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The relevant part of the OP is this: What does 'factually' intolerable mean? It means that people don't tolerate it. How do people demonstrate that th...

So (first) you disagree with the OP on the most essential level, then (second) opine that the stuff other people have posted has no real bearing on th...

It's easy to register a complaint. What do you want to do about it?

So are you saying our present system should change, or that it should stay the same, bc it works as well as Georgian slavery did, and slavery worked f...

I can't speak for Un, but I did (& I think Un did too, since his response explicitly drew from it.) & for Georgian slaves too? Do you find this situat...

Oh stahhhp. Your post was contrarian and you know it. I'm as interested as you are. ....like slavery.

OED is kind of the gold standard, isn't it? I didn't cherry-pick, that was literally the first definition I looked up. I appreciate that you don't lik...

So I like the calculus metaphor. I first encountered in about 8 years ago, and I can't say I totally understand it, but I think I get what it's drivin...

Does it apply 10 years before the civil war? Or did it never apply? And if didn't apply, ever, then why didn't the slaves emancipate themselves earlie...

Is it? Do you agree this applies to the US plantation system before emancipation?

It doesn't need to be immortal. A comet could hit earth.

Yes, I do understand that. What I'm saying is that what makes Ollie Ollie is not that the Necessary and the Accidental have produced this very being. ...

But all of history testifies to no set of institutions ever remaining stable, because things are intolerable, and the argument fails all over again.

I did not expect to like him this much at all. tbh, when I started this thread, before I started reading (beyond the first section) I saw him more as ...

Know I'm replying late, but: I'm not saying that though. I feel like the thing-in-itself would have to bootstrap at some level. What I'm saying is tha...

Fake News

I don't disagree with that, I just don't necessarily buy that Advertising's subconscious plugging-in has deeply amplified dissatisfaction. ( Because I...

It really does read like an impressionistic mash-up of cliche talking points. "But all you need now is an iPhone. Everyone can publish their opinion."...

I disagree. Determine is defined by the Oxford English Dictionary thus: "Ascertain or establish exactly by research or calculation" & Ascertain is def...

Not equation but seeing guarantee as a necessary condition of determining - but I'm glad to drop determine and replace it with guarantee.

He says it at the end of the first section (An Ambiguity in Sense Data Theories.) It's the 'unfortunate, but familiar, line of thought' + the paragrap...

Ok, got you. This is why I think it's not a contradiction (while bracketing the legitimate questions of whether there are other problems with the acco...

How does that differ from what I posted, which you said is not what you meant?

Yeah, I understand that you're skeptical, but I'm trying to understand why you're skeptical. I provided my interepretation of why, based on what you'd...

Could you point to where I'm misreading you, or possibly re-phrase what you were saying? I'm just trying to pinpoint the exact source of our disagreem...

That's fine - I too could do with some citations or examples early on - but I think he provides ample historical evidence to support his claims (about...

Before going further, I want to back up to the beginning of this thread of argumentation: I want to make sure I understand what you were saying here. ...

Yes, I agree that idealism is not solipsism. There are all sorts of ways to bring other minds in.

Yeah? if every phenomenon is unilaterally determined by the experiencer, how does another experiencer intervene?

@"Baden" So I hear you on the freudian tit-for-tat. My point, though, is that, if any one us wants to see ourselves as not enchained to simplistic psy...

My two cents is un's point demolishes the argument cited in the op entirely. There's nothing more to say. If i were to do a film treatment of The argu...

If each 'phenomenal world' is entirely dependent on its 'experiencer' then this kind of causal interaction is impossible. And if each 'phenomenal worl...

Yes, I think so, but then (if you're of a certain bent) it becomes a question of whether its a sturdy foundation. I think ultimately it actually is a ...

right, but then the idea of veridicality is going to be incoherent as well - if you can't understand the one, you can't understand the other. You woul...

Sure, so long as he has a different explanation of what seems like non-veridical experience (e.g. perhaps he'll have an explanation like the one TGW m...

I think the answer to this is pretty straightforward. They've experienced something that seemed to be one way, but was actually another. Non-veridical...

Yes, I think Sellars says something similar. To sense a red triangle is to know that triangle as red.

Any way you slice it, the 'figure' of the sense-datum theorist, in Sellars' essay, is seeking foundational experiences - experiences which, unlike oth...

So let's take Pavlov. You take a stimulus that elicits some reaction and place it in conjunction with something else. Food and a bell. The dog is alwa...

But if there's no Fall in human history, as you agree, then : (Contented man - Advertisting & Discontent - Shopping) isn't a very useful way to think ...

Ok, but nothing in the post you quoted has anything to do with whether applying the scientific method to the human psyche is effective, productive, or...

@"The Great Whatever" That's fair. Then realist assumptions themselves would be a reaction - a theoretical reaction - to disappointment. But, then, ve...

Also, by the by, I don't know how much everyone's read ahead, but Sellars is super clever (I think the dude's actually internalized his Hegel. Was any...

Another way to put this is that the very idea of a necessarily veridical class can only be a backwards projection by someone who has experienced non-v...

I think the key is to focus on why Sellars' sense theorist is honing in on this special class. For these theorists, its meant as an solution to a prob...

Sorry man. Understanding what someone believes is not understanding why they believe it. If you don't already understand this, no one can explain it t...

Ok, sure, if you want to split absolutely inconsequential semantic hairs, I'll grant you that. This kind of thing doesn't further conversation whatsoe...

Also, regarding Ollie. So yes, an intersection of the accidental and the necessary, sure. But, then (s)he isn't just the intersection of the Accidenta...