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That's what your notion of certainty boils down to. That's when you hung yourself.

Hundreds of millions of people are certain of that.

Not at all. People are certain of all sorts of stuff, that stuff included. All sorts of people are certain that God exists.

That's not true. I read your bits. I summarized what you were getting at. I verified the summary by asking if you agreed. You characterized my summary...

To borrow a bit from you(I do not like the phrase "knowing the truth", but since you've chosen it)... Certainty is confidence that one knows the truth...

You're saying that being certain is being certain of something that you're not concerned with.

You claimed that being certain is knowing the truth and then later openly expressed no concern about what truth is. Nothing left for me to say...

Given that you originally invoked "knowing the truth" as the distinction between feeling certain and being certain, if you are not concerned with what...

Assange also helped to cause quite a bit of unnecessary grief to an already grieving family by perpetuating the false idea that a murder victim was ti...

Physiological sensory perception is part of experience. Divorcing the two leads to misunderstanding both.

The above is for a bit of context... We need to examine the differences between "We can feel certain, even when we are not", and "We can feel certain ...

Nothing special about knowledge if it can be wrong. On my view, it cannot.

Good. That's what I thought you meant. So, according to your line of reasoning here, being certain requires things that are inter-subjectively corrobo...

I'm trying to get Janus to explain what the difference is, according to his/her position, between feeling certain and being certain. Seems to me like ...

Well, to be blunt, you've said none of those things. I do think you meant them though. What you said was... If what I said echoes that then that is an...

No, but you may convince me otherwise.. So what extra is needed to go from feeling certain that God exists to being certain?

"Feeling certain" seems to suggest belief, while "being certain" seems more like knowledge. "I believe that God exists, but I cannot know that God exi...

No need for people to fret much over this... Your language use is very odd. You claim that feeling certain that 'X' is true is not equivalent to being...

May not be worth fretting over. Clearing up confusion for others helps even if we fail to convince those who oppose us.

I think you hit the nail on the head. A conflation of truth and certainty. The former is about the belief, the latter is about the believer. Janus' us...

You know, I feel certain but I cannot be certain.

If feeling certain is about one's confidence, being certain is about the truth of the belief, and the truth of the belief is not determined by the cer...

We can feel certain even when we are not right. We can feel certain even when we are not justified in being so. We can feel certain even when we're de...

What a load of bullshit.

MAGA world is prima facie evidence of the power of belief, as well as how easily others can directly influence our worldviews and behaviors. Intention...

Yeah, we could swap some terms and likely make some sort of sense. Perhaps introducing how truth works in belief statements may be on the menu here. "...

One can be certain and wrong. Thus, certainty does not equate to, nor does it always indicate knowledge. If 'X' is certain, do we not also feel certai...

Nice attempt at correction. I am reminded of Russell here who, like Kenny and yourself, also drew a distinction between faith and belief. Christianity...

The resemblance of Russia's current actions to others' throughout history is that Russia - like others - are forcing themselves onto another people, a...

Your position can be summed up here nicely. Throughout history all sorts of nations have wrongfully imposed themselves upon others and stole their shi...

Oh yeah, and I am most certainly not a Christian. I'm agnostic on matters like the origin of the universe.

Not everyone living in the "west" fits into your preconceived notion of "Westerners". The sheer number of nations, communities, and individuals around...

And thus... It's just fine if Putin does the same... :zip:

Gratuitous assertions won't cut it. The last statement does not follow from anything preceding it. That's a problem in a philosophy forum such as this...

We're working from incommensurate understandings or notions of human belief. May not be much point in continuing this if we cannot agree on what the k...

This could be a textbook case of projecting one's beliefs onto others. Given that you have not condemned the behaviours in question when talking about...

Do you trust that Putin is an honest goodwilled actor in all this?

Does the assassination of Putin's political opponents(who were Russian citizens) influence your view?

Not what I'm saying, nor was that a rhetorical question.

:yikes: Janus, you know better than to say something like that... No need in taking it to be true that one's instruments have been calibrated. No need...

No, that's not just "rhetorical nonsense", and that is not what I mean by "goodwilled actor". That's a very disappointing response. I would expect som...

You seem to think making shit up and acting as if someone else has said it counts as an appropriate reply, and that name calling counts. You're arguin...

Indeed. Free and fair elections require a well informed electorate.

No. I agree with that. It's emaciated to believe that one cannot peacefully coexist with their enemies.

I'm curious... What would you suggest be necessarily included for a long lasting treaty between Ukraine and Russia?

Self-sufficiency is a good thing for any and all sovereign nations. Of course, very few have the natural resources necessary to be so, and this has be...

This seems to be the basis of Putin's talk about the west, particularly regarding whether or not the west could be trusted to keep their word. I'm sad...

Do you trust that Putin is an honest goodwilled actor in all this? Does the assassination of his political enemies influence your view?

You and I clearly have very very different standards for how to treat others, enemies notwithstanding. As I said earlier, your position is based upon ...