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It seems to me that supervenience is all about existential dependency. As someone mentioned earlier, the difference between emergentists and non-emerg...

You're presupposing that... somehow... in some way are... you are privy to Michael's beliefs moreso than Michael. While - in certain situations it is ...

If by "moral" you mean according to some particular behavioural code, then I agree. Codes can be mistaken.

Okay. What about the rest of what I said?

Whether or not kindness and empathy and charity make the world a better place does matter though. I'm curious if I have the general gist of what you'v...

Seems naturalist to me.

Why be moral? :smile: That's like asking... Why be kind? Why do what's best for most everyone concerned/included? Why glorify doing good for goodness'...

Sometimes there are choices other than just faith or authority There have been times when neither faith nor authority had things right.

That presupposes a subject capable of complex metacognition.

Well, if I've not answered then what are you possibly referring to when writing "Neither of your answers are in any way adequate"??? :brow: First ques...

Can we tease this out a bit further? Would you agree with my saying that we need no 'rule giver', 'enforcer', and/or judge aside from ourselves if for...

Interesting. Thanks for that. Collective intentionality may dovetail nicely with my own position.

Yup. I've been listening to/watching Searle lectures from time to time for a while now. Trying to keep the ontology closer to ground level. Dennett he...

Searle's status functions??? Institutional facts???

People threatening to hang Mike Pence are not enemies of the US either, I suppose... :roll:

Sedition is not a rebellion against the United States government. A rebellion against the United States is not an insurrection. Sedition is not an ins...

I'm conflating nothing. Sedition is enough.

Does not matter. Rebelling against the transfer of power with arms nonetheless is enough.

Rubbish. Sedition against the United States is both rebellion and insurrection. Trump and many congress members were involved, have and continue to of...

By anyone who looks.

Look again. Sedition is rebellion against the United States

Trump has been found guilty of offering aid and comfort to people who are guilty of sedition. That disqualifies him from holding public office.

That's a matter of enforcement... nothing else. Some people run stop signs too, and yet the cop doesn't ticket them. It's an offense nonetheless.

Well no... sedition and seditious conspiracy is enough. We have that too!

Attempting to obstruct an official proceeding such as the peaceful transfer of power counts as an offense that disqualifies one. Offering those people...

Evidently you're unaware of all the cases where some have plead guilty and/or been found guilty of precisely the language in the article. So, check......

If they were members at the time they gave aid and comfort to insurrectionists, they would.

Right. It seems to me that that article applies much much more broadly than is currently being applied. In other words, it is clear that a large numbe...

Holding public office or being on the ballot does not exonerate one from the article.

Holding public office prior to offering aid and comfort to insurrectionists does not exonerate one from the article. Just as the article prohibited co...

The purpose of the article is to prohibit insurrectionists and those who give aid and comfort to insurrectionists from holding public office. It makes...

The judge doesn't matter at this point. If they were guilty, by whatever means you find acceptable, what sense would it make for them to have the sole...

How would that work if there were members in congress who were guilty of what the article sets out?

If those guilty of what the amendment sets out won an election and were to hold public office and it were up to them to enforce it, it would defeat th...

If this congress were responsible for enforcing it as written, they would be forced to conclude that they themselves were disqualified from holding th...

A congress full of insurrectionists. A congress full of folk who attempted to stop/obstruct an official proceeding. A congress of folk who continue to...

No, I'm pointing out that without agreement there can be no mortgage, in the very same way, by the very same means that without obligation there can b...

Real... neither only in the mind nor mind independent. It's a matter of what ideas consist of.

Enforcing it is not the question. It's whether or not the agreement remains intact. The agreement is not physical. The record of it is. I'm not speaki...

Weird. Those words were just used by you for the first time, and yet I'm somehow avoiding something that you've just now expressed. Odd indeed. Do you...

I've no idea what you're on about. I think that you're misattributing meaning to my posts.

I'm trying very hard to 'dovetail' the substantive to the minimalist version you voice. :razz:

Yeah, I'm still working through all this... for me "states of affairs" are just what's happening at some specific time and place. It's a proxy for the...

Did I claim anything about what - exactly - establishes a state of affairs?

We agree on that. Where we disagree is on b earlier. There is no need for such a thing, as I said earlier for the reasons I said earlier, all of which...

There's all sorts of different standards/criterions for what exactly counts as being right/wrong. If we are to set the societal norms aside, then our ...

Not exactly, although like I said... I acknowledge the fact that all codes of conduct are subject to individual particulars.

I know what they both mean.

Well... I think that rules come down to individual particulars. I'm sure you'll agree. Different communities hold different rules/moral belief. So, wi...

Well, yeah. For the most part. Currently the American legal system is just a gloried form of morality. But why the need for rules here? Kicking puppie...