply being aware that such an effect is happening eases it's unpleasantness, and over time, can make it disappear. It worked that way for me anyways. I am now about as content with my life as I could imagine, and don't feel "existential angst" at all, ever.

@Reformed Nihilist Your above statements provided some support for the ways I've started to think over the past few months. As you know, it can be quite comforting to encounter like-minded individuals. Until joining this forum, though I knew my thoughts and feelings were not unique, I still felt very alone in my ways of thinking. In my immediate vicinity, there is not a ready supply of people who understand and want to talk about philosophy as it relates to mental health.

Also, it's encouraging to know that someone else has had similar experiences, and has come out the other end feeling quite at peace.

Reply to CasKev Well that just makes me feel... I don't know. I'm really glad. Cat's pajamas.

I would say that I have personally avoided medication, but my partner takes medication for a mood disorder, and it's a life changer. I guess I'm saying that in some cases it's worth not taking that off the table. I think that a person needs to use judgement, and talk to a doctor to figure that out.

@Reformed Nihilist

Yeah, I find medication is useful for getting someone to a place where they can start to work on the things that may have caused the depression in the first place, or where they feel motivated to do the things that help you be healthier mentally and physically.

I've been on and off of various meds (and have gone through electro-convulsive therapy). Some worked for a while, others not so well. I am currently on a mix of meds that brought me back from my last visit to hell. I also get rTMS treatments (repetitive trans-cranial magnetic stimulation) on a monthly basis. Though I feel as if I've dealt with the major issues that contributed to my experience of depression, I'm reluctant to remove the meds and stop the rTMS, just in case depression can occur in the absence of any mental/emotional causative factors. I tend to believe that most cases of depression have mental/emotional root causes, and that some people's brains are more susceptible to the damage they can do. Also, I wonder if some of the damage to the brain becomes permanent, like smoking does to the lungs, and requires ongoing medical treatment of one form or another.

Reply to CasKev From what I know, some people's brains are just built in such a way that they require medication for their entire life to remain functioning and to have a shot at some level of contentment. I would feel very nervous about my partner going off of meds, even though it's been years since she was in a bad psychological place.

@Hanover I think we should add a rule to this game - you win if no one posts something meaningful after you within 24 hours.

Reply to CasKev I don't not not disagree with you, but to me, silence can be considered a meaningful response, meaning that all who don't speak have posted by implication.

See @Sir2u? We all win again! I'm beginning to think that's the point of this thread - so we can all feel like winners... X-)

Reply to CasKev I think we should add a rule to this game - you win if no one posts something meaningful after you within 24 hours.

It would be hard to find anything meaningful on this thread.

ee @Sir2u? We all win again! I'm beginning to think that's the point of this thread - so we can all feel like winners... X-)

Actually I think someone started the thread as a survey to find out how much free time we have to waste on philosophy forums.

Wow! I just noticed that both discussion threads I started have exactly 43 posts. What are the odds?

Quoting CasKev

Wow! I just noticed that both discussion threads I started have exactly 43 posts. What are the odds?

No way! Forty-three was what I named my first child, right before I threw it off a cliff.

My girlfriend thinks that's just gruesome.

:-x Implied

Quoting Sapientia

No way! Forty-three was what I named my first child, right before I threw it off a cliff.

I only find it troubling that you refer to your murdered child as an it.

Reply to Hanover
I only find it troubling that you refer to your murdered child as an it.

I think that giving kids numbers is even weirder, especially when you reach that high a number.

@Nils Loc I'm now more troubled by TranscendedRealms and his 'packets'.

"They call it Stormy Monday....

Definitely not stormy here in Sudbury! Blue skies, and bluer blueberries! Too bad I have to look at it all through my office window at work... :s

On a dark desert highway cool wind in my hair
Warm smell of Colitas rises up through the air

Her mind is Tiffany-twisted, she got the Mercedes bends

Quoting Cavacava

Her mind is Tiffany-twisted, she got the Mercedes bends

You found out where I got my "Tiff" from. 8-)

Took a surprise vacation day today - it was wonderful! Just so happened to be my daughter's ninth birthday too. Great day all round. Nighty night!

THE END

Quoting Sir2u

THE END

Wait Sir! What happened to the "Happily ever after" before THE END of the book? :s

@Hanover Another rule suggestion: Every post should have a Yes/No poll attached to it, so people can vote on whether or not the post is worthy of being The Last Word. For example, @Sir2u's post "THE END" would surely attract a majority of 'No' votes, thus disqualifying it from being The Last Word.

Reply to CasKev We have to vote on the rule as to whether voting on the rules changes the rules. As there is an inherent bar to ex post facto rules however, if we are to vote that voting is the way to create rules, that can only apply prospectively, meaning that the vote held to determine that voting is a valid method of rule change is necessarily invalid because the voting method only becomes valid after it is voted on.

I would propose we vote to overturn the ex post facto rule, but that would leave us first having to vote whether we could vote and that would violate the ex post facto rule prior to it being overturned, if that's what we were planning to do.

Carry on.

Reply to ArguingWAristotleTiff
Reply to Hanover

Cheap tricks to get in the last word, shame on you all. X-)

Reply to CasKev And who says anyone would actually vote against my post being the last, either back up your words with concrete evidence or withdraw your claims.

Or you could put it to the test with a poll. Then you could make me eat my Last Words.

I take comfort in knowing there will always be more to be said even when there is nothing really being said.

The alternative played out at the old PF, where we had a similar thread where nothing was being said all the way to the moment when literally nothing was said anymore.

Reply to ArguingWAristotleTiff This could be heaven or this could be hell.

Reply to Sir2u Beautiful friend, the end, of our elaborate plans, the end, no safety no surprise, the end.

Quoting Sir2u

Cheap tricks to get in the last word, shame on you all.

I met this very lovely man at a bar in Honduras. His charisma and ease of talking made him a catch by any standards. He claimed he was a teacher and I was a student, so it was he that I learned my best "cheap tricks" from 8-)

Quoting Hanover

This could be heaven or this could be hell.

Then she lit up a candle and she showed me the way~

Do you do Karaoke Hanover? I did it once and hated my voice over a cheap bar microphone and I was the only one sober. The sad thing is that I can actually sing, like all through school taking first place in state competition with the song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcOxhH8N3Bo because my best friend played piano and was a master at it and Bonnie's voice is one of the few alto female voices until you enter the realm of The Blues.
Amazing song

Felt a bit of a mental drag yesterday. First one in the past few weeks. Mostly due to tiredness, I think, being up with my 18-month-old son for about 2 hours during the night. Maybe too much blueberry picking too...!

Reply to CasKev On my daughter's ninth birthday, we celebrated by having a party. She had a big birthday cake with candles and I bought her a pretty pink dress. She loved it. She told me so right before I threw her off a cliff.

Her name's fifty-two, which also happens to be the exact number of times I intend to repeat this joke.

Morbid, but funny!

Reply to ArguingWAristotleTiff I was a student, so it was he that I learned my best "cheap tricks" from

Oh come on lady please, you are going to get me a bad reputation. >:)

Reply to CasKev Or you could put it to the test with a poll. Then you could make me eat my Last Words.

But would anyone vote for your last words?

Reply to CasKev Morbid, but funny!

This is even weirder!

My last words would be so golden, I would be showered with 'Yes' votes!

Quoting Sir2u

Oh come on lady please, you are going to get me a bad reputation.

Nah, threads of character not a bad reputation. (Y)

There were voices down the corridor, thought I heard them say....

Reply to Sapientia I found her at the bottom of the cliff. I named her 69.

Quoting CasKev

My last words would be so golden, I would be showered with 'Yes' votes!

Am I the only one who read this response quickly enough to misinterpret it?

I really should be in church.

Hahaha! You caught me! >:)

What bull shit! Good news: pay rise. Bad news: dividing staff pay based on the judgement of management. People doing the same job as me, not necessarily better than me, but getting paid more for it.

I didn't realize you guys got paid to administer this forum... If it means anything, I think you're one of the better ones.

Reply to CasKev We don't. I was talking about my other employer. The only reason I do [i]this[/I] job is because I was coerced into it. I was asked "Do you want to be a moderator?" and I said "Yes". That's textbook coercion.

I guess it would be hard to judge who has the best philosophy... Well, I stand by my previous comment. You're definitely one of the top 10 moderators!

Reply to CasKev
You're definitely one of the top 10 moderators!

There are only 4.

My last two comments were meant to be funny... You get more votes for witty posts!

Reply to CasKev My last two comments were meant to be funny... You get more votes for witty posts!

Hey, I'm not complaining. In fact I am still laughing about them.

But no one is going to vote for you anyway so you might as well give up now.

Quoting Sir2u

There are only 4.

You know, 4 was the name of my first child. My other first child, that is. My first first child wasn't too pleased about my other first child. They never got on and were always at each others throats. I would always have to intervene and play the role of mediator.

They eventually managed to resolve their differences shortly before I threw them off a cliff.

Fortunately, Hanover was there to catch them.

Unfortunately, he just stood there and stared absentmindedly as their little bodies came crashing down onto the jagged rocks below.

Perhaps he was thinking of what his next sexual innuendo could be, perhaps he was distracted by the noise of the seagulls. I guess we'll never know, but it was the latter. It was almost as if they were laughing at him. No, not laughter, more like jeering. Jeering with their big fucking birdy beaks, all orange and fucky.

As it happens, orange and fucky was the name of my first wife, but that's for another time.

Reply to Sapientia You know, 4 was the name of my first child. My other first child, that is.

Would it not have been easier just to say that you had twins?

Reply to Sapientia As it happens, orange and fucky was the name of my first wife, but that's for another time.

Oh no, please tell us now, so that we can get it over and done with and get on with life again.

Quoting Sir2u

Would it not have been easier just to say that you had twins?

No, I didn't have twins, I had two offspring produced by the same pregnancy.

Quoting Sir2u

Oh no, please tell us now, so that we can get it over and done with and get on with life again.

I'll tell you one by one if you form an orderly queue on the cliff edge.

Reply to Sapientia I'll tell you one by one if you form an orderly queue on the cliff edge. :-O

Reply to Sir2u You can trust me, I'm an owl.

Reply to Sapientia You can trust me, I'm an owl. :-O :( :s

Well, Sappy definitely gets my vote for Most Morbid Moderator! I'm curious to know if it actually has any children that survived its harsh but fair disciplinary methods.

Quoting Sir2u

Because he has no control he needs someone to blame for everything. That is what he NEEDS god for, a scapegoat.

Which is more evidence that everything is goat.

@Sir2u This thread is called The Last Word, not The Last Emoji. Just so you know, using someone else's words, followed by emojis will not count as winning. I'm sure @Hanover will agree, though he has not instituted any of my other rule suggestions. Now that I think about, he'll probably say that an emoji is worth a hundred words, or something like that.

Reply to ArguingWAristotleTiff Which is more evidence that everything is goat.

Yup. Bet Banno is happy about that.

Reply to CasKev Now that I think about, he'll probably say that an emoji is worth a hundred words, or something like that.

The saying is " A picture is worth a thousand words"

So that's three thousand tries at the last word. :D X-) :-} I think.

Reply to Sir2u Why aren't you quoting in the proper way? I find that annoying. You at least know how to use quotation marks, as you've just demonstrated.

Alright, so follow me here because this is like really important. It's about emojis just so you know up front.

There are some cars that have a rounded truck. I'll show you:



Now, you might say "why come it's round like dat," assuming you talk like a hip 5 year old.

The answer is cuz in days of yore, all the old cars had tires attached to the back like so:



Now you see it sometimes on SUVs and Jeeps, but on normal cars, they just mimic what used to be there, sort of to remind you how things once were. There might be a day when people make new cars with round trucks and no one will know why. It will be lost to time.

Alright, so what does this have to do with emojis you ask? Well, I daresay that one day, likely soon, people will no longer talk to each other and make actual expressions, but everyone will just have blank faces. We'll send emojis back and forth to each other and we won't know why anymore.

I predict this will happen by Wednesday, maybe Thursday morning.

Thank you for following me on this . It was important.

Reply to Hanover Truck? I think you mean trunk. Trunk? I think you mean boot.

Quoting Sapientia

Why aren't you quoting in the proper way? I find that annoying. You at least know how to use quotation marks, as you've just demonstrated.

I seem to have a problem with the quote function, some days it works and some it does not. Today it is fine but tomorrow who knows. :s

Reply to Sapientia I mean trunk, not boot. Also, it's hood, not bonnet if that ever comes up.

Quoting Hanover

Now, you might say "why come it's round like dat," assuming you talk like a hip 5 year old.

But you would be giving the wrong answer.

http://www.affordableclassicsinc.com/ClassicsPgs/1979_%20LINCOLN_%20MARK_%20V.htm

Quoting Hanover

I mean trunk, not boot. Also, it's hood, not bonnet if that ever comes up.

American English is the historical equivalent of trying to sound like a hip 5 year old.

OK, but what happens if you put a hood on your trunk? I think it just ruins the experience.

Reply to CasKev You would have to drive backwards. :P

I never drive backwards. I don't like smelling the exhaust. ;)

Reply to CasKev >:O Then I suppose one shouldn't place the hood on one's trunk haha. :P

Quoting CasKev

OK, but what happens if you put a hood on your trunk? I think it just ruins the experience.

