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Of course, B, persons (I like 'people' in this context, cuz that's how persons actually talk.) As you seem to be inching toward the recognition that p...

AC is responding to passages like I think he exaggerates the tension. I read W as making general points about language and belief that he expects to r...

I wanted to find a 'salute' emoji, but no luck. I'd be glad to hear any thoughts you have on that quote. It's rich!

. I think you are taking your language too much granted. I think you mean https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/prescribe Here's the WHO 'laying ...

What's this gap between the system and the foundations? IMV, it's more like the system is the foundation of inherited, shared practices (in this conte...

I can relate to annoying certain instructors with philosophical questions. I didn't major in philosophy, probably because (then as now) I saw it large...

I think I agree. It's as if we know how to say that we know that something is such-and-such. I totally agree that facility with 'know' is part of a la...

I think this is the tender-minded thing. There's also the tedious anglo-versus-continental thing. I got around to Hegel because so many thinkers I alr...

I'd look at 'knowing' in terms of the highly complicated role it (the word) plays socially. Intuitively, there's a private 'sensation' of being sure, ...

I think the big version of the Logic will be like the smaller version (which overall I liked, without grasping all of it or needing to.)

I don't dispute something like archetypes or biological inheritance, but I had something far more ordinary in mind. I'm talking about us both speaking...

:clap: Love that joke!

I like to think that we foolosophers can sometimes manage to be ontological and not just ontic (which is maybe what you meant?). The 'sociality of rea...

I looked into Nishida back when I was making sense of Stirner. This intro is nice approximation of what I make of Hegel, Feuerbach, Heidegger, Wittgen...

I'd like to hear more about that.

This quote seems relevant. Here's another one that really drags the philosophical fantasy into the light. The fantasy seems to be some place outside o...

Nice! From what I remember, Peirce is aware that this community is a kind of heavenly fiction. He makes the important point that science (well, inquir...

For me the issue is not that Heidegger has nothing in mind when he says the nothing nothings. I do expect him to go somewhere with this strange rhetor...

Fair enough. And I think one can get "Heidegger's" insights elsewhere. It's the same with Jung. To me it's more about the 'chemical reaction' of a rea...

Thanks! I had a feeling we were on the same page.

There's nothing strange (or at least nothing out of the ordinary) about a community subjecting current norms to assessment. We have lots of norms, mor...

Yes, or a point-at-infinity. For Peirce, inquity is about settling beliefs. What's true for this ideal, future community is just reality itself (becau...

One way of looking at things: hinge propositions are context dependent. In a given inquiry, there's a framework taken for granted in which the explici...

I agree. Or it's buffoonish to solemnly and pompously drop phrases like 'the nothing itself noths.' Nevertheless, Heidegger could and did do much bett...

FWIW, I think refuting the skeptic is just a pretext. The radical skeptic is not a serious person. I don't think refuting radical skepticism is experi...

Good point! And we might say that one society is deluded from the perspective of another. I don't 100% buy Peirce's vision of inquiry, but there's som...

Exactly, and while you are expressing doubts about those previous meanings, you nevertheless enact confidence in the intelligibly of this current expr...

FWIW (responding to Grayling), I think the most potent beliefs aren't explicit at all. I use language with the confidence of a squirrel leaping from t...

No single one of us can make a norm, but the community as a whole can and does. Less obviously, no single one of us can even conform to a norm. A norm...

That sounds right, and then he got it from somewhere, which is support for the idea itself, I guess.

Agreed. That sounds right, and the issue here ('sensibly') is intelligibility. I second that, and I also read OC somewhat in terms of trying to free e...

Excellent question!

Here's another perspective on that: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/19322/19322-h/19322-h.htm <emph added>

That seems reasonable. Perhaps what makes Jung stand out is a self-consciousness about the process (or perhaps his lingo is just easier for us.) I fou...

I like 19th century philosophy, and again and again I find talk of something like 'spiritual 'maturity manifested through participation in intellectua...

That doesn't sound quite right to me. Perhaps you could find some quotes to support your interpretation? I can only go by translations, but I find it ...

That also makes sense. I think it was William James who said we are sad because we cry (and not the reverse.) Also the hands of the clock come to mind...

I found another nice Jung quote which I think fits with the OP, at least thematically. It's Jung paraphrasing/assimilating James I find this to be a r...

That sounds like a tough but meaningful job. I have some personal experience with addiction and mental illness (a troubled in-law, who didn't make it....

Here's what I'd consider an off-putting Heidegger quote: http://www.stephenhicks.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/heideggerm-what-is-metaphysics.pdf I t...

FWIW (not much to some, surely) here's what I'd consider an old-timey version of a Wittgensteinian-flavored insight about our 'extimate' minds. Or rat...

Yes, that would be something like the very first step. I also recall J P talking about a craving for responsibility in alienated young men, which seem...

FWIW, Hegel's lectures are pretty clear. He also gave some great public speeches. https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/hegel/works/1818/inaugura...

Hi, all. I read a decent chunk of Jung in my 20s, having first checked out Freud, and as a somewhat newly confirmed atheist who didn't like woo-woo bu...

Thanks! FWIW, I think B does recognize the 'objectivity' of morals but just won't grok an impersonal source like... just-all-of-us (including ancestor...

Humans enforce, discuss , and modify human norms. I don't think this is controversial. Just read the latest WaPo. Because things are prescribed and pr...

I care about reason but not so much about Reason, so I'll leave you to it.

Is mysticism really seen as such a great thing in philosophers? by philosophers? Heidegger is not just resented for his swastika but also for his styl...

I'll trust the appropriate scientists to figure that out, but it's not as if we don't see have other social primates to look at. I recommend Monkey Th...

It's true that norms != laws, though clearly they are related. In a complex democracy, individuals will disagree. Some groups will thing some laws unj...