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I've already read that thread. Ok you win. I'll change my belief that science will explain consciousness from a "theory" to a "conceptual dependence o...

With all due respect, do you honestly not know what the word materialism means? Or physicalism? Or do you just disagree with the theory?

How does panpsychism explain ethics et al.?

That’s exactly what I said.

philosophers did that? :smile:

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I’m not being snarky, but seriously: What part of all things are material don’t you understand? I gave you the dictionary definition, and how it appli...

Or I'll even reduce it down another level. Consciousness IS the brain. Period. Is it not this: "materialism, also called physicalism, in philosophy, t...

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I put the above question to you as well.

Did I say neuroscience was a solution for everything? Ok if my terminology is wrong, and it could well be, then how would describe the theory (just a ...

No. But I'm saying that's what neuroscience is looking for.

Again. I wasn't talking to you. If I was I would've used the appropriate link, as I am now. Have a great night.

Nope

Generally speaking we agree, and I respect your opinion. As you say to immaterialists "Yeah yeah, but how do they know that? But I also contend that w...

My point is there's a lot of nasty name-calling here. I don't see the need for it, it doesn't add to the discussion, it's ad hominem, and honestly see...

what are you talking about?

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not all of them. You’d have to be more specific, and define how you’re using the word power.

sorry but exactly how do you describe a chakra point?

so you’re arguing that although we don’t know exactly how, or where, consciousness reacts to external stimuli like the other parts of our perceptions ...

Philosophical Zombies who had no normal consciousness they wouldn’t blend in with normally conscious people, which Chalmers contends. Think about it. ...

We now know that memory isn’t located in one anatomical part of the brain but is distributed throughout the entire brain. Memory is part of consciousn...

Plus you’re saying that someone born dead, blind and mute would be “less conscious” than normally-abled folk.

I’m just really not sure why it’s so difficult to imagine consciousness is located entirely in the brain. Of course we are influenced by phenomena out...

So...like I say, no one understands it. I just hammer this point because a lot of people on this thread and the other one seem to have "figured it out...

Curious how this impacts the discussion? https://www.newscientist.com/article/2346548-quantum-trick-sees-light-move-forwards-and-back-in-time-simultan...

Always? Or do you mean the powers that you disagree with?

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Agreed. And none of us know the "how? Agreed?

Zzzzzz…..let’s end this in a respectable way. No one knows how consciousness works. Agreed?

:up: It’s funny how panpsychists always want proof for a materialist view of consciousness when there’s zero for panpsychism More importantly NO Scien...

“No biology, no thoughts!” Thank you.

“It's also understandable that identity is seen to persist when someone 'loses consciousness', because from everybody else's point of view, the living...

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Bartricks - Thanks for the lengthy response. I recall talking to you here before - and let me say you are a man of very firm opinions, you are angry, ...

My thoughts precisely.

I agree - and bert you're comparing energy and consciousness. But energy can be measured - it's not immaterial in the sense consciousness is. The beha...

I hope you're right - and that it gets rebooted after death as well :smile:

The problem isn't two explanations, the problems is that they have to end up in the same sphere - the material. Again, how does an immaterial thing af...

I see what you're saying.

rather than going back and forth, first let me know if you understand the classic mind-body problem, and Elizabeth of Bohemia's critique of dualism.

Good stuff, thanks. I'm with Hume as far as self - it's a bundle of perceptions. There is no one self.

All right! One for the good guys!

ex. I'm a fan of Paul and Patricia Churchland, who are in fact "eliminative materialists" which involves an even more extreme view - that we should re...

Aha. So you don't put any stock in panpsychism?

So you're saying it's a wholly materialistic activity? Consciousness is within the brain and acts on the body? The mind is a non-material substance. Y...

nope - you’ll have to say that again, pretend I’m a 12 yr old.

thanks…but is the materialist view fairly represented. I’ve seen materialists get pretty quickly dismissed on this forum.