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Yes, I think so. Though, I haven't gone through the logic of it all, it seems to me that nihilism is self-defeating because it presupposes no real alt...

I want to add an observation of mine. I see American Transcendentalism as very close in nature to the Cynic and Stoic ethos. Thoughts?

All this makes me want to take a community college class in mathematics, heh. I think I will.

But, you do get the significance of viewing things this way, don't you? I mean, if mental abstractions are a feature of the world and not only the min...

That can be interpreted as just a proof by inversion, I think.

I believe this was answered by Kant in his Prolegomena. We can have synthetic a priori judgments made and in this view, intelligible objects are a fea...

I'm quite interested in trying to delineate the difference between philosophical pessimism and depression as a feature of that philosophical position....

Well, I'm glad we're on the same page then. I just don't agree with P4 either due to there being things such as synthetic a priori judgments or brute ...

Well, I'm glad that it's a matter of preference; but, I hope this doesn't lead us down the road of nihilistic relativism.

You can know based on differing logics that would dictate what to do. Ultimately it's a matter of preference when picking what logic to use, there rea...

Yeah, I mean I follow an online Facebook page of Stoicism and all I hear is about professing indifference. It ain't that simple with Stoicism and I'm ...

Have at this thread if you care to take 5 minutes to read it.

Yes, but their truth value isn't the same across the scope of logic. As an example: contextually, there be an action that is morally wrong but context...

By utilizing different logics you can refute a premise.

Yeah, P3 is fallacious.

Well, yes. We can submit to a collectivism of solipsistic manners of language games; but, intelligible objects persist after we are gone into some voi...

Modally speaking, intelligible objects are tantamount to saying that they exist independently of particular. They form the substance of the world in a...

That's a phenomenal breakdown of the issue. Yet, it still stands that 'abstractions of the mind' can be conferred with 'intelligible objects'. My noes...

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How is it that psychology is all big about dreams? Isn't that indicative of their importance in our lives? I don't know, but, I think dreams can be pr...

Perhaps my brain produces too much DMT. I don't know. This is interesting: http://thescienceexplorer.com/brain-and-body/psychedelic-drug-may-be-releas...

I don't think this is what I meant by dreams reflecting possible worlds. I meant to imply that one's situation that you find yourself in dreams can be...

Why not? Aren't they glimpses into one's soul?

So, just to backtrack on an old topic, I think the issue here is the determination by reason of a causal event. In another topic, I talked about wheth...

I do recall that you indeed posited that numbers are tantamount to affirming the concept of God. But, to ground what you have pondered over dutifully,...

Just to harp on Kant. I think, that abstractions of the mind exist in a modal independent sense that makes possible synthetic a priori judgments. It w...

Or you can have brute facts upon which all other facts rest on. Hence, modal logic?

Yes, but the differences are superficial on face value. When practiced then, the similarities become important, and hence the OP. Yes, that's true. I ...

Or again, they're just abstractions of the mind and nothing else. If they modally exist in other possible worlds, then that presupposes they have some...

But, I highlighted the fact that we use "God" and "the number two" as abstractions of the mind. If they exist, then, they exist as abstractions of the...

Then how else would you phrase the issue instead of resorting to terms like "abstractions of the mind"?

The purpose was to explore the meaning of the term "abstractions of the mind"? As in the OP, what are they, are they real or just metaphysical?

Whereof one cannot speak, you know? :wink:

Yes, I used the term in the context of numbers and/or God. What more do you want me to say?

Just like the number two exists as an abstraction of the mind, so must God too.

I don't mean to say that any real Stoic should become a Cynic. That would be illogical. But, taking the ethos of Stoicism to the logical extreme, then...

Yes, indifference is important; but, one cannot be indifferent towards needs; but, mostly wants. If that's the case then the logical thing to do is to...

Part of the fallacy here is that we are never truly satisfied with anything we do or get in return for our efforts. This is not true because we do fee...

Why was Marcus De Brun banned?

Perhaps, @"andrewk" can help with this question. Interested in his input also.

Not to idiotize the issue, but, it's demand for them that dictates value. And since money is a medium for assessing demand, then an absolute value on ...

Just an update on this. I find disidentification an extremely powerful tool in addressing issues that arise related to self-identity. By this, I mean ...

Then the goat blows up? If it can consume everything including itself then it's a case of the self containing infinite and innumerable set or more com...

The Great Goat can only eat one thing at a time. Hence, it either eats itself indefinitely and is reduced to impotency or it commits cannibalism and e...

This. Go ahead first.

This thread lacks direction. I suggest we close it.

Nah, I'm heading off to sleep. Cheers regardless. :smile:

@"Baden" would drink in the belly of the day. Haha.

Darn, that's some pretty cheap beer. Now I'm thirsty.

But that's not how we arrive at consensus building, no? Sure, our propositional attitude can differ even if we agree on the same thing or dispute. Whi...