I think that's the best way to approach it, yeah, but It's true that in my last post I was only speaking for myself, rather than for others interested...
My own take is that "idealism" shouldn't be the final stance one arrives at - its more like a bottleneck. If we try to imagine an apple, but leave out...
I mean - they would mean what they say. I don't know how else to meet a 'nuh uh' but with a 'yes huh'. In any case, whatever your feelings on idealism...
An idealist could also say that in eating an apple, they're eating a particular object. In fact, I think most would. Let me put in this way, drawing o...
@"S" @"Janus" I think I'm more or less on the same page here. It seems weird to say that meaning is somehow injected, through intention, into an objec...
That's a lot of pressure to put on your poems. If you see it that way - if someone were to criticize one of your poems, then they would be threatening...
Yeah, I totally agree that such a thing almost certainly would never happen. But I think it's enough to drive a wedge, and hopefully draw something ou...
But what is the 'phenomenon' here? Say someone reads the meaningless text, is moved by it, and so transcribes it, creating an identical text. Then the...
@"S" This may have already been mentioned, but what about unintentionally produced marks that seem to have meaning but don't. Borges' library of Babel...
Yeah, I can understand how this could be confusing. Let me expand a little, with reference to this : As I understand it, the common thread linking the...
Ah ok, but I don't think it's the same logic behind each example. Some things are their expression. Pain is the canonical example. And a mashed potato...
Trying to parse the op: A mashed potato is a potato that's been physically modified. We can express (a very specific meaning of express) an orange to ...
I think one approach that could be helpful - and this is why I was bristly about the origin question - is to move away from overly-tidy constructions ...
Alright, I've vented my weekly spleen, and I'll admit that it is an interesting and worthwhile topic. I wouldn't know where to begin though. It seems ...
Alright, so, bracketing genesis, and given that a language exists --- a set of rules is a set of rules. Ontologically? I guess the being of a set of r...
Am I dense for focusing on the text of the OP rather than the title? All the 'ontology' here is bound up with 'origins.' There's no mystery here. That...
I am rarely sincere, or direct on here. So this won't sound like it's either of those things.It will sound rhetorical. It isn't, but I can't prove tha...
Why not play slow and tight with your words, instead of putting them out there in a way that almost guarantees misinterpretation? I think you meant ex...
Monologue from Trainspotting: It's in the same genre as your post. It's also, in a modified form (the gormless bachelor, rather than the complacent su...
It's Trainspotting, or a Houellebecq novel - both of which are filled to the gills with sex, or obsession with it. It's also ecclesiastes. That's what...
This thread seems as good a place as any to bring this up. Been thinking about this for a while. There's a way of talking about idealism that most of ...
Alright, but I'm having trouble seeing anything essentially new in what you've introduced via Von Hartmann. It seems like it's just a cipher for: ther...
Well, yes, but it's a broad question. Many differences, many similarities. Isn't the essential characteristic of will that it is in-itself one, but pr...
It leaves us where we've always been doesn't it? Appetite can take all forms, and the appetite for 'wisdom' of this sort is itself as vain as anything...
It depends on what's meant by the term 'philosophy.' Logical positivism, for example, seemed relatively unconcerned with the problems of living. And, ...
'can be constructed either way' One part of me - the sensitive, sad - really wants this to be true. Another part - the agonistic, eristic - doesn't. T...
Oops, fixed that, attributed now. It's from the OP and seems to be laid out there as a kind of foundation for the rest of the discussion. Edit: Oh, th...
The same way apes invented humans, agreed on their traits, and then started being them? Why does the genesis of english seem this way to you? Most (al...
Self-care seems really important to me, but I'm not very good at it. I also think virtue ethics seems like the most excellent kind of of ethics. I'm m...
Yeah, in the book its a tribal suicide. The context is pretty complicated & its been a decade since I read it - but as I recall, its something like a ...
It also calls to mind canto VII of the Inferno. Here's John Ciardi's gloss on the "sullen" in the fifth circle: On a more sympathetic note, you might ...
Tangetial, but definitely related (I think.) Its interesting that when Wittgenstein is introduced in a conversation, its rarely to reference a formal ...
That said, there is a danger here. Shame and the need for self-respect can be weaponized by skilled manipulators, who use people's moral sense against...
Well we don't need to tell others what to do, mostly. But if we find our lives intertwined with theirs, sharing some moral situation - I think we'd ap...
To play devil's advocate (and part of this devil's in me) : Sure but what about SLAVERY? Lot of firm intutions there as well, self-evident to some as ...
Aren't Wittgenstein's therapeutics or 'bedrock' the paradigmatic targets of 'too easily satisfied' responses? But I'm serious. What more can be added?...
Closer to that. But without the high heroic trappings. It's too high a standard to hold any actual person to. The totalitarian true believer is the kn...
Definitely, I've noticed it even in the hierarchical chains of a call center. But it seems less insidious there, where there's little pretense of bein...
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