Janus

No, I didn't ask for that. I said that in principle an act can only be immoral if it causes harm to the individual doing it, or to others, or to the c...

Of course any explanation for human behavior will be either physiological, psychological or ideological, but I'm more interested in trying to call it ...

Sure, I don't think anyone is "perfectly rational", although some are more rational than others. What is puzzling to me is that someone who is obvious...

Sure, I do agree that there may be great beauty revealed by science; but it seems it is like nature, not like the arts; that is it seems to be aesthet...

Puzzling it is...and annoying! But I seem to be controlling myself for now... :halo:

Sorry, Wallows, but I can't see any relevance here to the points in question.

Yes, I agree, but I'm not too sure about science being the "pinnacle of aesthetic achievement".

Sadly, you're probably right. :groan:

Yeah, well what does that say about the populace? Perhaps the US authorities don't care that he revealed the footage of the gleeful shooting of innoce...

Are you claiming that all persons are subject to the laws of all countries, even if they are neither citizens of, nor residing, nor traveling, in the ...

If you are not a citizen of a country then you are not subject to its laws unless you are in that country.

No one seems to be able to say what law he has broken. Also Assange is not a US citizen.

I guess that could be a point, but I think it would be a difficult argument to make that just because some activity is illegal it is therefore necessa...

It's still not clear to me just what the issue is, though. I don't see how the illegality, per se, of a drug makes it harmful to the community. And ha...

What's the alleged crime?

There must be an allegation that a crime has been committed to support indictment. Reckless disregard for individual lives is not an indictable offens...

No, it's not that; it's that you haven't provided any argument for why it should be thought that he has committed any crime worthy of indictment. You ...

I think Assange is unquestionably a "persecuted whistleblower", and he may well be "loopy" and "narcissistic and megalomaniacal" but none of that per ...

What if the drugs are magic mushrooms, that were grown at home or picked in the fields? Where's the necessary harm in that? Your reference to source s...

I do agree that releasing such details is careless and irresponsible, but is it a crime? Also, was Assange still in control of what was released in 20...

I haven't said Assange is a "white knight". I see no reason to doubt he is a flawed human being just like the rest of us. The real issue is over wheth...

Actually, "collateral damage" usually refers to harms done to civilians. The US informants in Iraq were not civilians in this context at all, but oper...

As somebody already pointed out, Assange did try to help his informant, Manning, to conceal his identity. The "informants" you speak of here were not ...

if what you say were true then there are no independent, alternative news sources that count as journals. Basically bullshit!

Does the harm only ensue on account of the drug being illegal?? If so, explain why. Also, you didn't answer my question re alcohol. Let's deal with th...

I still don't understand why you think any community, let's consider just the immediate family, for example, is necessarily harmed by one of their mem...

I think you're tendentiously exaggerating what I have said in your first response and bringing in extraneous considerations (the viewer thoughts, resp...

A very limited, that is Eurocentric, perspective! I would not agree that philosophy is politics, although it could be said that any philosophy has pol...

Of course it should be considered ! Isn't that the purpose of this thread; to ask us to consider just that question? It's like creating a thread title...

Can you justify your claim that taking illegal drugs necessarily harms the community? On the face of it, that seems like a ridiculous statement.

I think that is a possibility that comes with mastery of symbolically sophisticated language; historically it is a late cultural development. I don't ...

How can you find something inadequate or disagree with it prior to studying it? Of course it you disagreed with the whole idea of some discipline, say...

I see in things what I see in things, and experience tells me that whatever I can see others can also see, or come to see. But it is also not merely a...

When it comes to social animals I think it has to do, not with the survival of lone individuals, where competition would be paramount, but with the su...

Your pity is misplaced: He is His Own Champion, a Legend in His Own Mind.

As it is said, there is no good answer to a stupid question.

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True, the aesthetic dimension of experience is free of inherent responsibility, and that is probably a part of it's attraction. Although, having said ...

I actually do, and have had since I was born; so it has nothing to do with your existence or your "philosophy"; although you may have some difficulty ...

Obviously, morally significant behavior has actual effects on people's lives, in fact that is what defines it.

And also, let us not forget, aesthetic response to the natural world. Agreed: all models are simply models, and can never be what they are modeling.

All human interpersonal behavior is morally significant, and it obviously does not occur in brains; so no, it is not a phenomenon that occurs only in ...

Moral behavior is not brain activity, and does not merely involve brain activity, although brain activity may be considered to play a part.

No, they,re laughing because you are either naked or your clothes are transparent! :rofl:

So, you're not suggesting that it or they should be of any significance to me?

Sure, so you're prescribing a shared normative protocol?

We? This little fly has a hard-learned aversion to flypaper...

The literalist tyranny of the bleeding obvious!

Magnificent what?

Your analogy says that you will settle for a car because a plane is our of your reach. But it's not a good analogy anyway because at least a car is us...