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@"Banno", this is surely something in your ballpark.

But, according to Moore, "good" is a simple. A simple is a thing that has no parts. Yet, we often use the term "good" in ways that make it seem as if ...

It seems to me and Banno, that what the open ended argument entails is that there are things that can be all those three and yet not be good. So, it s...

I set up the stage, so I give the floor to you. :cool:

So, good is context dependent?

Seems all the more complex since good as a simple is defined by circular definitions. Again we have this relational stuff arising out of a simple. Is ...

But, how is stuff related to what is good?

Sure, I mean syllogistic logic isn't necessarily ideal; but, at least it (a premise) shouldn't be lumped into the argument as a truth if it does arise...

I see you added this so I'll respond to it. I believe that premises are always up for scrutiny, whereas unsound reasoning creates these long threads t...

Not necessarily. It's simply an issue of too few people actually putting in the effort to make their arguments in logical form such as syllogistic log...

Yes, I would like to provide an example: 1. Worms and rats come out of the ground when it rains. 2. It rained. 3. Worms and rats are created by rain. ...

I always thought that validity was a property of epistemological verification (old jargon seemingly). I saw in old books the use of an argument both b...

I swear my book on philosophical analysis by Stanford stated it the way I stated in in our exchanges. Edit: It's an old book.

Yup, then I got it backwards. But, I only say the above the way I said because you can always be wrong about validity in terms of empirical truths whi...

I'm sorry; but, in logic empirical validity is a guarantee for validity of an argument, not soundness. Soundness only rests with logical form, as I ha...

I'm only separating logic from empiricism. Take for example the various syllogism's that one can use in making an argument. We can use them, as did th...

Sorry, I must be professing an empiricist argument with what I meant. We can have logically sound arguments that are empirically false, yet still be s...

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Well, the premises can be false and the argument can still be sound. But, a valid argument requires true premises.

But the difference lies within the truth of the premises themselves with respect to validity. Yes?

I think a sound argument is based on a sound logical form. Aren't you referring to 'validity'?

In British, a knob means a dangly part.

@"Banno", it's a great thread until the teacher leaves the classroom.

Hail Gaylord Nelson!

Let's name @"Bitter Crank", GayLord.

Gaylord Fauker

Looking forward to that one. I don't have much to say hereabouts.

- @"Banno" https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/comment/768370

I'm still here. Nothing really to add at the moment. I'm more interested in consistency across possible worlds, as people get hung up on this.

Or even, "FatNakedGay". Opposite actions and all that dialectical behavioral stuff.

Or, "Fat naked happy".

I suggest, "Henningay"

Who would have thought that the reincarnation of Edison started a company called Tesla... :joke:

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I can't yet figure out what it has to do with the pig year. Butt, let's hope it's a positive pig year.

May the pig year be a good one for the US. https://media.istockphoto.com/id/1039466278/vector/year-of-the-pig-papercut.jpg?s=612x612&w=0&k=20&c=aC879Y...

Who knows, a pig might even compliment you... :ok:

I imagine the pig would complement your farm. It would be a nice addition to it. :clap:

@"Hanover", I hope you can get a pig this year.

Another New Year spent on TPF...

Just out of sheer curiosity, do you think that Gödel's Incompleteness Theorems are metaphysical in nature?

Are you saying basically that wages (and especially minimum wages) haven't been beating the rise in inflation since XYZ year? Because that's my sentim...

So, you're core argument is that people aren't saving enough because they can't afford to save? That's how I view your position charitably.

A rising tide lifts all boats. https://i.etsystatic.com/7111804/r/il/9f1e3e/1114396321/il_570xN.1114396321_4ir9.jpg

Yes, but how do you mesh modal realism with Godel's Incompleteness Theorems?

Try Godel's incompleteness theorem. :fear:

You should read Max Tegmark's Multiverse theory. It resonates strongly here.

Meinongs jungle... :clap: What kind of strange things hide there is a mystery.

I could have sworn you were a Trumper. Happy I'm wrong.

Tell Plato that. :roll: