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Why would I lie about that? Engage with what is being said. Why is it convoluted?
April 10, 2025 at 14:41
No I can’t imagine you would but I explained already. Not really, and also not what is being said. AI was a different thread, not the experience machi...
April 10, 2025 at 14:41
You can look them up to get a picture of it. Though Blackmoor suggests consciousness is an illusion.
April 10, 2025 at 02:45
Though thinking about it I guess our storytelling does give meaning to the chemicals and gives them the context to do what they do, and the stories we...
April 10, 2025 at 02:12
I mean I got two ends of the spectrum, one who says it's all chemicals and that mind just projects "fiction" (even though without that "fiction" you'd...
April 10, 2025 at 01:40
I'm aware of that, but it's not like I can stop the thoughts. Also microdosing isn't possible where I live. Cannabis did nothing for me but make me sl...
April 10, 2025 at 01:35
They do exist, that's why I said I'm not doing this.
April 10, 2025 at 01:07
I actually does, especially since it suggests that SSRI's aren't really well understood. I used to be on them and they didn't really make a difference...
April 10, 2025 at 01:07
I'm not doing this, it's not even related to the thought experiment.
April 10, 2025 at 01:04
That talk though is the only reason any of this makes sense though, what you told me is a story to explain things just like we do for everything else ...
April 10, 2025 at 01:02
I think an earlier poster was going on about how we can't really tell if it's fake or real since it's all cascading neurons. That said what is so spec...
April 10, 2025 at 00:56
Matter does exist though. We also have made progress on the hard problem, at least from the research I've seen. Probably, we know that brain chemistry...
April 10, 2025 at 00:52
And if we're not? What would suggest otherwise? That could just be status quo bias, I believe this already covered that line of reasoning: https://iep...
April 09, 2025 at 22:02
No, it's due to the potential logical conclusions of thinking about this. Therapists can't help because they cannot address such philosophical questio...
April 09, 2025 at 18:47
Neuroscience clearly, it's not like there is magic that makes it happen. If everything we take to be meaningful is just the result of chemicals that c...
April 09, 2025 at 17:12
Neither of those posts answer my concerns or the question. It’s more like wondering if all that is meaningful is just chemical signal and therefor not...
April 09, 2025 at 16:51
I asked it because everywhere else I asked people just insisted the question was either nonsense or impossible and didn’t really engage with the point...
April 09, 2025 at 16:41
In some ways it’s just that and in some ways it’s not. but that’s not an answer to the question nor does it engage with the thought experiment. But we...
April 09, 2025 at 16:39
Apparently there are some recent studies they did on it, but I dunno how reliable they are since the machine is just a hypothetical: https://iep.utm.e...
April 09, 2025 at 04:33
That's kinda what AGI is for, the next step. It's meant to replace that level of cognitive work for humans. Also the Industrial Revolution is a terrib...
April 05, 2025 at 04:52
They already gave them and you ignored them, you just doubled down insisting subjective feelings and assessments are objective. I even explained how y...
April 05, 2025 at 00:13
No, not an objective fact, it's personal therefor not objective. Physical and cognitive "disabilities" are also not objective facts. Again, you have t...
April 04, 2025 at 20:04
Suffering is though it is a personal thing. It's an old zen story about how true enlightenment acknowledging the two truths of reality and to live the...
April 04, 2025 at 05:34
Incorrect, again. It's not facticity, it's subjective. Those are also not facts of suffering, Buddhism and Eastern philosophy already addressed that. ...
April 04, 2025 at 02:21
I'd have to agree with them, it doesn't matter if humans share them (though not all humans) it's still subjective feelings, not objective facts. Every...
April 03, 2025 at 23:08
But if it's chemicals whats the difference? https://x.com/Merryweatherey/status/1516836303895240708 I mean if we are talking about the brain isn't it ...
April 03, 2025 at 22:57
Aren't they just both chemical responses? It's everything we do just a vehicle for our own pleasure. Whether it's love, relationships, a job we like, ...
April 01, 2025 at 23:16
Well the thing is this is more getting into advanced AI, like AGI that the link is talking about. The issue is sorta "solving" human purpose by just g...
April 01, 2025 at 18:38
I have not, mostly because it doesn't really answer questions well from what I see. That prompt you listed is a key example. Nor does it have anything...
April 01, 2025 at 18:24
Yeah but there is a reason I linked and quoted it. But doesn't that boil down to just pleasure like he's saying it is. It reminds me of a thought expe...
April 01, 2025 at 03:58
Maybe you should as it explains it a bit more. Maybe, but if we do things we enjoy isn't that more or less the same thing? Maybe not or maybe we just ...
March 31, 2025 at 21:05
Some would argue that's just storytelling, making things out to be more than what they really are. Well our observations and experience could be mista...
March 31, 2025 at 03:39
It's more like trying to expand on the quora answer and what he's getting at and extending things to their logical conclusion. I don't think such a th...
March 31, 2025 at 00:35
What about with AGI? I was more motivated by this post: https://www.quora.com/What-ethical-dilemmas-should-we-consider-as-technology-evolves-rapidly/a...
March 30, 2025 at 19:12
I don’t think those posts hold any water, especially given how ai is lately. We can’t even manage social media let alone cars. We also, despite the te...
March 30, 2025 at 16:03
I dunno, the thought give me a lot of dread lately as it seems like the hopeful future I grew up believing in turns out to be the opposite. SO far tec...
March 30, 2025 at 03:57
That's sort of why Wittgenstein said a private language is incoherent, language is exclusively public and carries the meaning we agree it does. It's h...
March 29, 2025 at 17:44
There is though, you're doing it now. Language is transmission albeit mentally because these words only make sense in a shared understanding. It's why...
March 29, 2025 at 06:33
That's what I meant by ignoring them because what they said does not track. If it were the medium and not us we wouldn't have so many cultures with di...
March 29, 2025 at 06:05
They don't, they only have the meaning we give them. They aren't direct causes because they are inherently empty. They have meaning because we have ag...
March 29, 2025 at 05:46
But the point is that they think there is something about the physical nature of the medium when that's not it. It's only the meaning we make out of s...
March 29, 2025 at 05:30
It does not mean that, but there is intention in the ink in the word choice, even writing style, so much. There is nothing about the ink itself. You'r...
March 29, 2025 at 05:22
Wasn't really much of one, you clearly don't understand meaning and how it works and think the medium does anything. I wouldn't bother, they just repe...
March 29, 2025 at 05:17
Meaning and purpose to be exact.
March 29, 2025 at 05:13
Effectively it is to me, especially since we are talking about language where use does determine use. We aren't talking about objects or anything else...
March 29, 2025 at 04:25
Uhhh, no. There is a 'ghost in the ink' and it's whoever wrote it and their intention. Purpose is not absent in the note, only a fool would think that...
March 29, 2025 at 04:23
That's why I said it's two sides of the same coin. They seem the same to me. You're intending to make use of something unless you're just some unconsc...
March 29, 2025 at 04:16
Nope, also you seem to be allergic to making sense. This just screams pretentious. The purpose is not absent hence the note. You could but they'd be w...
March 29, 2025 at 03:39
Funny thing about that, apparently people had names to describe language in colors we can't describe. Like the Greeks and the Wine red sea. Biology pl...
March 29, 2025 at 03:31
Yeah but that's still use according to him, what a word means is how it's used. Hence why in my OP I think the dude in wrong in that meaning and purpo...
March 29, 2025 at 02:58