Shawn

You guys and gals know what I'm really tired of? This constant self doubting or criticism. That shit gets old faaaaast.

Yes, it is a wallowsome situation. I've been sleeping in excess of 18h lately, and my head doesn't feel right.

I say embrace the absurd!

In case anyone missed it: https://www.quora.com/What-does-internalizing-the-externality-mean

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=E-La91wr8xw

Yes...

You internalize the negative externalities.

Of course, we are! We pigs, take good care of ourselves. Except we got a lot of intestinal worms.

It soothes them in hot days. Pigs dont sweat. It also provides protection from external pests. It's also a comforting behavior.

My sister here: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=E4MEy4Z0Ri4

Good day everyone. I've been busy wallowing as seen here: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=njgzMiGdUx4 What have yall been up to?

A E S T H E T I C

Easy does it Tim. As they say, don't feed the troll.

Darn, you lot are quite unsatiable. May we not delve into such a line of reasoning, that would assert something of the sort:

Where does the confusion lay about here?

Proceeds to watch Triumph of the Will and becomes a Nazi...

Is this a hostage situation or what?

As a passing note, I do wonder how does the antinatalist not succumb to depression or suicidal tendencies if the world is really that terrible as to n...

Please expand.

But, it has to be in some sense 'attainable' for anyone to even entertain it as being realistic?

Is there any other way to state it (life, suffering, existence, etc.)? I tend to think it's a brute fact of existence, no?

But, the difference here lays in stating a fact that life is inherently full of suffering and adversity, rather than pointing out that life without su...

Isn't that put simply a gross overgeneralization?

But, would a life with suffering be worse-off than the idealistic notion of a life without suffering (Nirvana)?* *Conversely also...

I can only speak for myself here I suppose, so I would amend my comment to the sort of statement of fact, that I would prefer to live a life without s...

I am satisfied with this thread. If you aren't, then go ahead and start the poll. For the matter, I should also point out that it's a near impossibili...

If you're sincere, then go ahead and start one, just to asses the reasonableness of our lot, hereabouts.

Because it elucidates under what conditions an antinatalist would allow one to procreate or not? Surely, you can see some merit to assessing that, rat...

My contention here seems to be of the sort, in what kind of world would it be justified to have children. For the matter, I don't plan to have childre...

Well, here I chime in and to the defence of schopenhauer1 (which has been extremely dogged in his asymmetric and symmetric notions of suffering) would...

Hmm, requesting bannings of other members is forbidden. lol

And if anyone for whatever reason can't tolerate the notion of a paradise, then just talk about "perfect worlds".

Ok, so your talking about intentions here I suppose? My main point with the notion of a paradise where an antinatalist would actually allow one to pro...

Well, I think it is elucidating in what set of circumstances an antinatalist would warrant procreation, even if that means imagining perfect worlds or...

Well, I am addressing your concern wrt. my sentiment or question as to what kind of conditions are permissible to have children to an antinatalist. Wh...

Hah, coming from a philosophy forum, I don't see any merit to this.

I will have to meditate over your last two responses @"Possibility" and @"Noble Dust"...

@"unenlightened" what do you think?

Well, that's just silly. If one were to have the capacity to tolerate adversity, and yet choose to live a life full of comfort, then I don't see how a...

Well, you leave no room for adversity, and this flies against any commonsensical notion of what life is. More fundamentalism, eh? :roll:

Well, I was concerned with the circumstances that would allow procreation? A communist utopia? No predetermined defects?

I'm more concerned about the circumstances that would allow one to procreate without adherence to eugenics or such rubbish?

Is there a moderate version of antinatalism that can be applied here?

OK, so I just stumbled upon Third Way politics in the US, and it perfectly describes what I've been getting at hereabouts. Thoughts?

Nice post @"Possibility". I feel as though wallowing is the appropriate response if life truly is suffering. One has to understand that the frantic pa...

Degrees upon degrees of batshittery.

Yet, this thread isn't about me. More of a feel-good, me-too? Have you experienced something similar?

Yes, one wonders if @"schopenhauer1" is a nice bloke in real life.

Like what? Is it manifest in language or one's POV?

And what else can be said about them?