I don't have a trunk. I'm not an elephant or a tree.

@Sapientia But you must be as old as one, with all of those children you've raised.

Quoting CasKev

But you must be as old as one, with all of those children you've raised.

He has not raised any kids, he just gets them old enough to throw off cliffs.

But he had to raise them to get them on a high enough cliff. Unless maybe he lives on top of a mountain, where he does all of his philosophical pondering, in which case he lowered them.

Quoting CasKev

to get them on a high enough cliff.

Where did he say the cliffs were high, and what were the smoking?

Is it really a cliff if it isn't high?

Smoke weed. Become a cliff.

I've known quite a few Cliffs that were never high. And throwing a child off of one would be no worse than pushing it down the stairs.

Quoting CasKev

And throwing a child off of one would be no worse than pushing it down the stairs.

I don't know about that. To establish that I'll first have to conduct a few tests. Meet me at the stairs. Bring your children.

(Too far? >:O )

Hahaha! OK, I'll bring my friend Cliff. We can get high together, and maybe push him down the stairs too.

Quoting CasKev

Hahaha! OK, I'll bring my friend Cliff. We can get high together, and maybe push him down the stairs too.

And afterwards, we can meet my friend Stairs and push him off a cliff.

He probably deserves it - I hear he has a bad stairing problem.

Quoting CasKev

He probably deserves it - I hear he has a bad stairing problem.

The rumours are true. He has his eyes focused on recovery, but he's taking it step by step.

Although when push comes to shove, he doesn't really have a firm footing, and might fall off the wagon at any moment. Especially since I pushed the wagon to the edge of a cliff.

Quoting CasKev

Is it really a cliff if it isn't high?

Only if you are lying dead at the bottom of it would it matter.

Then I could have a nice conversation with @Sapientia's favourite kids, 68 and 69.

Quoting CasKev

Then I could have a nice conversation with Sapientia's favourite kids, 68 and 69.

Can't Quite think of anything worthy of being a reply to that. Maybe I'll try tomorrow.

Bloody weird people talking to dead kids, what the hell is the world coming to?

Too bad you couldn't think of anything - then you might have had the Last Word.

Quoting CasKev

Too bad you couldn't think of anything - then you might have had the Last Word.

So you think that this might be it?

Yes, I think everyone has lost interest. I'll start a new thread to let them know the game is over, and I won.

Quoting CasKev

Yes, I think everyone has lost interest. I'll start a new thread to let them know the game is over, and I won.

If you did not participate in the old thread you do not understand how this works. Some people wait months for everyone to forget about it, then they sneak in at midnight to post and hope that no one will notice.

Quoting CasKev

Is it really a cliff if it isn't high?

Even if a cliff is high by definition, he didn't say he threw him off the highest part of the cliff. Like once I fell off a 1000 foot ladder, but thankfully I was on the first rung.

Quoting Hanover

a 1000 foot ladder

Where the hell did you find that? And how did you set it up?

I built the ladder out of Legos. So many Legos. So so many.

Quoting Hanover

I built the ladder out of Legos. So many Legos. So so many.

So the question becomes
Where the hell did you find that many Legos?

Due to technical problems no further posts are to be made on this thread.

Doing so might put your computer at risk of being infested by the super virus that disables the FAT on your hard drive and starts an infinity loop of high processing stresses on the CPU so that it burns out within seconds.

Reply to Sir2u You can hide the FAT, but there's always some clever bastard who will find it and everything else you meant to discard.

Quoting Sir2u

So the question becomes
Where the hell did you find that many Legos?

Quoting Sir2u

If you did not participate in the old thread you do not understand how this works. Some people wait months for everyone to forget about it, then they sneak in at midnight to post and hope that no one will notice.

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Sir! Don't give away my secrets!

Quoting ArguingWAristotleTiff

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Sir! Don't give away my secrets!

ME!!!!

I am a closed tomb, never a peep will people hear from me.

Quoting Hanover

You can hide the FAT, but there's always some clever bastard who will find it and everything else you meant to discard.

I was not referring to your waist line, but a part of the hard disk on the computer. It's a technical term so don't worry about trying to understand it.

I have come up with a new word that means 'the last word'. It is zyzalogue. I win.

Reply to Sir2u I know what the FAT is. If you delete a file, you delete only the first letter of the name in the FAT, and the file you thought was deleted wasn't.

Quoting Hanover

I know what the FAT is. If you delete a file, you delete only the first letter of the name in the FAT, and the file you thought was deleted wasn't.

FAT File Allocation Table
It is something like an index that tells the computer where to find the files, the physical location of it on the disk. And you are right, the file does not get removed it only has its name changed to $.

To delete a file from the File Allocation Table, you need to delete the Sub Location In Module.

Quoting CasKev

I have come up with a new word that means 'the last word'. It is zyzalogue. I win.

It's been tried and napes it doesn't work.
Why is the board called a "Mother Board"?

Quoting ArguingWAristotleTiff

Why is the board called a "Mother Board"?

Probably because Father Board sounds bloody stupid.

Quoting Sir2u

Probably because Father Board sounds bloody stupid.

There is something special about a Mother?
{looking for a bit of appreciation for all the things the Mother does, noticed and unnoticed.}

Quoting ArguingWAristotleTiff

There is something special about a Mother?

Of course there is. Never tried it myself but I have heard all the wonderful things that they say about motherhood.

Quoting Sir2u

Of course there is. Never tried it myself but I have heard all the wonderful things that they say about motherhood.

Oh you must try cohabiting a body for 10 Lunar months, it's a kick and the ending...WOW...who would have thought such a pain level exists, legally, with the Geneva Convention in place.

Spending an entire week with my girls. Feels great! X-)

Reply to Sapientia They make a special hammer for permanently deleting files.

I bet you @Sapientia has a special hammer for permanently deleting children right before he throws them off the cliff.

Quoting Hanover

They make a special hammer for permanently deleting files.

I thought it was bleach?

The Last Word for today will be... conflagration!

Quoting Sir2u

Probably because Father Board sounds bloody stupid.

The rectangular key board is the Father Board, ejaculating text from the Mind of God into the Ever Virgin Mother Board. The mouse represents spermatozoa probably? OR, maybe the printer is the uterus -- churning out useless offspring like rabbits.

Paper copies are a crime against trees.

Trees against paper discrimination

Shame the old forum wasted away. Doesn't seem like this one retained the spark of the original.

Maw, I learned so much from you at PF that I wish you would give TPF at least a couple hundred posts before you loose that spark in your eye. :)

"You never close your eyes anymore when I kiss your lips and there's no tenderness like before on your fingertips, I'm tryin hard not to show it, but baby, baby I know it..."

Quoting Bitter Crank

The rectangular key board is the Father Board, ejaculating text from the Mind of God into the Ever Virgin Mother Board. The mouse represents spermatozoa probably? OR, maybe the printer is the uterus -- churning out useless offspring like rabbits.

Yee gads, I don't even want to think about what a microphone would be in your universe.

Quoting ArguingWAristotleTiff

"You never close your eyes anymore when I kiss your lips and there's no tenderness like before on your fingertips, I'm tryin hard not to show it, but baby, baby I know it..."

No one ever looses the loving feeling, they just misplace it sometimes. Unless that is, the person is a complete and utter bloody idiot.

Spark? This place is no mere spark. This place is an atom bomb, and it blows the old place out of the water.

Yeah, just try arguing with Thanatos Sand. You'll find lots of flame there.

Quoting Sapientia

This place is an atom bomb, and it blows the old place out of the water.

What place are you referring to?

No, that's OK I figured it out.

Well, that was a great week! Back to the grind on Tuesday. Out with the old boss, in with the new! :)

Quoting CasKev

Well, that was a great week! Back to the grind on Tuesday. Out with the old boss, in with the new!

Shit did I miss something, like the memo about 3 day weekends! My weekends are only 2 days, if I am lucky. And I usually have work I brought home.

Civic holidays - they're great! Gotta love Canada!

Quoting CasKev

Civic holidays - they're great! Gotta love Canada!

Holidays. That's why I like my job.
6 weeks for Christmas
1 week for Easter
2 weeks mid-year
8 days Civic holidays

Oh, that's not so bad! You made it sound pretty grim in your preceding post.

Quoting CasKev

Oh, that's not so bad! You made it sound pretty grim in your preceding post.

Because the rest of the year is close to slave labor with 400 kids shouting at you.

Have you had the pleasure of teaching any of @Sapientia's children?

Quoting CasKev

Have you had the pleasure of teaching any of Sapientia's children?

May the gods and Murphy forbid such a thing. (please read with a thick Scottish accent)

I don't any of the little bleeders every got to school, him being so bloody busy chucking them of cliffs and so on.

Quoting Sir2u

May the gods and Murphy forbid such a thing.

Who is Murphy?

Quoting ArguingWAristotleTiff

Who is Murphy?

The Murphy that has laws named after him.
Murphy's Law, the governing rule of the universe.

Quoting Sir2u

The Murphy that has laws named after him.
Murphy's Law, the governing rule of the universe.

Oh THAT Murphy!
Have you ever heard of Ferguson?

Quoting ArguingWAristotleTiff

Have you ever heard of Ferguson?

The one that ran the football team?

We've got us some English-type weather here in Sudbury today. One big cloud covering the sky with a bit of drizzle. Who has something to brighten up the day?

Quoting CasKev

Who has something to brighten up the day?

It's Friday!
Next week is carnival week here.
I have 6 6packs of cheap beer in the fridge. Not much else though.

I'll try to think of something else and get back to you in a bit.

Hahaha! Please refer to the thread on getting authentically drunk... >:O

Quoting CasKev

Hahaha! Please refer to the thread on getting authentically drunk... >:O

I had a couple of quick looks at it, but I figured that I had too much to say about the topic.
I only have hangovers if I drink the local brews, so I just buy cheap imported stuff. Costs about 50 cent US instead of $1 for the local stuff.

And by the way, stop sending your rain over here. It was a nice 90F until you started complaining about the weather. X-)

I will take all the rain you have Sir (Y)

Hey Tiff!

Heard that you got rid of your sheriff (If I remember correctly it was your sheriff).

Must have been a tough spot for you. ;)

Quoting ssu

Heard that you got rid of your sheriff

Who shot the sheriff?

Quoting ssu

Hey Tiff!

Heard that you got rid of your sheriff (If I remember correctly it was your sheriff).

Must have been a tough spot for you. ;)

ssu, you are soo correct! Can I get a Woo Hooo?!?!?!?! (Y)

Quoting Sir2u

I have 6 6packs of cheap beer in the fridge. Not much else though.

I'll try to think of something else and get back to you in a bit.

Fruits and vegetables maybe? Some cheese? Bread?

Quoting Bitter Crank

Fruits and vegetables maybe? Some cheese? Bread?

Yeah we got some of them too, did you think I only drank beer? it was the day before shopping day.
Well at least we still had some the cheese.
Nothing better than supping beer with lumps of cheese to munch. The vegetables go in the stew that is also great to eat with a beer or two. The fruit gets juiced and are always good for mixing drinks. Oh yeah, bread. Toasted bread with sardines is fantastic with beer. :D

Quoting Sir2u

Toasted bread with sardines is fantastic with beer.

Is that some sort of sick joke? Sardines are fine either straight from the can or in spaghetti sauce on pasta; I can't quite imagine them on toast. Maybe you could season the sardines with some of that yeast spread. What's it called?

I like to put sardines between my lip and gum and suck on their carcasses and spit the juice out like dipping tobacco. I keep the open tin in my shirt pocket, letting the dripping fish oils lubricate my teat as the sharp metal top pleasantly scrapes my undertit.

That's what I like to do. Dunno why.

Is Kombucha alcohol?

Depends. Is it a potato?

It's Gluten Free, Non-Dairy and Vegan. Does that make it a potato?

I like to post in this thread whenever I can't find another thread to which I can make a useful contribution. So I post in here a fair bit. I'm mostly interested in philosophy of the mind. Given my history of depression and possible hypomania, I'm very motivated to achieve lasting, stable peace of mind. I'm least interested in the threads about logical equations, and anything Thanatos Sand or John Harris have to say.

Banno called me a Philosophy Cheerleader more than a Philosophy player if that makes any sense. I took it as a compliment because I know he meant it to be truthful and not hurtful. And to be completely honest, I have the legs for being a Cheerleader way before I could ever have legs as a player.
So Caskev, be at ease with yourself and your genuine soul will shine through and know that you are not alone (by any means) when it comes to dealing with depression.

Sometimes you want to go where everybody knows your name.... 8-)

Cheers! So what you're saying is you've got great legs and a positive attitude... Can't go wrong there!

And they're always glad you came~ You want to go where people know our troubles are all the same, you want to go where everybody knows your name...

Quoting Bitter Crank

Is that some sort of sick joke?

Don't knock it till you try it. But you have to get the sardines with chili hot sauce.

Quoting Bitter Crank

Maybe you could season the sardines with some of that yeast spread. What's it called?

