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I didn't say that. I have. Attend to them. So, you are claiming that one need not make a connection between a name and what's being named in order to ...

With certainty(conviction) comes "I know", and with less comes "I believe". Is that what you're getting at?

Certainty?

That is conflating true statements and what makes them so. I rest my case regarding that.

Earlier you mentioned the distinction between "I believe" and "I know"... I'd like for you to set that out for us. Would you?

I did not say that you said it. Notably, I'm showing you that you're conflating truth with either fact/reality or true statements. Neither is acceptab...

So a language independent truth is not equivalent to truth? The existence of dinosaurs is an example of a state of affairs/events/happenings/the way t...

To quite the contrary, if you know that you're looking at an apple, then you have already drawn a multitude of very complex correlations between 'obje...

So, truth is equivalent to historic states of affairs/happenings/events/they way things were? That would be to conflate truth and fact/reality. You mi...

Suspending one's judgment is a wise move when appropriate. Taking that to the extreme is unwise at best. Forming and holding true thought/belief does ...

Using "correspondence" works best. I am a correspondence theorist, just not one who mistakenly holds that thought/belief formation is existentially co...

Is the above true? Is the above true? Is the above true?

So then do you or do you not think that your beliefs are true? Do you or do you not think that your statements are statements and/or expressions of yo...

Your mistake is not realizing that statements are statements of thought/belief, assuming sincerity in speech.

I certainly believe what I write, Rich. Do you?

So Rich, do you have anything substantive to add to the conversation about truth, or are you here to put forth ad hominem aimed in my direction instea...

Acknowledgement of mistake is crucial for correction.

You're confusing your own imagination with reality my friend. I've never called my beliefs "truths".

I'm not. On that, my friend, you'll just have to trust me.

And yet if you believe what you write, then you must believe that I am unknowingly presenting my own personal belief as a truth.

So you believe that you know what's going on in my head better than I do?

Ah... Interesting. Going back to your earlier post, I took first notice of a previously unforeseen edit. Do you not believe what you write?

Indeed. Talking about what sorts of things can be true and what makes them so does make for an interesting discussion between those who claim to know ...

I would think that that's(conviction) exactly what anyone anytime making an assertion displays. Edited for clarity's sake alone.

I would readily agree with the bit about people calling their own strongly held belief "truth". Such folk are working from a very poor understanding o...

If some truth requires meaning and some meaning requires interpretation then.... 8-)

It seems to me that you're talking about conviction.

You changed the terms. I do not agree that truth is dependent upon meaning. Nor do I agree that meaning is dependent upon interpretation.

That is irrelevant. A=A is utterly meaningless in and of itself. Let A be "a belief".

Can you give an argument along those lines that you're ok with then? I was attempting to put your words into one, based upon how they were written.

"a belief is a belief" is meaningless.

Let's put this into argumentative form... p1. Being true requires being meaningful p2. Being meaningful is contingent upon interpretation C. Being tru...

Our debate was about your claim that the truth of a statement is dependent upon interpretation of that statement. I've since argued against that. If i...

The statement "The cat is on the mat" is true if and only if the cat is on the mat. The statement(within quotes) corresponds to fact/reality(is true) ...

Sigh... We are both, objects in the world and subjects taking an account of it and ourselves. The subjective/objective dichotomy adds nothing but unne...

On my view, correspondence isn't a metaphysical theory attempting to explain the correspondence of statements/sentences/propositions. Correspondence i...

This could be quite interesting. Seems that if we are to call something a "truth-maker", it would need to include everything it takes to make truth. I...

The statement is not true in one sense and false in another, because the truth of the statement is not dependent upon all interpretations thereof.

All misinterpretation is interpretation. The truth of "X" is not dependent upon misinterpretation. The truth of "X" is not dependent upon interpretati...

That does lead to a contradiction.

If the truth of a statement were dependent upon interpretation, then all statements would have precisely the same truth conditions as all of the inter...

Sigh... It is not the case that the truth of "X" is contingent upon misinterpretation.

Both have influenced my thinking... The problem, as I see it, begins showing itself by talking about what the two propositions "are related to", and i...

I think you've misunderstood. Contradiction most certainly arises in saying that the truth of a statement is dependent upon interpretation. If that we...

There are no such things as different interpretations in the same sense.

We were not discussing the truth conditions of an interpretation of "X". I was objecting to the notion that the truth of "X" was dependent upon the in...

I realize that the following quote was directed at Terrapin, however it is of interest to me as well... I'm curious about the framework being put to u...

It is as a direct result of Bernie Sanders' not being president, that the statement "Bernie Sanders is not the president of the United States" is true...

Thanks. There was only one statement:"Cat's fly". There were three interpretations. All were different. None were "Cat's fly". I would agree with the ...

Given what I know(or think I know) about correspondence theory, and most academic views regarding truth itself, I would say that that issue is commonl...