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This makes me think of a Marilyn Manson song called mOBSCENE

I guess if you're applying Epicurus to this he could say 1) there are multiple gods instead of 1 god 2) he could say that death is nothing to be feare...

Yeah I like this. This is interesting to research.

Yeah I guess in that sense there'd would have to be a distinction by what is truly meant: - is there an external voice aside from one's one mind (in d...

let's put a Cartesian skepticism label on it.

So it looks like what we’ve done here is eliminated possibilities but we never answered any questions about “why”? It seems that the first question is...

So it looks like what we "weaved" here is: Epicurus Newton Einstein NASA Descartes

I found this on standford encylopedia about Newton's idea of space: "Absolute space, in its own nature, without relation to anything external, remains...

I guess there was another possibility not mentioned relating to original OP: in relation to - "is this the kind of thing that has motion?" The possibi...

ah -- now I remember -- the idea of "a black void, void of anything" is an epicurian type idea (greek atomists) the idea of simple space relating to N...

EDIT: I just realized something: when we get to the question - "is this the kind of thing that has motion?" It seems we have two possibilities here IN...

"And the game never ends ... " :) Thanks for the response, I was thinking about how to approach this.

^^ edit: someone could also say - "the game never ends when the whole world depends on a turn of a friendly card" - a.p.p.

So it could be a thing that could be known to you, but exceptionally unclear to an outside observer. However, it could also be questioned - what is it...

Ok, that makes sense. :eyes:

Sounds good. (Trailing a lawyer who was trailing an ambulance, driven by Dr. Hyppocrates?)

Very interesting. Thanks.

In VR not so much, in the "true" external world, probably. Btw ... nice link.

This makes me think of a NOFX song called "bath of least resistance"

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Perhaps you would want to ask what could be true of reality? 1) We are in a dream or a simulation, which does not allow us to have free will. However,...

When you ask the question, "does the deck contain a blue jack" ? ... perhaps it makes sense to focus on the response: "I don't know?" Does "I don't kn...

Definitely, thanks! I'll take a look at it as well.

You've presented quantum mechanics. That is empiricism. It's even the quote you posted, it said these scientists are empiricists. A a priori conceptio...

The points you've made are grounded in empiricism. If the arguments don't clash head on, there's no reason for me to argue further.

I don't believe we need to tie anything together. This is very simple. You present empiricism. And my argument is for a priori.

There can be similarities, however, this argument is for a priori. Your arugment is for empiricism.

I don't believe you are arguing for a perfect a priori reasoning. Sure, you can say it goes in one line. But that's again your interpretation of this....

I believe I've used empirical examples, but have maintained a priori reasoning. It seems like what you're saying is that since my argument is grounded...

I'm not sure if your summary of the article is accurate. This is something direct from that NY Times article titled "Even Physicists Don't Understand ...

I guess on one hand you could say this - there was a New York times article in 2019 titled: "Even Physicists Don't Understand Quantum Mechanics." But ...

Now that I think about your post more. :chin: I have another comment ... Perhaps this is already the case from OP. If nothingness is ad infinitum (inf...

I'm afraid I cannot emphasize any of these things in relation to my argument, as they are once more grounded in empiricism. However, aside from that, ...

Thank you for your lengthy and well thought out comment. I will have to read through your post multiple times, as there is lots of information there. ...

Definitely. I will take a look. Thanks!

Hello. Thanks! Ok I think I see what you're saying. Based on the argument I presented, that would depend on our definition of nothing.

I guess you are saying that part of our mind that is unconscious somehow extends to that which we cannot perceive in our every day life. That what we ...

Null set - would that mean that the state of nothingness has a measure of zero? Or absolute zero? What would that imply about ad infinitum? In this ca...

Thanks! I appreciate your comment. I must nonetheless leave room for "something from nothing" argument. It is an argument brought up not only here but...

I was thinking that maybe one of the readers, if they wanted to, could make a suggestion. In this discussion I am making the case that you could say t...

Yes here, I am using a sub-particle in this kind of an example, but as I mentioned, something else could be used as a better substitute. Yes, as you s...

I like this point Ree Zen.

It's definitely one of the oldest questions about the universe. Yes, it seems like a contradiction, as to how a state of nothingness, completely void ...

For that, I think you'd need to study empty vacuum of space void of anything to further clarify the issue. We're only thinking here :) I'm afraid. Non...

Just remembered something about 'something from nothing' universe: virtual particles can appear out of nothingness and disappear into nothingness. I g...

I think you'd have to better clarify the definition of nothingness and the modern ideas behind spontaneous creation from nothingness. I'd rather not g...

I guess to this some Theists may say that they do not believe in medicine or going to the doctor, but their "cult," the Christian Scientist Church, wo...

But maybe we've strayed too much from your original argument. Perhaps you should re-ask the question and someone else can answer it.

I believe you are entitled to those beliefs :)

So is only Christianity right? Islam is wrong. What about the Jews? Are they kinda right or completely wrong?