Beer, it's called beer. :-}

That's an obvious set-up for a joke about beer and spreading, but given all the recent sexism hoopla, I'll let that one slide right by... ;)

Quoting CasKev

That's an obvious set-up for a joke about beer and spreading, but given all the recent sexism hoopla, I'll let that one slide right by... ;)

I thought that I was the only one with a dirty mind. >:)

Crap, I just realized that I am on 2 threads called The First Words and The Last Word. I will have to do some serious thinking so as not to confuse my posts.

I suppose I should tread very carefully now... they've started a thread about ousting me - "We Need to Talk About Kevin"...

I think we need 'like' and 'dislike' buttons and counts in this forum. Sometimes, I think I've made a pretty decent post, and no one really responds to it saying 'Hurrah' or 'Woohoo' - it just kind of sits there, and I'm left to feel like no one even bothered to consider it. Or wait - maybe silence is the highest form of praise you can get here... :)

Quoting CasKev

I think we need 'like' and 'dislike' buttons and counts in this forum.

We used to have 'like' buttons. They were voted out. I voted to keep them, but now I think it's better without them.

Quoting CasKev

Or wait - maybe silence is the highest form of praise you can get here... :)

I ain't fallin' for that one.

Quoting CasKev

Sometimes, I think I've made a pretty decent post, and no one really responds to it saying 'Hurrah' or 'Woohoo' - it just kind of sits there, and I'm left to feel like no one even bothered to consider it.

Unfortunately, good posts get ignored. Fortunately, bad posts also get ignored.

There is a thing you can do that might help: Quote somebody in your post (using the quote tool) or reply to somebody using the reply tool. Obviously the quote or the reply should be relevant to your excellent post. Learned philosophers tend to more frequently read and respond to other learned philosopher's posts when they themselves are mentioned in the post.

If that doesn't work, remember that life is just a living nightmare most of the time, so it is quite consistent with reality that one's pearls should be trampled by swine.

Quoting Sapientia

We used to have 'like' buttons. They were voted out. I voted to keep them, but now I think it's better without them.

Ah well, I guess I'll just have to bask in the silence.

Reply to CasKev Until someone comes along and breaks it.

Quoting CasKev

Or wait - maybe silence is the highest form of praise you can get here...

That's how the original thread in the old place got started.

I made a suggestion on the Facebook page that they should post more excerpts from the Forum there. Maybe we can get some validation that way. X-)

Reply to CasKev There's a Wiser Words thread here for that, and anyone can quote anything from anyone, but it hardly gets used here, unlike in the old place.

Took a look. You're right - it doesn't get used much, except by @ArguingWAristotleTiff, the Philosophy Cheerleader. ;)

Quoting CasKev

Maybe we can get some validation that way. X-)

Is that your reason for posting here? Most of us do it for fun. :D

Hard to know if you're a worthwhile individual without some 'Likes'! It's the most accurate measure out there!

Quoting CasKev

Hard to know if you're a worthwhile individual without some 'Likes'! It's the most accurate measure out there!

Do you think that the people that liked you understood what you said, or they liked you because you said something that they were to dumb to think of.

Too.

Okay, maybe we're going to need a few more buttons... I suggest 'Agree', 'Like', '?', and 'Brilliant!'

Reply to CasKev
Lol! Exactly. Some more button possibilities: "WTFudge?", "Tl;DR", "Pure Genius!", "Could you dumb it down a shade, please?", "meh... ", "Thems fightin' words! (if I could ever translate it into plain English, that is)", "What-eva!", "Inspirational! Want that engraved on my tombstone!"

Probably not possible, but it might be interesting to use the emojis/ smilies as a vote feedback at the end of posts. Example:

(Y) 7 . :-O 5. (N) 4. X-) 3. :P 2.

What-eva!

:D 13 (Y) 19

Hahaha!

I think I'll just start adding them at the end of my own posts. Looks pretty legit. People will be trying to click on them and nothing will happen.

:D 8 >:) 2

Reply to CasKev
Hee hee! Though odds are i would eventually get the a rating of:

:-d 99. (N) 81. :-} 36.

Haha! But at least you would know that you suck, instead of just constantly wondering.

Reply to CasKev
Or that a particular approach might be barking up the wrong tree. (There might be an upside to some small anonymous feedback.) But then again... there's that very slim chance that I'm right and 135 other philosophy devotees are wrong. It could happen! It is such a burden sometimes to be slightly ahead of the rest of humanity. Oh, the pain... the pain of it all! :D

NO TO THE BUTTONS.(N) (Y) (N) (Y) (N)

It is soooo tempting to push them. (N) (Y) (N) (Y)

Reply to Sir2u
Ahhh... it might be fun though! Give feedback without starting a riot. Since we can't have 9 different fonts and 17 text colors... X-) (Of course it won't happen because of the forum format software thingy even if all the moderators suffered simultaneous concussions and agreed to it!)

Time to celebrate our youngest Indian going to college next week. Just our inner circle, the four that makes my world complete. Cheers to Knowledge and the pursuit of a higher thinking and a good dose of luck that the base education of books and life, we have provided him till now, will be enough for him to grow from.

This is hardly the "Last Word" but it is my favorite poem of all time:
an excerpt from
"The Prophet" by Kahlil Gibran

And a woman who held a babe against her bosom said,
"Speak to us of Children".
And he said:

Your children are not your children,
They are the sons and daughters of Life's longing for itself.
They come through you but are not from you,
And though they are with you yet they belong not to you.

You may give them your love but not your thoughts,
For they have their own thoughts.
You may house their bodies but not their souls,
For their souls dwell in the house of tomorrow,
which you cannot visit, not even in your dreams.
You may strive to be like them, but seek not to make them like you.
For life goes not backward nor tarries with yesterday.

You are the bows from which your children
as living arrows are sent forth.
The archer sees the mark upon the path of the infinite, and
He bends you with His might that His arrows may go swift and far
Let your bending in the archer's hand be for gladness;
For even as He loves the arrow that flies,
So he loves also the bow that is stable.

Reply to ArguingWAristotleTiff

It would make a very fitting end to this thread.

Buggery and brimstone.

I think I messed that up didn't I.

My cat is kneading it's claws in my chest and my dog is whining on the floor because she wants up in the bed. My efforts at negotiating aren't working.

Quoting Hanover

My cat is kneading it's claws in my chest and my dog is whining on the floor because she wants up in the bed. My efforts at negotiating aren't working.

Take the bloody thing over to the Shoutbox, they are talking about fat cats licking their balls over there.

Quoting Sir2u

I think I messed that up didn't I.

Nah, Sir, you didn't mess it up, you just confirmed for me that you actually read what I posted and THAT will never be "messed up". (L)

Quoting Hanover

My efforts at negotiating aren't working.

Wait, aren't you an attorney? Did they not have a "Mediation" class in Law school?

Quoting ArguingWAristotleTiff

Did they not have a "Mediation" class in Law school?

Yeah, but they didn't teach me how to negotiate with cats. I'm talking literal cats here, so keep your mind out of the gutter.

~wicked grins
Maybe after my second cup of Joe

@Hanover I think literal cats are probably a lot easier to negotiate with... consider yourself lucky!

Quoting Hanover

Yeah, but they didn't teach me how to negotiate with cats. I'm talking literal cats here, so keep your mind out of the gutter.

Bloody useless degree if they didn't give cat language classes. :D

Quoting Sir2u

Bloody useless degree if they didn't give cat language classes. :D

Or if they make you get your mind out of the gutter O:)

Who let Transcended Realms and his packets back in?

When the world gets dark and you can no longer see
Just let my love throw a spark and have a little faith in me....

First we douse you in gasoline.

Marshmallows anyone? X-)

Years ago when coaching 8 year olds in soccer, Keith kept throwing small sticks at Anthony, so I made Keith sit out, and so he sat on the cooler and cawed like a crow.

Two questions: (1) is anyone here crow cawing Keith?, and (2) if you're not, and we can't find him, can you write about him on your milk carton to help me find him? I really need to find him. He has my keys and I can't get home.

@Hanover

I would start with Rich and Transcended Realms. Though not as nasty as Thanatos Harris, neither one of them likes having their ideas challenged, and it often results in incessant cawing and stick throwing.

Quoting Hanover

Years ago when coaching 8 year olds in soccer, Keith kept throwing small sticks at Anthony,

Ok, I have just one little question.

If you were training them to play soccer, I presume that you were on a soccer field.
If you were on a soccer field, where the hell did the little brat get the small sticks from?

Reply to Sir2u The small sticks came from the branches that came from the trees that came from the ground that came from the earth that came from the sky that came from the cat that came from the book that came from the man with the mangled hand who hung out in the garden waiting for the cart full of the weeds that had been pulled and were on their way to the simmering pile by the brook where no man dare tread.

That's where the sticks came from.

Duh.

What has been said cannot be unsaid. It is what it is. And where of one cannot speak then better leave unsaid.

Posty McPostface is a Greedy Gus. There. I said it, it can't be unsaid, and it is what it is. He wanted the Last Word, but he can't have it!

Quoting Hanover

The small sticks came from the branches that came from the trees that came from the ground that came from the earth that came from the sky that came from the cat that came from the book that came from the man with the mangled hand who hung out in the garden waiting for the cart full of the weeds that had been pulled and were on their way to the simmering pile by the brook where no man dare tread.

That's where the sticks came from.

Duh.

Hey OK, I only asked. Don't get your knickers in a twist.

Quoting CasKev

Posty McPostface is a Greedy Gus. There. I said it, it can't be unsaid, and it is what it is. He wanted the Last Word, but he can't have it!

Yeah, he is tricky like that isn't he.

But what is not shall not be.

This thread almost made it to the fourth page. Someone might try to declare themselves a winner if that were to happen!

If you wish to measure someone's lack of delusion, just ask them how many unwelcome beliefs they have.

Quoting CasKev

This thread almost made it to the fourth page. Someone might try to declare themselves a winner if that were to happen!

This quote is on page 19 according to my counter?

So I had better call myself the winner and the rest of you can just piss of and play around in another thread.

Word.

Up.

Why was the philosophy forum so nice to lie in?

It had a high thread count! :D

Gasoline? Really? And you Sir, Marshmallows? Did you want some chocolate to go with that? >:O
I'm PMSing, empty nesting, playing Nurse to a sick husband and my Mother in Law is due back in September. Are you REALLY going to risk denying me chocolate?

Quoting CasKev

Why was the philosophy forum so nice to lie in?

It had a high thread count! :D

OK, now I think I am going to vote for the thumb down button.

Quoting ArguingWAristotleTiff

Are you REALLY going to risk denying me chocolate?

Hey lady, calm down. Eat a Snickers, they say they are good for removing grouchiness, relieving dramatic seizures and a whole bunch of other things.

Better yet, have 2. Hanover will pay for them.

Quoting Sir2u

Better yet, have 2. Hanover will pay for them.

I did and also ordered a container of Häagen-Dazs to make White Russians with instead of the cream. 8-)

Well, I figured I would get the last word in before I head out for the weekend. Soccer tournament! Or football, for you British blokes!

Quoting CasKev

Well, I figured I would get the last word in before I head out for the weekend. Soccer tournament! Or football, for you British blokes!

I'm British and I think that the whole soccer/football thing is a crock of shit.

22 full grown men running around a pieces of grass trying to kick a poor little ball to death. And when they actually manage to put the bloody thing in the box at the end of the field all those sweaty bodies start hugin and kissin each other and touchin each others arses.

No thanks.

Quoting ArguingWAristotleTiff

I did and also ordered a container of Häagen-Dazs to make White Russians with instead of the cream.

I'll be there in a while to help you give it a warm welcome when it arrives. X-)

Reply to ArguingWAristotleTiff People don't combine alcohol with ice cream enough.

Reply to Sir2u I knew I could count on you!
Reply to Bitter Crank I Absolutely agree with you ~
Cheers!

Well, I survived the weekend soccer tourney! Feels like I was beaten with a baseball bat, and I can barely make it up the stairs, but I'm still alive! #lifeafter40

Mares eat oats and Does' eat oats and little Lambs eat Ivy...

@ArguingWAristotleTiff

Your nursery rhymes and song tidbits will not claim the Last Word - I will make sure of it!

Quoting CasKev

Your nursery rhymes and song tidbits will not claim the Last Word - I will make sure of it!

Gotcha covered on that,

Congratulations PFers - we made it to another Friday! To celebrate, I think I'm going to take Monday off, and make it another long weekend...

Quoting Sir2u

Gotcha covered on that,

;)

Are you watching the wrath of Mother Nature? Hurricanes are her Fast balls, sometimes a curve ball but rarely a bunt. God throws Squirrels down from the trees for the dogs while Mother Nature destroys anything in her path. Why people curse or Thank God, while Mother Nature gets away scotch free, still puzzles me.

Quoting ArguingWAristotleTiff

Are you watching the wrath of Mother Nature?

Oh yeah, she is the queen and she knows it. Don't no one screw around with her and expect to win.

I was shitting myself when Harvey passed here, some of these recent hurricanes have been known to turn south. That would have been another disaster for us.

Quoting Sir2u

Oh yeah, she is the queen and she knows it. Don't no one screw around with her and expect to win.

I was shitting myself when Harvey passed here, some of these recent hurricanes have been known to turn south. That would have been another disaster for us.

I was worried about you and yours and am glad to hear you are doing well.
As far as Mother Nature being Queen, that would make me her Princess. O:) <<

Reply to ArguingWAristotleTiff

Talking about weather forecasting and me saying that some hurricanes are starting to go south.

