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I see transcendence as central to religion,, and ritual, although prominent in many religious contexts, is not so in all, as I said earlier in this th...

I think Dennett claims something along these lines; that experience and consciousness are either epiphenoma or a kind of illusion. Good point. I guess...

I tend to think with Kant that the senses without concepts would be "blind", but I don't think that entails that without language there are no concept...

Is anything found there that does not come, ultimately, from the senses?

In regard to the question whether the senses play a part; how do we later find out it was a plane?

Haha, so only the "great philosophers" question religion (read "all collective social phenomena"?)? Or do the ordinary philosophers also question, but...

Right. I probably haven't read the thread thoroughly enough. I've since watched the video, and he does mention Hegel in that connection. I have to say...

Interesting...I'd broaden the 'questioning' part to questioning tradition and established values, including religion. Also, identifying unexamined ass...

Agreed, but I was pointing out that it is not the only role of philosophy, which saying that is what philosophy is for seems to suggest.

I'd say this is a specifically modern conception of philosophy. Ancient philosophy, "philosophy as a way of life" as Pierre Hadot argues, consisted in...

That makes sense to me. So, the question could become: 'could all human activities, the whole of civilization and its products have been produced 'bli...

Well. yes, since definitions are codifications of usages.

So 'analytic' for you just means 'true by virtue of some current definition'?

Here is what the Bingbot had to say in answer to the same question:

What if, however unlikely it might seem, dogs turned out, on further investigation, not to be mammals? A better example might be the related understan...

My faith in the senses is only relative to the collective representation we call the phenomenal world, and I don't think they are infallible either. I...

Right, and as I said if there were no experiential dimension there would be nothing else either, so putting the question as to why there is experience...

If it were all just physical information processing and there were no experiential dimension, then there would be no one to find anything, nothing to ...

I would say there was a belief in a hierarchy of persons and a hierarchy of levels of reality and that the wise have a "rare and unordinary faculty in...

We know that the meanings of the terms 'bachelor' and 'unmarried' man were considered to be synonymous, when it was perhaps considered unthinkable tha...

What I meant was that everyday empirical observations are intersubjectively confirmable, and this doesn't require a cultural context. For example: "It...

Chill out, I was just joking, and not even at your expense.

:up:

And you are probably right: "ship of fools" and all that...

I'm laughing, so you must be doing a great job. :joke:

1. I think it is more that certainty is desired, than truth. That said, no one is going to feel certain unless they have been able to convince themsel...

From the Bing AI, when I asked it this question: "can there be any evidence for the veracity of intellectual intuition":

There is no intersubjectively definitive way to determine whether something is the case regarding the veracity of purportedly pure intellectual insigh...

Of course, the ritual there is an aesthetic elaboration or formalization of the ordinary event, which is itself more or less ritualized, of drinking t...

Right, but you need to be present when the name is first applied, or to be informed later that the name has been applied. I could say, for example, th...

I agree, but that a person was baptized with a particular name entails that the name refers to that person seems to be a somewhat trivial truth; a tru...

The problem with names for persons and places is that more than one may have the same name, and that is where descriptions may need to come in to dete...

:up: I don't buy the idea that designators can ever function adequately without reliance on descriptions anyway.

I think the best basis for moral values is human harmony and flourishing. Science cannot tell us what to do, per se, but it may help to determine just...

Yes, I understand that there are possible nuances, and that's why I brought it up; it shows that the statement "a bachelor is an unmarried man" is not...

I agree that, for example, holy days can become everyday holidays. I was thinking of more elaborately symbolic ceremonies like the Catholic Eucharist ...

I've attended Zen groups here in Australia where there was virtually none of that. You commit the fallacy of over-generalizing. And, I was not talking...

:up: Just to complicate matters, as I understand it brahman is thought as being both immanent and transcendent.

There is always some ritual or ceremony in all human dealings. I haven't denied there is much ritual and ceremony in some religions. All I said was I ...

It certainly looks that way. What's your point

Can you point to any religion that does not have some notion of transcendence as central?

Communal prayer and meditation don't count as pomp and ceremony in my book. Of course, there will always be minimal observances. If you have an actual...

Not to be pedantic, but does an unmarried man in a de facto relationship count as a bachelor, or must a bachelor live alone? Then what counts as livin...

Right, and...? :up: I agree. I'm not convinced the rituals and traditions can survive without the "supernatural and spiritual elements" that motivated...

Like you I don't think we can see beyond what our experiences allows, and I also acknowledge altered states of consciousness. But I don't believe in a...

No worries, mate. :smile:

:up: I agree.

I'd say intelligibility, logic and maths and morality are, if not empirical, then transcendental, not transcendent unless you impute a higher realm wh...

I would not say that the essence of religion is about establishing order and control, although of course religion has been used politically to try to ...

Right, South Korea seems to be an example of a political leader being treated as a kind of god and savior. Also, the notion of dialectical inevitably ...