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Proof? What irregularities with choosing jury members have been established? The judge doesn't establish guilt, even if he were partial (and they all ...

This is patently false. Hamas has signalled being open for negotiations along the 1967 borders since 2017. No, oppressors don't get sympathy.

Oh fun, let's pretend it's inevitable for two people to bash each other's head in. The reductio of that argument is that genocide is ok. So, yes, it's...

Thanks. Musing again. :lol:

That's a bit of a chicken and egg story and the Palestinians can say the same. They can point to Begin in 37 saying they'll remove inhabitants to buil...

approximately the same in Israel. When Gallup last asked Israelis the same question in 2017, 30% believed it would be possible, while the majority (57...

Another misplaced comment. I'm critical about Israel and the Zionists setting the agenda there because of the power difference and continuous 75 years...

I know you hate Palestinians because you're conditioned by the idiots you surround yourself with but that was a really dumb reply. This describes Isra...

I'll have to take your word for it because it's not clear from the article. I also note that what Benny Morris wrote at the time about the Oslo accord...

you mean the Israeli illegal occupation, land grab, violence, oppression and hate has conditioned many Palestinians to hate their oppressors in turn? ...

This is all Barak talking in the article and not Morris, since it's an extract from an interview of Barak. But nice try. Everybody who thought the Osl...

They already have this right of return under Israeli laws. They don't have a right to displace existing populations though. You don't know what those ...

Who decides this? Why is it off the table? Because Israel says so? It's a negotiation. Nothing is off the table. The whole point is that everything is...

There was legitimate criticism about this peace process though. You should check out Edward Said his interviews at the time. And it was dissatisfactio...

And yet this is still too vague as who attacked who and what concerns an attack is subject of discussion. And what about pre-emptive self-defence. As ...

Happy for your to explain it again. Saves me the time.

I'm not discussing international law though but simply applying the rules developed as part of the just war tradition. I'm also not interested in disc...

based on what borders? Legally, only the 1948 borders were ever recognised. I'm afraid this is still mostly symbolism. 140 other countries already rec...

I'm not undermining anything. You insist on filial relationships being morally relevant. I show that they aren't because they say nothing about moral ...

Also, it's entirely possible within the just war tradition to reach the conclusion that it's more just to not defend against armed force. Some reasons...

Again. Nobody argues against a right to self defence so if anybody is raising a straw man, then this is it. What I take issue with is the idea that th...

This could be true in Canada but I know it's not the case in the US.

I loved that serie as a kid. Don't know why, it wasn't hip in the 90s at all.

Yes, this concerns probable future events. A well-known exception. I think we need one for past events as well which doesn't exist in Anglo-Saxon coun...

Retitle this thread to: "How dare these people survive beyond my expectations"

Intense annoyance: populist politics people taken in by populists And this reminded me of two more: Movies so dark, you can't see anything but it's "g...

I stopped reading.

Smart daughters... I love my kids but I have recurring doubts whether I did the right thing having kids, considering the extremist right wing politics...

Yes, your grand-grand kids will have to live like cavemen but at least they're not dead!

But you do agree that depending on the role the outcome of an ethical decision may be different? I personally think, which is also why I didn't become...

This doesn't make sense based on the exchange we had. I said the moral case is clear "we're all people". You say "Hamas doesn't think that way". I say...

https://www.btselem.org/ https://www.adalah.org/en/law/index It's nice how you equate the right wing extremists (aka Zionists) with the entirety of Is...

Again with the comparisons that are ahistoric. Just deal with the facts as they are now. Clearly, you have no clue how segregation is established in I...

Q. E. D.

red herring. There's no clearer condemnation of Israel than the weakness of replies that only aim to distract.

Your interpretation makes no sense because you simply want to disagree. I said "and". Both these things will happen unless Israel's extreme right wing...

Excellent. https://www.theguardian.com/law/article/2024/may/20/icc-prosecutor-seeks-arrest-warrants-israeli-pm-netanyahu-hamas-officials-war-crimes

The same aim as it has always been: remove all Palestinians from Palestine and create a greater Israel from the river to the sea with Apartheid in its...

Irrelevant. What other people do is no argument for any type of moral decision. Why don't you try to make a coherent moral argument why a close family...

Only interesting if you're not interested in morality. The moral case is clear, "we are all people" and those lives are all equal. That's why the just...

No. I'm talking about the article. The idea that morality gives a shit about borders is dumb as fuck. There's no difference in the moral value of inno...

There's a glaringly obvious philosophical point which I made and you chose to ignore.

It's not a war of self defence. It's conquest and has been for decades. As to weighing one group of civilian lives above others or even your own soldi...

which highlights your own ignorance and shows you just squarely walking in the trap of acceptance of the premise that Israel is on the just side of th...

This is all irrelevant because they don't have a just cause. If you really want to argue that war crimes are permitted then Hamas did the right thing ...

That's clearly not what I said. Silly "gotcha".

A dumb analogy. I can shoot without killing plus the other guy is clearly not innocent. With a nuclear bomb, death is certain and killing innocent peo...

Too right. Pun intended.

No. The use of nuclear weapons is categorically disproportionate.

Israel fails on 4 and 6 for decades already. It is also illegally occupying land and had Gaza turned into an open air prison. Its leadership had expre...