Check out the track on this one.

https://www.wunderground.com/hurricane/atlantic/2017/hurricane-jose

Good lord! I hope Jose keeps making that right turn and you guys get blue skies and calm waters.

Quoting ArguingWAristotleTiff

Mares eat oats and Does' eat oats and little Lambs eat Ivy...

A kid'll eat ivy too; wouldn't you?

Sorry I missed this before. And now: "Hut-Sut Rawlson on the Rillarah and..."

It's interesting how great events, like the Big One and the Great Depression, seem to inspire memorable songs, some funny and some sad. I remember my parents, who lived through both, singing Mairzy Doats and The Hut-Sut song. From the Great Depression, you had Pennies from Heaven and Buddy, Can You Spare a Dime?, which for me evoke real pathos.

I guess philosophy is too deep and personal for most people. I tried to get my Facebook friends talking about their lives' meaning and purpose, and all I got was the sound of crickets chirping.

Reply to CasKev Just mix in something about politics and race and you'll get a nice FB discussion going.

Reply to Marchesk Just mix in something about politics and race and you'll get a nice FB discussion going.

There is no way giving this kind of advise is going to get you the last word. :-|

Quoting Ciceronianus the White

It's interesting how great events, like the Big One and the Great Depression, seem to inspire memorable songs, some funny and some sad. I remember my parents, who lived through both, singing Mairzy Doats and The Hut-Sut song. From the Great Depression, you had Pennies from Heaven and Buddy, Can You Spare a Dime?, which for me evoke real pathos

I am so glad you responded Ciceronianus because it is this time of year that I miss my hometown. I can hear my Granny singing the Mares Eat Oats song that was usually followed by Edelweiss. My Granny was convinced of my singing potential and she was right which made her day because My Mom couldn't carry a tune to save her life. (L) Another song was apparently a drinking song but My Mom and I sang it while laying on either side of my Grampa, rocking, until he took his last breath. We must have sung the one line we knew a million times that night (L) The song lyric was "Show me the way to go home, I'm tired and I want to go to bed. I had a little drink about an hour ago and it went straight to my head..."

Reply to ArguingWAristotleTiff The rest of it is: Wherever I may roam, on land or sea or foam, you'll always hear me singing this song, show me the way to go home."

Quoting CasKev

I guess philosophy is too deep and personal for most people.

I found "philosophy" to be too shallow. I mean actual philosophy would be vast and deep, but their are so few actual philosophers left, and they are not the ones musing about the meaning of life.

Quoting Ciceronianus the White

The rest of it is: Wherever I may roam, on land or sea or foam, you'll always hear me singing this song, show me the way to go home."

(L) Ciceronianus, you will always hold a special place in my heart, for it feels like you have known the links, to the meaning of so much of my life that I took for granted. (L)

Reply to ArguingWAristotleTiff Thank you, m'lady.

I have a mind that attaches itself to odds and ends, including the poetry that can be encountered in popular songs, especially those composed in hard times, and like to remind myself now and then that they're not far away, that my parents stuffed newspapers in their shoes because of the holes in their soles, and could not afford new ones; but also to remind myself that somehow the lives of those that came before were vital and interesting nonetheless, more interesting I think than mine is, that I had a grandfather who was a prizefighter for a time and a conductor on the Chicago L and is now buried with my grandmother in Mount Carmel Cemetery not far from the graves of Al Capone and Frank Nitti, that my other grandparents were in Vaudeville. How does my life, that of a mere lawyer, compare with theirs?

Another song of the 1920s, "Ain't We Got Fun" contains the memorable lines: "There's nothing surer, the rich get richer and the poor get...children [or "poorer" in other versions]; in the meantime, in between time, ain't we got fun?" That world isn't far away at all, is it?

Reply to Ciceronianus the White Be still my heart and pour me a warm one.
Queen of Heaven cemetery is where most of my family is in the Mausoleum.
I know Mount Carmel Cemetery well as my Granny who lived in Berwyn was a devote Catholic and I remember seeing her dressed in this beautiful black skirt suit, all her curls in place, loading me and my brother up in the Teal Caprice Classic and drove to Mount Carmel Cemetery as we had so many times before but she was never dressed in black. When we got there, there was a HUGE building draped in swags of black and we stopped, walked to the building and prayed. She had taken us to honor the passing of Cardinal Joseph Louis Bernardin. The Cardinal was waked in the Holy Name Cathedral which is where my sister chose to be married. For me? It was Creekside in Oak Creek Canyon which might just be where I ask my ashes to be spread but for her, much like many back home, it was all about the Pomp and circumstance.
You make me smile when you speak of the newspaper in your parents shoes because in comparison, I lived the life of luxury as I got to use the plastic bread bags, three layers thick in my boots to keep my feet dry in the Chicago snow. There is some genuine gratification in knowing that you can make it with less material things and still be happy, if not happier than if you always got what you needed.
I hope the songs live on. I am doing my part and you are doing yours and that is the best if not the only! 8-)

My turn. No song memories, but you made me reminisce, and so here it is. I suppose this explains me as good as anything...

I remember the long hot Georgia summers where you never wore shoes and you wandered off into the woods to the creek and looked for elusive crawdads, coming home for supper ("dinner" was the big meal mid day on Sunday) only when the street lights came on. Lightening bugs never lost their entertainment value. You wore Tough Skins from Sears Roebuck all with orange knees from the red Georgia clay.

The best spot at Grandmama's house (which was even farther south) was next to the blowing AC window unit. If the heat didn't keep you awake at night, the clatter of the crickets would.

Every man was a sir and every woman a m'am, no matter their standing. You stood for the national anthem, you bowed your head for the prayer, and closed your eyes as tight as you could. You never told on anyone, and you hit back hard. Dads told you to be honest and work hard and moms always reminded you to "be sweet," because you often weren't.

As I get older I convince myself my memories are all real. I think some really are. I suppose every generation laments the loss of their world.

It seems fitting these posts are found in the Last Word thread.

I was listening to an online radio yesterday, they played hours of music from '65 and '66.
I remembered my first days in New Orleans, late '65 when they played "Desolation Row" by Bob Dylan.
I was an almost 12 year old from England that had only ever seen a few people with dark skin, and most of them were Indians or Pakistanis. Lots of things came as a shock to me and in my ignorance / innocence I made some mistakes. Looking back, some were funny others not so.

There was a sign on a laundromat door "whites only". "Mom, we cannot wash my trousers here"

There was a separated coffee bar for colored people in the supermarket. "Why can't I have a coke?"

I stood up to let a lady sit down on a bus and she got scared and moved away from me. She was black.

Man, TranscendedRealms seems to really think he can change the world with his thoughts on life. But no matter how many times he rewords his post, I still don't understand what his point is... I just hope he doesn't start talking about his packets again!

Quoting CasKev

Man, TranscendedRealms seems to really think he can change the world with his thoughts on life.

Lots of people have already done that, but most of them had something to say that people wanted to listen to. Like Hitler or Martin Luther.

Does someone have the link to the original thread?

Reply to BlueBanana
http://forums.philosophyforums.com/10/12/
Page 12 and although you can no longer access the content of the thread, you can see who created the thread and the forum member who got the LAST word on that thread that was reborn here. 8-)

In reading the thread titles as I searched the hall of thinkers for the 'Last Word' I found myself getting a bit emotional, a tad nostalgic and a whole spectrum of feelings. I will spare you the details but tonight, I will look up to the sky and see if Mars Man is watching over us. He was always up for a bit of spirits as he so often wrote to us from the snow dusted roof tops.
Cheers to the good times~ (L)
Cheers to those we are fortunate enough to have around us now~ 8-)

Cheers Tiff, here's to all.

Got a couple of 6 packs of cheap Portuguese beer that tastes good, so the first one will be dedicated to all of those friends come and gone and those still here. The rest of them will probably be dedicated to them as well unless I think of some one or thing to toast.

Quoting Sir2u

so the first one will be dedicated to all of those friends come and gone and those still here.

Cheers for many years to come my friend~
It's good for us all to still be together, amazing friends~ (L)

We are being tested and we will rise to the challenge

Quoting ArguingWAristotleTiff

We are being tested and we will rise to the challenge

Damn right we will. (Y)

When will it be understood that freedom is anything but free?

When there's nothing left to lose?

Nothin', don't mean nothin' hon' if it ain't free, no no

Billy Preston:Nothin' from nothin' leaves nothin'
You gotta have somethin' if you want to be with me

"I want to fuck you like an animal
I want to feel you from the inside
I want to fuck you like an animal
my whole existence is flawed"

9 Inch Nails

As a wise man once said.
"We pay a high price for our freedom, sometimes we pay with our lives"

Quoting Sir2u

As a wise man once said.
"We pay a high price for our freedom, sometimes we pay with our lives"

My Uncle served 7 tours of duty in the 33 years he was in the Army and I have heard him say that many times. He also said "No matter what others will tell you, never forget American's will always fight for Liberty."

Sir, I wonder sometimes if my children will ever understand what those before us fought and died for.

Quoting ArguingWAristotleTiff

Sir, I wonder sometimes if my children will ever understand what those before us fought and died for.

Probably not, unless they make a chat group about it.

I have to be honest, I don't understand it all myself.
I know my dad served in the British merchant navy during the war. I know that he was in several conveys that were attacked. I know that they were all fighting to rid the world of a monstrous plague called the nazis. I still remember when I was six, asking why there were houses missing along some roads and being told that a bomb had hit it. I remember my grand mother telling us that the garden shed used to be the place they slept at night and even then I could see the fear she felt when she talked about it.

There were plenty of veterans around then, young old men that lived in mangled bodies, I saw a few more of them as a teenager while Vietnam was churning out death.

But I never lived any of the war. The suffering was second hand.

The US is still young, and the pleasures of freedom are still fresh in the air. England Is old, they people have forgotten the fights for freedom that happened years or centuries ago.

I talked to an old man that had fought in both wars. He told me that not even those that went to war really understood what they were fighting for. Even when they were told that they were fighting for own freedom a lot of them did not know why they fought for something that they already had.

Quoting Sir2u

The US is still young, and the pleasures of freedom are still fresh in the air. England Is old, they people have forgotten the fights for freedom that happened years or centuries ago.[/quote ]

I'm so very glad that Americans still see their Freedoms and choose to protect them.

[quote="Sir2u;111553"]The to an old man that had fought in both wars. He told me that not even those that went to war really understood what they were fighting for. Even when they were told that they were fighting for own freedom a lot of them did not know why they fought for something that they already had.

Sometimes you truly do not understand the value of something you have until it's gone.

You have probably heard these words before but I post them in case you haven't and the reason is simply because they came to me as I was pondering on some of the thoughts expressed here at TPF .

Do Not Go Gentle Into That Good Night
Do not go gentle into that good night,
Old age should burn and rave at close of day;
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

Though wise men at their end know dark is right,
Because their words had forked no lightning they
Do not go gentle into that good night.

Good men, the last wave by, crying how bright
Their frail deeds might have danced in a green bay,
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

Wild men who caught and sang the sun in flight,
And learn, too late, they grieved it on its way,
Do not go gentle into that good night.

Grave men, near death, who see with blinding sight
Blind eyes could blaze like meteors and be gay,
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

And you, my father, there on that sad height,
Curse, bless, me now with your fierce tears, I pray.
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

by Dylan Thomas

Evil will never dim our country's light of goodness and of her people who are Thankful to be able to call her home.

Quoting ArguingWAristotleTiff

Sometimes you truly do not understand the value of something you have until it's gone.

That is what I tried to explain, that the English have nothing to loose with any more controls because they never had the freedoms to begin with.

Quoting ArguingWAristotleTiff

Evil will never dim our country's light of goodness and of her people who are Thankful to be able to call her home.

And it never should.

Have any of you ever seen updog?

Quoting Hanover

Have any of you ever seen updog?

Not recently, the stupid mutt does want to get her lazy ass up off the porch.

Reply to Sir2u Play along!

Quoting Hanover

Play along!

No man, she is downdog, she doesn't even want to play.

I have no idea who up dog is. I do want to.share some advice my Veterinarian gave; she is of the belief that rawhide is never truly broken down by the body and can sit and eventually cause cancer. So her solution is to give the dogs "Bully Sticks" instead because they do digest it better.
I am not sure if you have had experience with Bully Sticks but I have and though the dogs love them, they stink something fierce. Bully Sticks are Bull Penis inner shank. They come in all sizes too. So next time you are at the Veterinarian, ask and see how they feel.about a box of cute rawhile bones, half of which puppy will gag on only.for you to fish it out of puppy's mouth or a box of Bull Penis that you likely will never have to fish out of puppy's mouth because puppy will know how to swallow.
Oh my, my

Yeah, you're supposed to say, "what's updog?" to which I say, "not much dog, how bout you?"

What's updog?

If you handed out scripts of what you want us to answer with it would go a lot smoother :D

Quoting Hanover

Yeah, you're supposed to say, "what's updog?" to which I say, "not much dog, how bout you?"

HaHaHa. No one fell for it. As Tiff points out there is no way people around here are going to answer if you don't give them a cue. (not clue)

I would be willing to bet that almost everyone that read your post googled it, and the rest thought you were talking shit so they ignored you.

