Darkneos

When you say something is a standard view you're implying a degree of popularity, even the context of your post showed as such. That's not really what...

External to one's perception, or in the case "mind independent". In other words the opposite of solipsism. An external world means a world that exists...

That's a bit more complicated. It might as well be saying there isn't one if it cannot be known. But again it's not really true that it cannot be know...

Yeah we do, again hundreds of books have been written on it.

But that is what is meant especially since it started with "The external world that cannot be know" by their own words. Your assessment is still incor...

But according to you there is no out as in the external world isn't known. But there is an external world, otherwise there is no way you could be part...

But again that would require there to be an external world, one which you doubt is true. You see how that doesn't really add up? There is nothing to s...

They do, well not for that but shame is a thing in social animals.

It's self refuting if you think about it. Like if there is no "External world" that kinda renders philosophy moot.

Nope, not how it works. The fact that it's unconscious means you cannot be aware of it, no matter how much more aware you become. It's out of the scop...

That's kinda the point. We imagine the cave and what we think being out of it looks like, but the reality is we can never know. Pretty sure solipsism ...

Nope, just nothing. It does mean something, it means the meaning of life is our invention, we created the concept. Also as for animals that can think,...

It's not really a matter of that, there seems to be no purpose to life and as such we are able to make one. It looks to be that simple. You're not rea...

It's not though, the meaning of life is both a thought and a feeling, that doesn't mean I can explain it as such. Plenty of books have also been writt...

Well we can't really be aware of our internal mental processes since much of it happens unconsciously. The irony though is that philosophy also shows ...

Well you could just become a Pyrrhonist and say "nuts to all that".

Yeah, I was never really good at telling when people online are bullshitting or not. That or I'm so easily impressed I just accept it because they hav...

That's generally the main issue I hear people talk about with philosophy, it doesn't really enhance our lives.

Well profound might be more open to interpretation than anything else. Plenty of things are problematic without being profound. I wouldn't say it's di...

I don't think that's true, that it's not thoughts or feelings since those things are where we get the notion of a meaning for life. There isn't anythi...

It's not really that so much as wondering if there is a point that is valid or I'm just being incredibly gullible again. I don't have a good filter fo...

You say that but he cared enough to leave an (IMO "pissy" comment) when I questioned his notion of purpose in another thread I made so who knows TBH. ...

Yeah but if the bar is that low you could make the case for any sort of ticket machine being a philosopher since it "Accepts or rejects some set of va...

Well judging by the last thread I made about it the dude doesn't really respond to any critiques of what he says so I want a second opinion from peopl...

Right but the point in the link was that everyone is one which is what I disagree with. Most people I argue don't really think much about why things a...

I'm going to assume that's sarcasm because in the same post he links to how all that is pointless: https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-most-profound-tho...

Well part of me thinks he comes of as a crazy sage who's seen some truth because he uses words like semantics and syntax and cites Wittgenstein a lot,...

That's sorta what I meant when I told him in the "big picture" there is no purpose and he got majorly defensive, saying that: To which I would reply, ...

Yeah to me that just didn't track and his reply to me just sorta felt like a strawman. I'm also not really sold on how he thinks we make meaning: Even...

I have a hard time articulating my thoughts and everything just comes out at once, even though I know the point I'm trying to make. My main point was ...

No, purpose is a property that is conferred by something external, it implies design. It's the reason the watchmaker analogy fails as an argument for ...

I guess from the link he was trying to infer to some greater level of it and I disagreed with that notion. Like there is no objective purpose because ...

It can be whatever you want to be because there is no purpose to it. But I'm mostly referring to the argument I made in the link.

I dunno, I just chalk it up to life’s complicated. If im honest I don’t really have much to say about the nature of reality and all that. But I don’t ...

Well the was someone on here who claimed the mind is fiction or something, but that’s just wrong since our experience of reality itself is all mind. O...

That would still be the chemicals causing that love you have for your dog. I mean you can just look at people who use recreational drugs to see that t...

Or to put it bluntly, if we do things we like because it feels good and we enjoy it then why not plug in and skip having to do the thing? Just get the...

Because it's the chemicals causing the feeling, not the thing. That could be due to status quo bias, emotions seem to be getting in the way when the r...

I found this thread but the argument advanced in it is pretty weak: https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/9577/the-experience-machine-and-preferen...

The glaring hole in the argument is that this assumes people know what makes them happy and what life they want, research however seems to show otherw...

You're not though, you're implying that knowing about chemicals is due to information processing but that's not what's going on here. The reason you f...

Does it matter? Doesn't change how they impact us and how they are the reason we feel what we feel.

That’s the illusion, it’s really just the chemicals. It is that simple and our stories making it to be more than what it really is. Without those chem...

It’s not so much a question of meaning more like if the feelings are due to chemicals there is no reason to seek the experience and you can just plug ...

Meaningful experiences don't tend to be about something else, it only seems that way due to the chemicals in us. You don't actually have love for your...

In some sense, yes. You seem to have a very...limited view of what nature is. Mind is part of nature after all. If was assume nature is some godlike e...

I'm just trying to understand what he's saying.

That's not really true, it's just that we are social animals, that's all. They do that because they don't really have much else. If it were easier the...

Part of me also just likes the unpredictability of reality and how we don't always get what we want. I dunno if you can just reduce it all down to jus...

I don’t think you do, nor did you engage with my point. It is, the thought experiment has nothing to do with whether you think matter exists or not. H...