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What exactly would obstruction look like to you? What would count as such?

Irrelevant to this situation. Red herring. Even if they ought, it does not fucking matter here. In fact, if they ought to have been but were not, then...

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A president does not have the privilege of failing to uphold his sworn oath.

A president does not have the privilege of obstructing an investigation into his behaviour... More Fox rhetorical drivel.

Clinton's crime was lying under oath about a blowjob. The impeachment of Clinton was not about his lying about a blowjob. Fer fuck's sake.

Trump ordered different people to not honor the subpoena to testify. That is obstruction.

To anyone interested... the "On Bullshit" thread offers a perfect explanation of NOS's contributions here... His testimony is not at all about what's ...

Are you aware that Clinton was only found guilty of lying about a blowjob?

It's not about democrat talking points... the irony... as I said... listen to the relevant testimony, particularly the testimony of the professors of ...

The evidence for obstruction is overwhelming in both this impeachment proceeding and the Mueller investigation. Watch the congressional hearing testim...

Love is a self-serving concept. Each person has their own conception - so to speak - of what one is supposed to do when one is in love. Some people fi...

So much for that.

I'm not sure if it is all supposed to work that way... that would require a tremendous amount of forethought as well as preceding action taken in step...

Yeah... I wasn't impressed much regarding his anecdotal account of Pascal's thought and belief about Witt's attitude.

On a second reading, it seems that you too are compelled to deny true lies. The only way to misrepresent a state of affairs is to make false statement...

I sympathize with all the American voters who would like to vote for a female president but strongly think/believe that not just any female will do. I...

My personal issue with this, which I think that Banno agrees with, is that lies need not be false. The only thing that a lie requires is a statement b...

You realize that Frankfurt doesn't do this, right?

Yes.

I can only hope that these recent events get enough Americans off their lazy asses to vote. The democratic nominee will be important as well... Trump ...

What sort of precedent would be set, if we were to allow a president of the United States to publicly degrade and denounce a clearly outlined Constitu...

What sort of interpretation could possibly include proclaiming what McConnell publicly proclaimed prior to trial? He publicly announced that his posit...

The oath to take the public office they preside over includes upholding the Constitution... which most certainly includes performing their role as jud...

Dereliction of one's solemnly sworn duty...

Good question. I agree with his contention. I'm not convinced that Frankfurt made his case. I think in an attempt to make his case that bullshit is di...

Yes... I think I see what you're saying. We could perhaps make a good case that Frankfurt waffles on the "short of lying" part. He certainly works fro...

Yes. That is the part about the analysis that I find quite compelling, and it offers a hand in glove fit to so many of the things in American culture....

Certainly we can yield something worthwhile here...

Come on Banno. From page 10 through 20 is interesting... and there's so much that you and I agree with...

This is the part that seems to me to be the crux of Frankfurt's analysis.

Which person is Reason anyway? :lol:

Feigning ignorance of form...

There are prescriptions of shit; only a person can issue a prescription; therefore shit is a person.

And yet the leader has already spoken as if it is fait accompli?

Here is where I think the book gets rather interesting... To be clear. You and I are in much agreement, including thinking that there is an error rega...

Frankfurt then attempts to draw a distinction between Black's formal definition of humbug and bullshit...

As you note... Yes. If they also think that the orator does not believe the same way as their audience. This last bit I think may be the important asp...

Seems we all, including Frankfurt, were taken aback by the notion of 'short of lying'... I think Frankfurt is working that bit out, while attempting t...

This is the bit that expands upon... Note... he(Frankfurt) calls it a lie, it's just not a lie told about his own belief... it's about the amount of m...

This may be worth spending a bit more time teasing out what Frankfurt was doing... making sense of Black's implication that one can deliberately misre...

Frankfurt then moves on to the next bit... Frankfurt clearly interprets Black as not regarding pretentiousness as an elemental constituent of all humb...

The first thing he focuses upon is the bit about deceptive misrepresentation, bringing attention to the intent or design to deceive. This means that p...

Frankfurt wants to offer a theory about the commonly used term "bullshit". He overtly notes that the topic/notion does not seem to have been clearly a...

I am. I'm almost certain I have my own copy... at least one.

I'm saying... simply... The Republicans and their donors ARE invested. It's not bizarre unless the above is not being seriously taken into considerati...

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Hmmm... Seems a bit more to me that perhaps the reason it all seems so bizzare is because the very fact that someone like Trump has won, and is being ...

"Over the term"... Nonsense. "while using the term"... Yes... you have. When an author uses different senses of the same term in the same argument it ...

My my my... You really are serious, aren't you? :snicker: