creativesoul

We may not disagree there, depending on the candidate filling in the blank left by "whatever it is". I'm not fond of the notion of "proposition"...

It is not. I've just mentioned it more here in recent past.

The same reason we no longer seriously entertain geocentric models.

Planing a board cannot be done without a tool. A tool cannot be made without belief. Planing a board cannot be done without belief. Belief is necessar...

I think you're right here regarding "talking at cross-purposes". I'm arguing from the standpoint of evolutionary progression. The safest starting poin...

Do you believe that naive/direct realism cannot deny color as a property of objects? I mean, I suppose I do not see any reason that a position like na...

Indeed. Searle is a self-proclaimed naive realist. I'm currently listening/studying his lectures on philosophy of mind.

I do like how that accounting practice covers other mental states aside from belief, in terms of sharing the same content.

Thanks for the bits about a disjunctive account.

Indeed. You and I agree on the OP question. Knowledge is not merely belief. My claim was that knowledge is existentially dependent on belief(knowledge...

But I think that there are empirical facts of the matter. Direct awareness, knowledge, and belief are distinct, but given the need for evolutionary pr...

What does the proposition consist of, here, on this account? If the content of the cat's belief is the proposition, and the content of the proposition...

Your rejection is based upon a conception of experience that cannot include language acquisition. Your responses thus far have been full of strawmen a...

Devotion is of the believer. Truth conditions are not always.

I'm thinking deterministic causal chain of events. Bike riding definitely arose via belief. It makes no sense to say that belief is not necessary for ...

If "knowing that" includes my cat knowing that I was about to put food in her bowl as I began the ritual, despite her clear inability to form/possess ...

Does not matter to me how many conjunctions are necessary. I'm certain that my fridge will be there when I go grab a yogurt. Unshakably. Absolutely. C...

Five activities with five different sets of existential conditions. Is expectation nowhere to be found?

The bike emerged onto the world stage through the belief of the original bike makers. Impossible to ride a bike that you do not believe is there.

If A is existentially dependent upon B, then either B emerged prior to or simultaneously with A. Fill in the blanks. Find an exception. Bike riding - ...

Do you think someone has made the argument that all belief is necessary for bike riding?

Yup. Who's made those claims anyway?

That's one way to talk about it.

Irrelevant to the point being made. Where there has never been bikes and people there could have never been people riding bikes. The first creator mus...

Huh. Self defeat much?

Please set this purported argument out.

Agree.

Being right without knowing. Are you implying that certitude is never warranted?

One can be certain of what's going to happen. Those things can happen as expected. After they happen, one knows. That doesn't seem right.

Yes.

Sure. It becomes a series of autonomously enacted unconscious behaviours. How does that avoid the existential dependency that all experienced riders h...

I cannot make much sense of the idea that learned bike riders no longer believe that they're riding bikes.

Sweet. Good to know. Impossible to learn how to ride a bike that one does not believe is there. Isn't it?

In both agreement and good standing. Glad to join you, if that's okay?

How does one learn to ride a bike without believing that they're doing something while they're learning? Learning involves all sorts of belief. Removi...

These threads often get interesting. We're fallible creatures. It doesn't follow from that that we're always mistaken. Objectivity is fraught with arc...

Driven and delineated by evolutionary timeline. Nah, more towards current knowledge. Who's being dismissive? I brought them up to continue what I've b...

As you said, using slightly different words, experience presupposes meaning. I would be okay with claiming simultaneity regarding meaning and experien...

Not a good offer... deleted. :blush:

You're focusing upon language use. I agree with that much. My concerns were of the physical/mental, physical/non physical, mind/body varieties as it m...

I don't think so. I believe experience consists of simpler things. I would not call it a composite, for not all the elements can be said to exist in t...

That as well...

I'd like to see the support for this.

I doubt it. Maybe. I don't see how that qualifies as a stand-alone entity. Apart from what, exactly? How do you get from what I wrote to what you sugg...

Naive realism is not the only sensible notion of direct perception.

Janus is correct. You've drawn an equivalence. He asked about it. You've squirmed.

All meaningful experience consists of correlations being drawn between different things. Correlations can only be drawn between different things if th...

Needs substance.

You could not be more wrong. Perhaps I'll be able to show you soon. The gross neglect has not happened unnoticed. Like our herring well done, eh?

You can know with 100% certainty that logical possibility alone does not warrant belief.