That quote refers to "objects", but it does not explain how those purported objects qualify as objects beyond their conceptual, abstract dimension. So...
The textbook explanation is parasitic upon the experience of a world of tangible objects. Only a fool would deny that. I'm making no claim about the "...
I think you're confusing yourself by over-thinking this. You're conflating talk about the experience with the actual experience. Try feeling some obje...
I agree with your analysis here. In fact to say that nature is constructed from number, or some such kind of metaphysical claim, as for example Tegmar...
If something counts as an object in the sense that @"Alethiest" stipulates, then it certainly exists. If qualities exist, or subsist, only in their in...
Well, I suppose it depends on your definition of object. I do agree that qualities have an objective (meaning mind-independent in the sense that they ...
Of course my notion of it is an abstraction, but material concreteness is experienced. If it weren't we would have no way of differentiating between t...
Right, so the illusion of an external world (in case there wasn't one) would not be a false belief that there is an external world? Rrigghhtt.....I th...
Not if there really is a soul. But plenty of people have believed that it is self-evident there is a soul. Those people were under the illusion that t...
I'm not trying to imagine where they exist, but rather what kind of existence they could be said to have. For example fiveness is undoubtedly a charac...
I agree that they are properties, and that properties as conceived can be understood to be conceptual or abstract objects. The problem I have is that ...
Bear in mind that I was originally talking about a train journey between two specific destinations. So, the train would need to pass through both thos...
It seems that two out of three you're preaching to the choir here. Edit: Although, having thought about it a bit more, I'm not so sure the unicorn is ...
No doubt we use mathematics to help (I don't see any reason to believe that mathematics is absolutely essential to the task) decipher the "book of nat...
I'm not clear how this relates to the point about train journeys. The point was just that there is no single real (as opposed to conceptual or abstrac...
What do you mean "doesn't follow"? It follows according to your own argument: I said, You replied, Which means according to your own argument that sin...
The problem I see with this is that if a mathematical "object", say the number five, has no existence apart from its concrete representations, then it...
We think there is shared meaning. If there is no real plurality of minds then there is no real shared meaning. We experience an apparent plurality of ...
Shared meaning requires at least the illusion of a plurality of minds. I'm not claiming that the apparent plurality of minds is an illusion; I tend to...
You can't prove that solipsism is false, so as usual you resort to casting aspersions on the one who has shown you to be mistaken. Of course I agree t...
Again this assumes that the others you share meaning with are not products of your own mind, or for a more universal solipsism, products of the one mi...
How do you know that cognition requires an external world (as opposed to, say, merely the idea of an external world)? I don't know what you are drivin...
Just before saying "One mind is not different things." you said: If ones thoughts about "one's own thought and belief' (or anything else) consist in d...
What if what we understand to be "cosmic unity" is due to the fact that everything is 'at bottom' (in terms of the so-called quantum vacuum, say) irre...
Nothing in the quoted passage explains what kind of existence (apart from the 'ideal' existence they have insofar as they are thought by humans) these...
I'm not interested in considering Relativity theory in the context of this discussion. Spacetime is a theoretical construct; the question of its mind ...
Yes, but you haven't explained what kind of existence such purported objects might have, beyond being concrete (would be able to be sensed if the appr...
The problem for Platonists is that they have failed to, and apparently cannot, explain in what sense the purported Platonic objects exist, or are real...
I haven't said that the objective existence of anything depends on its actually being sensed; I have said that our idea of objective existence comes f...
No, you experience many actual collections of objects; trees, dogs, parks, cities, people, etc, etc, but you only imagine or think of arbitrary collec...
Yes these kinds of objections to Platonism occurred quite early on in the form of questions such as "But is there a perfect form of the turd, or the p...
Really? If you care to actually back one of your claims up, then quote something I wrote and show how it counts as an "application of paraconsistent l...
What's the point in telling me about something you were going to attempt to do? :roll: I don't believe you. You don't experience an arbitrary collecti...
If we observe that some things are physically interacting and hence connected, then that is our experience and understanding, which you have already a...
I don't deny the objects are "out there". I can, and do, deny the collectedness (read "connectedness") of things which are "loosely (read "arbitrarily...
Kant: "The only thing which might be called an addition, though in the method of proof only, is the new refutation of psychological idealism, and the ...
In this context arbitrariness could be understood to be inversely proportional to physical connection as i already explained. So, the animal body is n...
If we can think about something we know that it at least exists in our thoughts. If we want to impute additional existence to it beyond that we need s...
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