Back to the drawing boards old man. :D

And my dog is not really lazy, she is hyper active.

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Quoting Sir2u

England Is old, they people have forgotten the fights for freedom that happened years or centuries ago.

No, I for one have not forgotten the First Barons War, Magna Carter, The Second Barons War, the Provisions of Oxford, the English Civil War, the Glorious Revolution, the Bill of Rights, Abolitionism & the Slavery Abolition Act 1833, the Suffragettes, the Representation of The People Act 1918, 1928 & 1969, the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, the International Bill of Human Rights, The Sexual Offences Act 1967 (decriminalised homosexuality), the Equal Pay Act 1970, and so on.

But I'm still against the Second Amendment.

Quoting Sapientia

No, I for one have not forgotten the First Barons War, Magna Carter, The Second Barons War, the Provisions of Oxford, the English Civil War, the Glorious Revolution, the Bill of Rights, Abolitionism & the Slavery Abolition Act 1833, the Suffragettes, the Representation of The People Act 1918, 1928 & 1969, the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, the International Bill of Human Rights, The Sexual Offences Act 1967 (decriminalised homosexuality), the Equal Pay Act 1970, and so on.

Are you really that old?
We all, at least those with some education, remember these. Historically.
Have you every lived without the right to vote? No, you have always had it.
Have you ever been denied the right to go to any public school that is near where you live, just because of the color of your skin or because you were poor. I doubt it.

There are a lot of Americans alive today with those memories and they are personal not historical memories.

Reply to Sir2u You weren't alive centuries ago either. I don't like the patronising tone in that kind of comment. It's not a game of Top Trumps. The point is that I haven't forgotten their importance, despite your offensive suggestion.

Quoting Sapientia

You weren't alive centuries ago either.

Your ignorance is astounding!

I am not talking about centuries ago. From 1965 to 69 I went to a segregated school. In case you do not know what that means, it was a school where only white students were allowed to study, the black students went to a shack down the road. I lived and rode the school buses that were forced by Desegregation Laws to go through the black neighborhoods to pick up the black kids and take them to black schools. It was no fun at all being spat upon for the color of your skin, no matter what color it was. There were many places in the southern states that were much worse than the small town I lived in.

Have you ever seen a film called Mississippi Burning. Watch it and then tell I could not have personal experience of those things.

Quoting Sapientia

I don't like the patronising tone in that kind of comment.

Hang on a moment,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, I really don't care. Suck it up. ( Oh dear, did I let my emotions show again?)

Quoting Sapientia

It's not a game of Top Trumps. The point is that I haven't forgotten their importance, despite your offensive suggestion.

You may have not forgotten their importance, but you have not lived any of them. A lot of Americans still have the feelings of hard won rights running through their veins. They or their parents lived those times go to sleep at night dreaming of them. They, the memories, are a living part of so many of the people lives.

And you, "Yes I read about that in history class and I understand that because of those people 10 centuries ago I now am a free man."

Did you ever hit the streets to protest anything, have you ever sent a letter to your legal representatives in the government asking for changes? Have you ever even tried to do something to make a change in the society in which you live?

Unless you have made a mark in history or participate in some way in it then you do not have personal memories of it. You have historical memories things that you have learned from books. And that is one of the biggest differences between you and the yanks.

Quoting Sir2u

Your ignorance is astounding!

I am not talking about centuries ago.

So predicable. Take a look at what you said:

Quoting Sir2u

England Is old, they people have forgotten the fights for freedom that happened years or centuries ago.

That's what I was referring to, genius.

23 years ago NicK and I were married Creekside at sunset, in the forest in which we met 4 years prior. True story that I met him in the woods camping, he the only other person with a dog and I, new to the group had my dog with me.
27 years later I wonder how we did but we are still doing so I am going to trust that the string will always be long enough to keep bonding each day we spend together into a book of our lifetime. The chapter of both Indians leaving the home for college has begun and I told NicK, that it is time again for us to have fun and do some of the things we gave up for parenthood and it's been a good time, as some of the stress has lifted.
But now we need to grow one more property, into the Bed and Breakfast that we have always dreamed of. We found the city, now as we prepare our ranch for sale, we look for our Cabin in the woods, woods that have four seasons. (L)
Oh and the presents we have exchanged? NicK gave me a Pumpkin which is the first gift he ever gave me and I gave him three Pinecones which represents the three boys he has brought into my life. (L)

Quoting Sapientia

That's what I was referring to, genius.

It is a shame that you did not read the original post. It was comparing the English way of thinking about rights to the American way of thinking. I explained that the English had more historical that personal memories of the fight for the rights that they enjoy where as the Americans have a lot of personal memories of them.

"England Is old, they people have forgotten the fights for freedom that happened years or centuries ago."
The reference is to people alive today, not centuries ago. I did not need to be around centuries ago to see it today.

If you fail to understand what people are saying to you, try asking for clarification of the point in question. It might make your life easier.

If you are going to insist on nitpicking silly little details instead of talking about the topic under discussion. I have no intention of replying.

cheerio old chap.

Quoting Sir2u

I have no intention of replying.

Good.

Some rights are not worth having. If the right to have a gun effectively translates into the right to live in a more violent society and thus the right to suffer a greater risk of harm therein, you can take that right and stick it where the sun don't shine (with all due respect).

Quoting Baden

Some rights are not worth having. If the right to have a gun effectively translates into the right to live in a more violent society and thus the right to suffer a greater risk of harm therein, you can take that right and stick it where the sun don't shine (with all due respect).

For the Americans all of their rights are connected and erosion of one might lead to complete removal of others. For them it is all or nothing, and they don't want nothing.

Quoting Sapientia

Good.

Glad to see that you agree with me.

Adios amigo.

Reply to Sir2u

It seems like that, doesn't it?

I just hope @ArguingWAristotleTiff didn't see that last comment. I'd much rather we talked about pumpkins. :)

Quoting Baden

I just hope ArguingWAristotleTiff didn't see that last comment. I'd much rather we talked about pumpkins. :)

She would probably ask how you want it served?

Reply to ArguingWAristotleTiff Why don't you give your dog beef bones? a 6 inch marrow bone has nutritious marrow (which your dog will lick out of the bone in a day or two) and then the bone will last quite a long time--years. Most dogs won't be able to crush the bones (they're pretty thick) so there won't be bone splinters in their gut.

Reply to Sir2u

Indeed...

Quoting Baden

Some rights are not worth having. If the right to have a gun effectively translates into the right to live in a more violent society and thus the right to suffer a greater risk of harm therein, you can take that right and stick it where the sun don't shine (with all due respect).

Amen.

Quoting Sir2u

For the Americans all of their rights are connected and erosion of one might lead to complete removal of others. For them it is all or nothing, and they don't want nothing.

So, slippery slope fallacy and false dilemma. Let's not propagate this unreasonable belief.

Quoting Sapientia

So, slippery slope fallacy and false dilemma.

I thought you said that you were finished with the discussion. But you keep on talking rubbish.

Quoting Sapientia

Let's not propagate this unreasonable belief.

Oh dear, goodness me, what a disaster. A bunch of philosophy forum members became infected with the absolutely ridiculous urge to go out and support the gun toting bandits that think they still live in the wild west.
And what is even worse/better, they have decided to start a protest against the US government in the form of a permanent ban of all American politicians that do not openly support the removal of all gun controls from the forum.

Who the hell is it going to be propagated to? :P

Get over these pathetic snippets of quasi-philosophy, morals derived from ignorance and grammar policing.

Quoting Sir2u

I thought you said that you were finished with the discussion. But you keep on talking rubbish.

No, no. That was [i]identifying[/I] rubbish.

By the way, I notice that your spelling and grammar are showing signs of improvement. Perhaps my grammar policing has had an effect, after all. Keep up the good work.

Quoting Sapientia

By the way, I notice that your spelling and grammar are showing signs of improvement. Perhaps my grammar policing has had an effect, after all. Keep up the good work.

I told you, if you had bothered to read my post, that as soon as you stopped pointing out stupid little things that have absolutely nothing to do with the topic being discussed I would stop making them.

If you intend to continue with your silly ways then I shall continue to do everything I can to make you look like the pathetic little nitwit that you are.

Bey bye.

Reply to Sir2u (Y)

Quoting Baden

I just hope ArguingWAristotleTiff didn't see that last comment. I'd much rather we talked about pumpkins. :)

I saw but we have already come to what I think is a reasonable middle ground, in you understanding my position and mine understanding yours.

Are you going to carve?

Reply to ArguingWAristotleTiff

Yes, I'd rather keep a hold of the knife just in case you change your mind. :D

Quoting Bitter Crank

Why don't you give your dog beef bones? a 6 inch marrow bone has nutritious marrow (which your dog will lick out of the bone in a day or two) and then the bone will last quite a long time--years. Most dogs won't be able to crush the bones (they're pretty thick) so there won't be bone splinters in their gut.

I was telling Hanover about the bully sticks because they are the closest to rawhide. I do buy the frozen long beef bones for the pups to chew on. As puppies I froze the bone and only gave it to them when they went into their crate. Now I give them one shot at chewing off the frozen beef bits and stuff on the bone and then I boil them till the marrow is cooked and then when cool, I give them back. They must have a couple dozen around the ranch. It keeps their teeth soo clean and they love it! ;)

Quoting Baden

Yes, I'd rather keep a hold of the knife just in case you change your mind. :D

Smart man ;)

Reply to ArguingWAristotleTiff

Better get some specialized knife dodging training. Axe block, compromise your footing, joint lock, double back flip.

Reply to ArguingWAristotleTiff Congratulations on your anniversary.

It's Mental Health Awareness Week! It's been almost 3 years since my last episode of major depression. I still experience depression-like thoughts from time to time, but they don't seem to carry the same weight these days. Despite the prolonged improvement in mood, there's an ever so slight lingering fear that the deep well of depression is just around the corner, waiting to swallow me up again. Hopefully the meds, the rTMS, and the CBT training will keep me on the right track. I'm thankful for all of the love and support in my life, especially from my partner, my mother, my daughters, and my son. They definitely make the battle for continuing peace of mind feel worthwhile.

Quoting Wosret

Better get some specialized knife dodging training. Axe block, compromise your footing, joint lock, double back flip.

Can I just have you as my body guard Wosret?

Quoting Bitter Crank

Congratulations on your anniversary.

Thank you BC~ I know you know what kind of work goes into such a simple celebration, another milestone but for us, it is the world. (L)

Reply to ArguingWAristotleTiff

Doesn't anyone else play violent video games, or saw someone shot on tv? The police basically are the only ones that are going to warn you that they have a weapon, if their plan is to actually use it. If someone was planning to shot or knife you, then you wouldn't know that until bullets or knives were already inside your body.

If someone shows you a weapon, that means that they don't plan to kill you with it, they plan to intimidate you with it, and if you've taken some moron gun or knife defense course, and figure that you'll just take it from them, then your plan is to escalate the situation, rather than deescalate. Maybe you do get it from them, maybe you do, but there is also a good chance that you don't, and just get yourself killed for no reason instead.

I have been able to build a gun entirely out of rawhide. It shoots frozen marrow pellets. Not only am I able to get it through the metal detector, my puppy Fred Barkowitz will destroy the evidence for me. Even if he doesn't eat the whole thing, no investigator is going to pick up a slimy chewed rawhide. That's way nasty.

If you grew up where I did (I lived under a dumpster where grey dumpster stew would pour into my mouth), you'd understand why I needed a rawhide gun in the airport. I used to fight the rats for food back then, but we fought with our words, not our fists, because we weren't philistines.

One thing we'd calmly discuss back then is what the fuck that last sentence is doing in this already fucked up post. This level of post unpredictabilty further proves the lunacy of climate change (as if we know which way the next poetic wind will blow). Proof of point: I'm standing on my head next time the Pope hands out his crackers at a football game. That'll stop the molestation.

Take everything in your head, stir it up, and piss it out your mouth I always say. Always.

I was at a party and someone said shit to my bitch, and I was like wuuut no you diii-uuu, and just as I showed him my sharpened penis that I had to a fine point from rubbing it along the concrete, dude pulls out a gun, jams the shit in my ear (deep in the aural canal near the cochlear and shit), and I'm twisting like a mother fucker trying to prick him with my pokey pecker. He squeezes off a round and my brain goes spraying on the stainless steel refrigerator (Whirlpool 800987 with water and ice dispenser) like a spray of glass cleaner.

I'm just saying I've had a hard day, so let me at least get the big piece of chicken. I mean God damn. At least that.

My point: If fate should have it that you will be the chosen soul to have the last word, don't strive for profound or even loving, but instead for the most divine of all traits. Creativity. The first thing God did was create, after all. Make it your last.

Quoting Hanover

Make it your last.

The thread is about the last word here, on this thread. Not the last word at the end of the world or even your life. Lighten up a bit. :D

Quoting Sir2u

The thread is about the last word here, on this thread. Not the last word at the end of the world or even your life.

This is what you want the last word at the end of the world to be? And not me either, but I'm talking about that last word, but now this, now this. Aaaahhh!

Quoting Hanover

I lived under a dumpster where grey dumpster stew would pour into my mouth

Whereas now it goes in the opposite direction.

Quoting Hanover

My point: If fate should have it that you will be the chosen soul to have the last word, don't strive for profound or even loving, but instead for the most divine of all traits. Creativity. The first thing God did was create, after all. Make it your last.

Amen.

(By the way, you're allowed to trash talk Trump here. Go on, be creative. ;) )

Reply to Hanover Reply to Wosret Reply to Sir2u Reply to Baden
Thank you for making me laugh, recalibrating my thoughts and feelings about issues close to my heart. (L)

Reply to Hanover Relax, THIS is a safe place :D

Quoting Wosret

Doesn't anyone else play violent video games, or saw someone shot on tv? The police basically are the only ones that are going to warn you that they have a weapon, if their plan is to actually use it. If someone was planning to shot or knife you, then you wouldn't know that until bullets or knives were already inside your body.

If someone shows you a weapon, that means that they don't plan to kill you with it, they plan to intimidate you with it, and if you've taken some moron gun or knife defense course, and figure that you'll just take it from them, then your plan is to escalate the situation, rather than deescalate. Maybe you do get it from them, maybe you do, but there is also a good chance that you don't, and just get yourself killed for no reason instead.

Ah, so you [i]can[/I] make a sensible point on the topic. I was beginning to lose hope.

Reply to Sapientia

Your agreement doesn't make something sensible, or right. Mine does.

Quoting Wosret

Your agreement doesn't make something sensible, or right. Mine does.

Oh, so [I]you're[/I] the goddess of wisdom?

Quoting ArguingWAristotleTiff

?Hanover ?Wosret ?Sir2u ?Baden
Thank you for making me laugh, recalibrating my thoughts and feelings about issues close to my heart.

You're welcome.

Quoting Sapientia

You're welcome.

For?

Quoting ArguingWAristotleTiff

For?

:D

Reply to Sapientia Do you expect me to continue to take your tainted bait?

Quoting ArguingWAristotleTiff

Do you expect me to continue to take your tainted bait?

Would it be asking too much to expect you to take a joke? [I]Tainted Bait[/I] sounds like a good rock band name, by the way.

I'm writing a book. Here it is so far. I think it has a nice flow:

She so badly wanted that new iron, but as she stared at his gonads, she thought to herself there must be a better way.

If the pillow won't work, maybe the plastic wrap will, although it's so hard to get it to tear cleanly while he's thrashing about.

I can't be expected to find safety pins at 5:00 a.m., especially while I'm vacuuming out the sticky mounds of hair ground into the carpet.

But if I don't cover his arm completely, the dogs will bring it to the playground again and I'll have to give another explanation.

Thoughts?

Quoting Hanover

Thoughts?

Try writing limericks?

Quoting Hanover

Thoughts?

Would you believe that you have left me completely speechless?

Mother Nature's flames have licked the Grapes of Wrath but the vines that hold God's globes of nectar will have the final laugh.

A little diddy about Jack and Diane
two American kids growin up in the heartland...

She was married when we first met
Soon to be divorced
I helped her out of a jam, I guess
But I used a little too much force

Tiff, for you:

A dragon lives forever but not so little boys
Painted wings and giant rings make way for other toys

Quoting Hanover

lest same falls on a Sunday, in which case there shall be no game, but instead the day will be a day of fasting and contemplation.

So if I fast and contemplate, I have a 1:7 chance of winning (the odds of the game beginning on a Sunday). Which is far better than the chance of winning 1:X, X being the number of participants. Given of course that I don't disqualify myself by use of the two prohibited words and have correctly interpreted the obscure meaning of the rules.
To be safest, I should practice this austerity each and every Sunday but I would probably be safe with just Sundays in March and April given the unclear meaning of the formal beginning of the game.

Quoting MysticMonist

So if I fast and contemplate

This includes abstinence from sex, booze and television. Unless the TV show is a philosophical competition game where at least one fasting member of the following religions are participating. Jewish, Catholic, Anglican, Muslim, and Southern Baptist. Sex is also permitted if it is shown on said TV show.

Quoting Hanover

A dragon lives forever but not so little boys
Painted wings and giant rings make way for other toys

Awwww Little Jackie Paper loved that rascal Puff

That reminds me of a guy who was banned for behavior with warnings but was just having a really hard time in life. DragonSlayer. Maybe one day he will drop in here.

Some say the song is about drugs and whatever, but to me it's clearly a sentimental song about little boys growing up.

Quoting Hanover

Some say the song is about drugs and whatever, but to me it's clearly a sentimental song about little boys growing up.

And doing drugs and whatever.

Reply to Sir2u Art is in the eye of the beholder I suppose, but my read on this one is spot on, and yours superficial. The child's imaginary friend disappeared when his childhood disappeared, but you get entirely diverted by the word "puff" and declare it an ode to marijauna.

Quoting Hanover

The child's imaginary friend disappeared when his childhood disappeared, but you get entirely diverted by the word "puff" and declare it an ode to marijauna.

I had a bad experience with that damned dragon a few years ago. I woke up one morning with the song "Puff the magic dragon" looping in my head. I spent the whole day with it spinning around in there. The funny thing is that I had not heard the song since I was a kid and that was a loooooong time ago.
At the end of the work day I was leaving and a teacher from the primary area asked if I could help her with something. She pulled out a book about Puff the magic dragon. I almost took of running.

And you are probably right about it being about a boy growing up and forgetting his friend.
And "puff" then turned into something completely different.

I may not have the last word, but I am claiming the title of posting the 500th comment. I declare myself above the rest of you until the 1000th poster shows up. See you then.

Did you know that The Birdie Song is about crack cocaine?

Did you know the song White Lines is about cocaine?

Did you know the song Cocaine is about being high on life?

Did you know that this is the 999th discussion?

Did you know that Miller High Life is the champagne of beers?

I really wish to apologize. I went through my old posts and realized I failed to formally introduce myself, so let's start over.

I'm Hanover. I enjoy long walks on the beach, snow cones at the fair, and skipping stones across lakes. My favorite food is corn. I like simple puzzles and am endlessly fascinated by those pictures you stare at until the image seems to magically leave the page.

One day when I retire, I hope to move to a small house surrounded by draping trees where I can lie next to Baden and play with his mouth.

Tell me about you. I imagine all of us are not so different around here.

Quoting Hanover

I'm Hanover. I enjoy long walks on the beach, snow cones at the fair, and skipping stones across lakes. My favorite food is corn. I like simple puzzles and am endlessly fascinated by those pictures you stare at until the image seems to magically leave the page.

Hanover, dear friend, I am sorry to inform you but your description sounds nothing like the young buck you were at PF but rather an application for acceptance in a long term care facility, which by the way, removing your love of corn will help you get accepted. ;)

Quoting ArguingWAristotleTiff

but rather an application for acceptance in a long term care facility

Mental or physical health care?

Quoting Sir2u

Mental or physical health care?

Physical for sure. We already know the mental state of Hanover.

Good night.

Good Morning

Bleh, I don't like mornings. lol

How about Happy End of Night?

Much better. Maybe even Happy End to Restless Tossing and Turning for a Long Long Time.

Excellent! Happy endings all around!

Hmmmm now we need something to celebrate at the end of the day. Maybe Happy End of Everything Going Wrong?

Quoting Lone Wolf

Hmmmm now we need something to celebrate at the end of the day. Maybe Happy End of Everything Going Wrong?

Expect

Quoting Lone Wolf

Restless Tossing and Turning for a Long Long Time.

Quoting Sir2u

Expect Restless Tossing and Turning for a Long Long Time

I know that feeling Sir~

Sadly, it's all too true. :( Now it must be Happy Everything Starts Going Wrong again?

I'm Sapientia. I enjoy hunting prey. My favorite food is mice. I like mice and am endlessly fascinated by anything quite small that moves at a fast pace.

One day when I retire, I hope to move to a large tree surrounded by trees where I can lie next to Hanover and play with his penis.

Oooooh... maybe there will be a Happy Ending after all?

Quoting Sapientia

One day when I retire, I hope to move to a large tree surrounded by trees where I can lie next to Hanover and play with his penis.

While disturbing, I do admire honesty in all its forms, even where it involves homosexual acts with a person who enjoys mice play.

Quoting Sapientia

I'm Sapientia. I enjoy hunting prey. My favorite food is mice. I like mice and am endlessly fascinated by anything quite small that moves at a fast pace.

I'm Tiff. I enjoy the wiring on my vehicles. It gets me where I need to go. I am looking for a Hawk for rodent control of the ranch. The last Owl is no longer whooing.

Quoting Hanover

While disturbing, I do admire honesty in all its forms, even where it involves homosexual acts with a person who enjoys mice play.

Psst Hanover, he likes to play with mice till they die and then he eats the mice. :-O

Quoting Sapientia

One day when I retire, I hope to move to a large tree surrounded by trees where I can lie next to Hanover and play with his penis.

Quoting ArguingWAristotleTiff

Psst Hanover, he likes to play with mice till they die and then he eats the mice

This doesn't bode well for Hanover's penis.

RIP
Fats Domino dead at 89.

Another great one left the world.

RIP Fats finally found his thrill, on Blueberry hill.....
First time I heard that song was on Happy Days~

Quoting Sir2u

Fats Domino dead at 89.

Since they seem to blame me for everything, if anyone asks, I was with you guys.

Quoting Hanover

Since they seem to blame me for everything, if anyone asks, I was with you guys.

Yeah, you, Sir and I were sitting with our backs against the wall, in the back of the bar with a clear line of sight to the front door and who should walk in but.....

I don't like winter.

I miss Winter. I'll trade you my 88* days for your cold weather.

How cold you want? >:)

Reply to Lone Wolf I'll take -40* please and you can take the +40*. Fair?

Give me life by caffeine and Death by Chocolate!!!

Happy Halloween!

Shhh... I'm right behind you!

Reply to ArguingWAristotleTiff LOL!! >:O

Reply to CasKev Eeeeeeeeeeek!! Cool costume! Are you a real Ninja? Because I see this creepy spider on the wall that you could take care of with your slick, kick Ninja moves!

Reply to Lone Wolf I have heard that coffee is the Nectar of the God's. I also heard their choice is a never ending Pina Colada with a straw long enough to reach his mouth as he relaxes in a hammock. True story

Reply to ArguingWAristotleTiff Haha. I have no idea what that means. :-O

Quoting Lone Wolf

I have no idea what that means. :-O

Tell her which part you don't understand, I'm sure she will explain in simple words. X-)

Reply to Sir2u Sure, sure. That way my poor exhausted brain can not understand that either. I'm probably the only one who doesn't get it. :’(

Reply to Lone Wolf The Pina Colada was a reference to a friend's writing about meeting God when he was out of it medically after having a heart attack. He was facing death boldly and writing about it as he did. Anyway the Chap had a grip on Philosophical humor that I have not come across since. He talks about leaving his body and walking around the clouds until he meets this casual chap, wearing board shorts and Ray Ban sunglasses, sipping on an never ending Pina Colada while he swings in a hammock. The author has a lot of questions for this man, beginning with what his name is to which the man answers, some call me God, others call me Allah and still others say I don't exist at all. The author asks if he can call the man "Sly" after Sylvester Stallone and the story continues.
I went looking for every place I can think of on the net where it could be without me digging out his book and copying his writing here but I will at some point because he really was an amazing thinker.
Cheers~

Reply to ArguingWAristotleTiff Ahhh, okay. That makes more sense now lol.

Reply to Lone Wolf You are too kind. I will take the time to copy it out of the book for it to make total sense but until then Cheers!

Reply to ArguingWAristotleTiff Okay, Thanks! :)

Heading North with my best friend for a night at her cabin in the woods. There won't be snow but we will be chilled into below 60*....brrrrrrrrr

@Sir2u Are you still around? My guess is yes but lurking because you are back in school teaching those that are following after us.
I am a Mom and can be blunt, it's like herding cats with a squirt gun! X-)

Reply to ArguingWAristotleTiff Brokeback Mountain female version?

Quoting Hanover

Brokeback Mountain female version?

Would it help your trying to envision us having a
A) pillow fight by the fire while roasting marshmallows for smores'
or
B) a picture of a TALL set of wooden stairs outside that needed a fresh coat of green paint, when one of us checked to see if it was dry, we found out it wasn't via the missing the first 10 stairs down and a slime of green paint from blonde head to toe.

Quoting ArguingWAristotleTiff

My guess is yes but lurking because you are back in school teaching those that are following after us.

Our school year starts in February and end in November so we are just about finished. Lucky me.


Quoting ArguingWAristotleTiff

it's like herding cats with a squirt gun! X-)

Bulls, like herding big stupid bulls and nowadays they can be just as dangerous. Kittens can be led or at least bribed to to things.

Quoting Sir2u

Our school year starts in February and end in November so we are just about finished. Lucky me.

And lucky us!

it's like herding cats with a squirt gun! X-) — ArguingWAristotleTiff
Quoting Sir2u

Bulls, like herding big stupid bulls and nowadays they can be just as dangerous. Kittens can be led or at least bribed to to things.

True! It gets to be a bit scary when the 8th graders are bigger than the teachers and out number them by 25 to one. :-O

She can't have her cake and eat it too. Especially when her cake is actually our cake!

Quoting CasKev

She can't have her cake and eat it too. Especially when her cake is actually our cake!

