Shawn

But, it doesn't obtain in this world only a possible stipulated one.

The referential, "Banno" in "Banno ate cornflakes and eggs with bacon this morning" denotes the Banno in this world or in a stipulated possible world ...

Then, had you eaten cornflakes and eggs with bacon this morning because you wanted a hearty meal also refer to that rigid designator in our world? Wha...

Then, is Banno a rigid designator?

As a fellow wallower, you must understand that this is simply a thing we do.

But you eating eggs and bacon this morning never happened. It doesn't obtain in our world; but, in some possible one where that may have happened. The...

I love your example @"Kippo". :)

Well there's nothing to attach the predicate of you eating cornflakes or eggs with bacon this morning. It has no referant that obtains in this world, ...

Oh, a fellow wallower. Nice to meet you. :)

So, saying that Banno could of had eggs instead cornflakes this morning is cool and all; but, leaves us with nothing of any import or a senseless prop...

Okay, but then without the metaphysics we're kind of left with an empty referent as to you having eggs instead of cornflakes this morning

Alright. But the next two questions are still pertinent... What's your take on them?

But, then the question arises, what if possible worlds are so profoundly different from our own (let's say they have a different logical space than ou...

What instantiates a stipulative term in a possible world is my next question. Do they obtain through the laws of nature, logic, and such?

I think, I get it. So, stipulative terms are those which we can specify; but, don't necessarily obtain in the actual world. Is that right?

So, to stipulate something according to Kripke is to name something or give it a description?

Still confused. Thanks anyway.

What does Kripke mean when he says that objects and their names are "stipulated" in possible world's? Kind of confused about what he means by that.

What page are we all on? I'm on 53.

Thanks for helping us out @"Banno".

It's a fact that Nixon was the 37'th president of the US in our world. Does Kripke limit the scope of facthood to only our possible world? Isn't it a ...

Does Kripke talk about facts? Facts are nice and simple.

Nope, makes perfect sense.

OK, then I seem to be lost here.

Yes, someone else could have been president of the US; but, nobody else was. Hence, the designator for the 37'th president of the US is Nixon, and thi...

Well, yes. Now, what?

I'm not following you here. I meant to imply that essential properties of objects are their relations to other objects. Does Kripke ever talk about fa...

Those are entire footnotes dedicated to elucidating what Kripke thinks about 'essence'. I doubt I could make a better claim than he has about the issu...

I am using 'not sharable' in a different sense here. By which I mean to imply that there was no other person at the time that could have been Presiden...

Nixon being president of the 37'th United States is not shareable. Perhaps; but, I see some utility of using it contextually speaking about things lik...

Then what is it? Just a wild guess on my part; but, an essence can be a definite description that is not shareable.

Something that ensures one's identity contrasted with others? It's what instantiates one's identity over all possible worlds to a singular predicate.

Since Unenlightened brought the topic up of essences. What makes one's essence real?

@"Frank" what's your take on this conundrum?

I don't think so also. I think frank is addressing a possible world in which Nixon could have chosen a different path than politics. What instantiates...

I'm looking at this from page 53:

Where do you want me to look at?

That's true; but, I'm willing to learn what it's all about. Thanks.

Oh, I don't know. It seems to me that to want to commit suicide requires some sort of emotional backdrop where one is depressed, anxious, or in persis...

But, surely the Stoics were no machines. They must have had desires for things beyond their control. Therefore if one professes an attitude of apathei...

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But, what if I said that the Buddha was right, and desire is the origin of suffering? Then should we be indifferent towards this 'inner conflict' that...

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Perhaps we should move on. What do you suggest we focus on next since I got hung up on criteria for identity.

No idea, honestly.

REM sleep is closest to one of waking state during sleep phases. I answered "a combination of conscious and subconscious".

I don't see any problems, I am just interested in the 'identity criteria' to which Kripke refers to. What is it?

I too was enamored with drugs for a good portion of my life. But, then I realized that they aren't conducive to being happy. What keeps you interested...