What cake?
Where the hell is it?
Who is trying to eat it?

Quoting Sir2u

What cake?
Where the hell is it?
Who is trying to eat it?

The Rum soaked carrot cake is on the window ledge cooling and after dinner WE can eat it.

Bleh. I don't like mornings. Actually, I don't like anything anymore.

Quoting Sir2u

What cake?
Where the hell is it?
Who is trying to eat it?

Ah, just venting... my ex is trying to move with my 2 daughters to a city 6 hours away. Pretty sure she won't be able to, but still causes unneeded stress. I currently live 5 minutes away, and see them over 80 times a year. She wants me to see them 12 times a year! >:o

Quoting Lone Wolf

Bleh. I don't like mornings. Actually, I don't like anything anymore

Awww come on Lone Wolf, mornings always go away. Who is that in your profile picture?

Reply to ArguingWAristotleTiff Yeah, then comes afternoons. Actually, I think I just like whining. That is Missy, my dog lol.

Quoting Lone Wolf

That is Missy, my dog lol.

White German Shepard?

Reply to ArguingWAristotleTiff Lol, just black and tan. Purebred too. :P She has a full brother, but I'm not sure if I have a pic of him on this computer, I'll check later!

Awww I cannot wait! Here is a picture of one of my pups
His name is Prince Bailey Von Reiseg. We call him Bailey and I call him my Bailey Boo....absolutely loveable~

Quoting CasKev

Ah, just venting... my ex is trying to move with my 2 daughters to a city 6 hours away. Pretty sure she won't be able to, but still causes unneeded stress. I currently live 5 minutes away, and see them over 80 times a year. She wants me to see them 12 times a year! >:o

I understand how you feel. Both of my EX's moved to other continents and I never got to see my kids.

{{{{{{Sir}}}}}}}<<< {{{{{Kev}}}}}}<<<

Reply to ArguingWAristotleTiff (Y) (Y)

Reply to ArguingWAristotleTiff Here is Mutty! He loves getting his tummy rubbed! :P
Bailey is super cute! (L) Is he Rottweiler?

@Lone Wolf What a beautiful smile Mutty! Bailey loves getting his tummy rubbed too!
Bailey is a Rottweiler and he is now 2.5 yrs old and he has a girlfriend Duchess also 2.5 who is a Dutch Shepard/Black Lab mix and make no doubt about it that she runs the ranch! Here is her selfie!

Reply to ArguingWAristotleTiff She is super cute too! (L)

Quoting Sir2u

I understand how you feel. Both of my EX's moved to other continents and I never got to see my kids.

Sorry to hear that. I can't imagine how that must feel...

Quoting ArguingWAristotleTiff

{{{{{Kev}}}}}}<<<

Thanks!

@Hanover
I was talking to my youngest Indian and said the phrase "Blood is thicker than water" and he said do you really know what you are saying? I said of course I do and explained what I did to you. To which he clarified for me that one of the meanings is "Blood is thicker than water" originally derived from the phrase "the blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb", implying that the ordinary meaning is the opposite of the original intention.

Reply to ArguingWAristotleTiff Did you ask him for his sources? X-)

Reply to ArguingWAristotleTiff I self censored my response because it had to do with the blood of the womb instead of water of the womb, and I've found from past discussions that jokes about menstrual blood have a fairly limited audience.

Quoting Sir2u

Did you ask him for his sources? X-)

Sir, he whips out his additional brain he carries in his pocket and will read it to me if necessary from unlimited sources if I ask. Nope, I openly admit he is beginning to give me a run for my money politically. EVERYTHING that is wrong with the planet is OUR fault. On one occasion he said "Thanks a lot for destroying the climate we have to live in and NOT believing in climate change" to which I tried on many occasions to explain how we have evolved but he never accepted it. So now he gets a snarky response like "Where the heck is my Aqua Net Hairspray?" laughing like a fool.
I cannot believe I am actually paying for this abuse!

Quoting Hanover

self censored my response because it had to do with the blood of the womb instead of water of the womb, and I've found from past discussions that jokes about menstrual blood have a fairly limited audience.

I cannot imagine how that would be the case. :P

For some strange reason, this morning isn't as bad as normal mornings. :-O

Quoting Lone Wolf

For some strange reason, this morning isn't as bad as normal mornings

8-) That Rocks!

Reply to ArguingWAristotleTiff :P Hopefully it stays okay for the rest of the day lol.

Quoting Lone Wolf

:P Hopefully it stays okay for the rest of the day lol.

I have faith it will be okay!

First visit with the lawyer today - wish me luck!!!

Reply to CasKev Good luck!

Reply to ArguingWAristotleTiff Haha, thanks. I survive the day, but barely. :-O I seriously thought I was going to die today. I completely lost control of my plane, so very thankful my instructor bailed me out there. :-O

Yaaaaaaaaaay!! You survived yesterday and I am sure you learned a lot while you lost control for a bit but you knew enough to have someone with you to give you a hand up when you spin out. It happens as we learn and if it didn't happen yesterday with your instructor with you, the day would have ended a lot differently. So take stock in yourself, for when we lose control AND gain it back, EVEN with help, we earn an internal merit badge as we have faced a fear that we probably knew we had but would never have faced without that fluke of circumstances.

Where are you going to fly on your first solo trip and are you taking Mutty or Missy with you? 8-)

Are you aware of my absolute crush on Tom Cruise as a result of Top Gun? OMGGGGGG!

Reply to ArguingWAristotleTiff Haha, yeah, yesterday was the first time I actually panicked in the air. I'm not sure who was more surprised at my reaction, me or my instructor. lol. One way or another, I'm not going to allow myself to respond in that way again!! :-O But hey, after that, I almost perfected the cross-wind landing technique. 8-)
Hmm, I don't think Missy or Mutty would much appreciate my flying capability yet. :P Well, actually, I have been up several times alone, but just around the airport and local areas. Haven't got to a longer trip yet, but that's coming up soon.

Haha, no I didn't know that. :P At least he's not a crop duster. :-O Some of them are wicked wild, AND DON'T USE THEIR RADIOS!!! >:o Very annoying, lol.
Do you fly too?

Quoting Lone Wolf

Haha, yeah, yesterday was the first time I actually panicked in the air. I'm not sure who was more surprised at my reaction, me or my instructor. lol. One way or another, I'm not going to allow myself to respond in that way again!! :-O But hey, after that, I almost perfected the cross-wind landing technique. 8-)

Ta da!!!!! Well done, well done! (Y)

Quoting Lone Wolf

Hmm, I don't think Missy or Mutty would much appreciate my flying capability yet. :P Well, actually, I have been up several times alone, but just around the airport and local areas. Haven't got to a longer trip yet, but that's coming up soon.

I guess the pups couldn't stick their heads out the windows like in the car so maybe they should stay on the ground, for now. ;)

Quoting Lone Wolf

Haha, no I didn't know that. :P At least he's not a crop duster. :-O Some of them are wicked wild, AND DON'T USE THEIR RADIOS!!! >:o Very annoying, lol.
Do you fly too?

Those crop dusters are annoying for the way they fly AND the pesticides they use!

No, I don't fly but my youngest son is a Freshman at Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University studying Simulation Science and he doesn't fly either but we have planes in a LOT of aspects of our lives and my youngest has a HUGE interest in the study of birds. I have tried to get him to see the correlation in his interests and he just wont give on it yet. I have to believe that Mr. Embry and Mr. Riddle along with the Wright brothers studied the mechanics of birds in order to figure out how to fly, right?
Are you going for a commercial license?

Quoting ArguingWAristotleTiff

Ta da!!!!! Well done, well done! (Y)

haha, thanks!
Quoting ArguingWAristotleTiff

No, I don't fly but my youngest son is a Freshman at Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University studying Simulation Science and he doesn't fly either but we have planes in a LOT of aspects of our lives and my youngest has a HUGE interest in the study of birds. I have tried to get him to see the correlation in his interests and he just won't give on it yet. I have to believe that Mr. Embry and Mr. Riddle along with the Wright brothers studied the mechanics of birds in order to figure out how to fly, right?
Are you going for a commercial license?

That is very neat! Hope they both do well in their studies! :)
Not as of right now, just aiming for a Private Pilot. Maybe an instrument rating in the future, but not sure yet. :P

Quoting Lone Wolf

Not as of right now, just aiming for a Private Pilot. Maybe an instrument rating in the future, but not sure yet. :P

Keep on pushing yourself and you are going to rock that Private license. Where in the world are you located?

Reply to ArguingWAristotleTiff The States. :P

Quoting Lone Wolf

The States. :P

Well hello my fellow American! Happy Veterans Day!

Reply to ArguingWAristotleTiff :) Same to you!

Quoting ArguingWAristotleTiff

I have to believe that Mr. Embry and Mr. Riddle along with the Wright brothers studied the mechanics of birds in order to figure out how to fly, right?

https://youtu.be/8y3fIr4dVYE

@HanoverQuoting ArguingWAristotleTiff

I have to believe that Mr. Embry and Mr. Riddle along with the Wright brothers studied the mechanics of birds in order to figure out how to fly, right?

I get a kick out of watching black and white films like this, watching humans try to simulate those things around us that we are "not" and try to make it so humans "can". It is almost like have always lacked being content with who we are and must try to be something we are not.

@Sir2u What are your plans for Thanksgiving?

Reply to ArguingWAristotleTiff

Not planning on doing anything really. We had a couple of friends from the US that lived near by that used to invite us over to eat but they left the area.

It is not really celebrated down here except as a way to get people to buy stuff and go to restaurants.

Quoting Sir2u

We had a couple of friends from the US that lived near by that used to invite us over to eat but they left the area.

Well you and the Mrs. are most welcome at our Thanksgiving table.

Quoting ArguingWAristotleTiff

Well you and the Mrs. are most welcome at our Thanksgiving table.

Going out to the road side and hitching a ride. Be there ......, errr, damn that won't work.

Thank you for the invitation, but it might have to be next year. Looks fantastic.

Quoting Sir2u

Thank you for the invitation, but it might have to be next year. Looks fantastic.

You are quite welcome! I wish I could pull up a chair to the table in the picture but that is just an inspiration to my figuring out how to host 20+ here at the ranch. Enough In laws that we might need name tags, true story.
To share with you, this will likely be the Last Thanksgiving at the Ranch as we are getting it ready for sale in the Spring so we can move North in Arizona. We are attempting to reinvest the money from the sale of the ranch, into a place where we can have at least one rental unit and room for more expansion. The move will save us 10k a year for the next three years as our youngest is in college and we are looking to move to his town. Freshman year they are required to live on campus but after that, they can live off and hence our home.
So Cheers to you and your Mrs. and Thank you for being here thru the decades. 8-)

Reply to ArguingWAristotleTiff
Don't make no difference where you live in the world, you will always be just around the corner on the internet.
Best of luck with the sale.

Quoting Sir2u

Don't make no difference where you live in the world, you will always be just around the corner on the internet.

And that my friend is a beautiful and true thought~

Quoting Sir2u

Best of luck with the sale.

Thank you Sir~

3 days till Turkey day.
My best friend felt I was down and treated me to a hair cut and color! She is such a beautiful person both inside and out.
Here is a quick pic at the haircutters house as I have Rotties and that Cat tower would be down and paraded around the paddock like a prize!

Reply to ArguingWAristotleTiff

Lookin' good. :) (Y)

Reply to ArguingWAristotleTiff

You look great. Hairstyles haven't been something I've been able to pull off well since I went bald. Sweet cat tree.

@Baden@Wosret
Thank you, you guys are very kind~ I feel old but for 2.5 yrs shy of 50 (OMG :-O ) I am feeling good about where I am~

Reply to ArguingWAristotleTiff (Y) (Y) X-)

@Sir2u
The sun isn't up but I have been up for hours. I have yet to get any response to my getting out of town after this weekend from either NicK or my Mother In Law and since by nature I am a person who believes in asking for permission rather than asking for forgiveness, I remain in limbo. Having said that NicK believes in asking for forgiveness, rather than permission.
What I am trying to say, is that I NEED someone to GIVE me permission, to get the flock outta town but only an hour away. I will be taking the Casino bus that happens to run the same route, $10 bucks for a ride both ways and $25 in Casino credit for me to gamble with.

[quote=Tiff]What I am trying to say, is that I NEED someone to GIVE me permission[/quote]

I am not sure I should be doing this, but as long as Nick keeps his guns in the holsters I say go for it. X-)

And take a hundred at least, no one can gamble with $25.

Quoting Sir2u

I am not sure I should be doing this, but as long as Nick keeps his guns in the holsters I say go for it.

Yes! ~doing my happy dance~ 8-)

Yippeee! I am heading North tomorrow morning! Yaaaaaaaaaaaaay!! I need to immerse myself in the forest for a long time to wring out the stress of these past three weeks. My girlfriend has her fist Christmas tree up at their new cabin so I need to find the perfect ornament to bring as cabin warmer tomorrow. Oh and I looked at the Casino Shuttle pick up yesterday and it looks like I will be the youngest human on board so wish me a safe ride and I'll use a few of my betting dollars on "your" pull. Who knows? We might win a boatload of money! There is always a chance.... (Y)

Quoting ArguingWAristotleTiff

Who knows? We might win a boatload of money! There is always a chance.... (Y)

And any way you are helping the economy to grow by spending your money. Service sector jobs are important!

Quoting ssu

And any way you are helping the economy to grow by spending your money.

That's wrong. The economy doesn't grow because of consumption, it grows because of production. Consumption is destructive of the value that is created actually. So only if that money goes towards a productive activity that creates value, only then does the economy grow.

Reply to Agustino Hey! You can't post in this thread! Shooo!

Quoting Agustino

That's wrong. The economy doesn't grow because of consumption, it grows because of production.

I'm pretty sure that Tiff won't be using money that is debt, but that her hard earned savings. (Or I assume that is the case)

A job in the service sector does grow the economy just like a job in a factory. If Tiff helps people be employed by casinos, that's great.

Quoting Lone Wolf

Hey! You can't post in this thread! Shooo!

:'O

Quoting ssu

I'm pretty sure that Tiff won't be using money that is debt, but that her hard earned savings. (Or I assume that is the case)

That's irrelevant.

Quoting ssu

A job in the service sector does grow the economy just like a job in a factory. If Tiff helps people be employed by casinos, that's great.

:s - a job that doesn't produce anything useful, but merely involves consumption of goods that others produce isn't useful to the economy. Quite the contrary - take a job in financial speculation on Wall Street for instance.

There is a false idea going around that spending and consumption are key to the growth of the economy. More than anything, that's a manipulation of the stupid public to encourage consumerism so that at least some of the people who produce useful things can get that money. It would be better if instead of consumption, those people invested part of that money in production.

Reply to Agustino I mean it!! :-O

5 hours left till I am Northward bound!
(L)

Quoting Agustino

a job that doesn't produce anything useful, but merely involves consumption of goods that others produce isn't useful to the economy. Quite the contrary - take a job in financial speculation on Wall Street for instance.

There is a false idea going around that spending and consumption are key to the growth of the economy. More than anything, that's a manipulation of the stupid public to encourage consumerism so that at least some of the people who produce useful things can get that money. It would be better if instead of consumption, those people invested part of that money in production.

Sorry, but you don't make sense.

Invest in what production? To whom is something produced? Spending and consumption are just the other side of the coin to production. As if production itself wouldn't be the essential part of consumerism. And if you produce a service that others want, well what on Earth is so bad about it compared to some manufactured gadget?

Fact: the biggest proportion of World GDP is made by the service sector. In every Western country the Service sector is the largest when measured by GDP (and likely By any indicator). In the US the Service Sector makes nearly 80% of the GDP. The smallest service sectors you find in poor Third World countries and Saudi-Arabia, which basically is totally financed by oil production.

Quoting ssu

And if you produce a service that others want, well what on Earth is so bad about it compared to some manufactured gadget?

Even though Arizona is known for it's 5 C's cattle, climate, cotton, copper and citrus, I would suggest that the biggest generator of revenue is tourism. Arizona is a year round destination and our hospitality and tourism industry is HUGE. We VERY much depend on people from around the world wanting to come to Arizona and spend their money lavishly on themselves. There are very few states in December that you can snow ski and water ski all in the same day. The older population (usually the well to do) come out for the weather and stay because of the lower cost of living and the amazing medical facilities. Whether a snowbird or a transplant, we depend on their consumption to survive and thrive.

Quoting ssu

And if you produce a service that others want, well what on Earth is so bad about it compared to some manufactured gadget?

That is production, why does it matter that you produce a service or a manufactured gadget? Cleaning services, etc. have practical and productive effects in society. Financial speculation, gambling, etc.? Not so much.

What happens if you grow consumption too much is that your economy actually shrinks. Consumption grows, supposing Investments remain the same, government spending remains the same, then your trade balance will decrease. Growth in consumption without simultaneous growth in production is actually harmful. Why do you think the USA has a negative trade balance with China for example, of around $300 billion?

So consumption grows by $10 dollars, if your government spending remains the same, and your investments remain the same, then where is that consumption going? Towards imports, of course. That's a financial weakness, not a strength. Read, for example, something like this.

@Agustino
So what you are saying is that eventually AZ will eat itself alive?

Quoting ArguingWAristotleTiff

So what you are saying is that eventually AZ will eat itself alive?

No, I wasn't saying anything with regards to you in particular or AZ in particular (I don't know much about AZ haha). Was just talking a theoretical issue with ssu :P .

Reply to Agustino Here I thought I was actually understanding what you were saying. :-}

Quoting ArguingWAristotleTiff

Here I thought I was actually understanding what you were saying. :-}

I was correcting a general assumption that people make, namely that spending is good for the economy or virtuous. That's not necessarily true. How this is applied to your own particular situation I do not know, because I haven't thought about your case in detail.

On my way back to the ranch. Pine trees, Pecan trees, horses and a beautiful person to spend a couple of days unwinding with. Waiting for me at the ranch is Nick, my puppies and my Mother in law. Monday will make it 4 weeks she has been in her Van down by the river. The time for a change in location is overdue. I need the seasons back in my life. (L)

Quoting ArguingWAristotleTiff

On my way back to the ranch. Pine trees, Pecan trees, horses and a beautiful person to spend a couple of days unwinding with.

Sounds divine :D

So glad it is Friday!! Only have to risk getting yelled at this morning at work, and then I can start dreading my next flight lesson!!

[quote=Tiff]I need the seasons back in my life. [/quote]

Here you go, hope you like them.

@Sir2u Not exactly what I had in mind but a LOT easier to shovel! ;)

Brrrrrrrr it's a chilly 68* and we are in jackets, gloves and hats!

Naughty or nice?

Naughty.

Reply to Lone Wolf Me too! Merry Christmas Lone Wolf~

This is the writing on the Wall.

Reply to ArguingWAristotleTiff Thanks! You too!

@Lone Wolf Thank you!

Quoting charleton

This is the writing on the Wall.

What does it say charleton?

Reply to ArguingWAristotleTiff
"This is the LAST WORD"

Quoting charleton

"This is the LAST WORD"

There must be a mistake there because these words come after the LAST WORD.

Mwhahaha. You all must remain silent from here on. >:) Stuff your mouths with cookies and candy, and you all shall be happily silent.

Quoting Lone Wolf

Mwhahaha. You all must remain silent from here on. >:)

Say that with a Pakistani accent.

Quoting Lone Wolf

Stuff your mouths with cookies and candy, and you all shall be happily silent.

And I suppose that we can send the bills to you for this.

Quoting Sir2u

Say that with a Pakistani accent.

Lol, closest I know is Israeli. :P

Quoting Sir2u

And I suppose that we can send the bills to you for this.

Nah, send it to the big guy up north.

Quoting Lone Wolf

Nah, send it to the big guy up north.

Shucks, no candy then. Gonna keep on talkin.

Reply to Sir2u No because I already had
THE LAST WORDS

Reply to charleton Could you explain just how that is possible, I see a lot of words after your posts.

Reply to Sir2u
What
last words

Reply to charleton Yeah, those were the words that had other words written after them.

@charletonWhat were the last words you are thinking of?

Reply to ArguingWAristotleTiff these last words

Reply to charleton Surely you can come up with better "last words" then two of the words contained within the title of the thread. If I were your English teacher and that was your definition of the "last word", I would make you stay after school and try to think up at least two different last words than last words.
Got any last words? 8-)

Quoting ArguingWAristotleTiff

Got any last words?

Ultima palabra.

Last word in Spanish. :D

Reply to Sir2u There are no better words than last words.

?( ?° ???°)=?/????/’?’? ? Last words!

I am right and you are wrong! :D

Quoting charleton

There are no better words than last words.

You are very confused, for without first words there can be no last words. So first words are the best.

Quoting Sir2u

Last word in Spanish.

Sir, I want my last words to be "What does this button do?"
Any idea what you want your last words to be? :D

Quoting bahman

I am right and you are wrong!

I have a 50/50 chance at getting this right but are you a male? :P

Quoting ArguingWAristotleTiff

Any idea what you want your last words to be? :D

"Not working today."

I think that about covers it. :)

Quoting Purple Pond

?( ?° ???°)=?/????/’?’? ? Last words!

I love it! Keyboard art? If it is it is fantastic but know now that guns can be a very hot topic around here. ;)

Reply to Sir2u lololol Love it!

Quoting ArguingWAristotleTiff

I am right and you are wrong!
— bahman

I have a 50/50 chance at getting this right but are you a male? :P

Yes, I am. How about you?

Reply to bahman Nope. I am all female 8-) Most folks know me as super nice but I'll let you in on a secret, just between you and me, okay? When I get up in the morning the Devil himself asks: Is that bitch awake already?
It is a pleasure to meet you~ :D

Quoting ArguingWAristotleTiff

Nope. I am all female 8-) Most folks know me as super nice but I'll let you in on a secret, just between you and me, okay? When I get up in the morning the Devil himself asks: Is that bitch awake already?

I am dealing with Devils and Angles too. :D

Quoting ArguingWAristotleTiff

It is a pleasure to meet you~ :D

It is a pleasure to meet you too. :)

Quoting bahman

I am dealing with Devils and Angles too. :D

I can usually get mine to play nicely but I have my moments. Where are you from?

Quoting ArguingWAristotleTiff

Where are you from?

I am from Iran. How about you?

Quoting bahman

I am from Iran. How about you?

Chicago born and raised. Living in the Desert Southwest now. Where are you living now?

Quoting ArguingWAristotleTiff

Chicago born and raised. Living in the Desert Southwest now. Where are you living now?

I moved around the world. I was born in Tehran and am living in Tehran right now.

Quoting bahman

I moved around the world. I was born in Tehran and am living in Tehran right now.

It is interesting to take in views from around the world here in the forum, it takes a degree of vulnerability but the pay off is invaluable. (L)

Quoting ArguingWAristotleTiff

It is interesting to take in views from around the world here in the forum, it takes a degree of vulnerability but the pay off is invaluable. (L)

I am a physicist but always loved philosophy. I highly hope that my contribution is useful. (L)

How long is my Mother In Law going to stay here?? :s
I better just :-x

Anyone have some cheerful advice for a dad facing the possible relocation of his daughters?

I think the odds are very much in my favor, given that the children's best interests is the main factor considered by the courts, but the thought of losing consistent quality contact with them is quite distressing nonetheless.

Reply to CasKev Wherever they go, you go.

She is still here. Working on month 3. :-O

Happy, Happy, Happy Day, I am getting to go away! (Y)
Not till Tuesday but up to my girlfriends cabin in the mountains and THIS time I get to drive MY own car instead of taking the Casino bus. Woot Woot!! 8-)

Who is grumpy?

Reply to Lone Wolf Me me me! :-O

Reply to Agustino I've already told you that you can't post in this thread! This is an Agu free zone! So shoo! :P

Quoting Lone Wolf

I've already told you that you can't post in this thread! This is an Agu free zone! So shoo! :P

That seems to be a trump style discriminatory statement. Are you some kind of "ist", racist, sexist, aguist? :-O

Reply to Sir2u Nah. >:) I just like to tease him.

As a fairly new member of this forum community, I'd like to briefly interject to make an observation:

You guys are weird.

Carry on.

Reply to JustSomeGuy Thank you. It means a lot to me.

Quoting JustSomeGuy

Carry on.

Quoting JustSomeGuy

You guys are weird.

No no, it's just Agustino. We take pity on him by making him believe he is our resident mascot. He has a bad lisp and one leg longer than the other, so give him a break OK.

I ate a pickle.

Quoting TimeLine

No no, it's just Agustino. We take pity on him by making him believe he is our resident mascot. He has a bad lisp and one leg longer than the other, so give him a break OK.

You forgot about my teeny tiny cute ears that you can't get out of your mind :-O

Is your cucumber bitter? Then throw it away.

Said Marcus Aurelius.

Quoting Posty McPostface

I ate a pickle.

Is that a phallic Freudian slip or something?

Quoting Posty McPostface

Is your cucumber bitter? Then throw it away.

Said Marcus Aurelius.

How can you throw it away?

Reply to TimeLine

It was salty, that is all.

Quoting Posty McPostface

It was salty, that is all.

Reply to Agustino Here is the quote.

Is your cucumber bitter? Throw it away. Are there briars in your path? Turn aside. That is enough. Do not go on and say, "Why were things of this sort ever brought into this world?" neither intolerable nor everlasting - if thou bearest in mind that it has its limits, and if thou addest nothing to it in imagination. Pain is either an evil to the body (then let the body say what it thinks of it!)-or to the soul. But it is in the power of the soul to maintain its own serenity and tranquility. . . .

Quoting Posty McPostface

Are there briars in your path? Turn aside. That is enough. Do not go on and say, "Why were things of this sort ever brought into this world?" neither intolerable nor everlasting - if thou bearest in mind that it has its limits, and if thou addest nothing to it in imagination. Pain is either an evil to the body (then let the body say what it thinks of it!)-or to the soul. But it is in the power of the soul to maintain its own serenity and tranquility. . . .

But what if I'm an ambitious fellow, and I want to get those briars outta my path?

Reply to Agustino

Your cucumber must be bitter.

Reply to TimeLine Horse riding?

Quoting Posty McPostface

Your cucumber must be bitter.

Is bitterness the same as ambition?

Quoting Agustino

Horse riding?

Vat?