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I am not familiar enough with Aristotle's treatment of intuition to comment on that. Regarding your example, wouldn't you say that the observed connec...

Right, I agree with Pierre Hadot and you on that.

If beliefs and actions appear to support thriving and happiness in oneself and others, then I would say they count as wise beliefs and actions. i don'...

Perhaps, but I'm an enthusiast for Aristotle's idea of phronesis—commonly translated as "practical wisdom". I think wisdom is, and can only be, tested...

That prompts no disagreement—it all makes sense to me.

Yes it always by definition one unique individual path, whether one follows one traditional path, many traditional paths at the same or different time...

OK it seems I misinterpreted what we're saying. I agree we are not isolated individuals; we always live and think within a received cultural matrix.

I think on that point we will remain in disagreement. I see the arts and free-thinking philosophy as alternative "ways" to following any of the "exter...

I agree with what you say there that there is only one path for the individual, but paths may cross another and even more so as they approach the top ...

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My familiarity with Peirce doesn't extend to scholar status, so I'm not sure whether I would class him as an objective idealist. From the reading I ha...

I wasn't seeking to depreciate the importance of survival, which might have been the impression you received it seems. I should have written "bare sur...

Funny you should say that because I deliberately refrained form using the terms merely believing or merely faith. Faith and belief are incredibly impo...

It seems to me you are being pedantic, playing with words. What you suggest would be true of any question other than critical questions dealing with h...

You mean what if these forms of personal conviction really are higher knowledge of reality? My question is how that could ever be demonstrated or know...

Now we appear to have come full circle back to a point of apparent disagreement. What you say, "It's only for the select few" and the quoted passage f...

OK, I agree that freely chosen submission to authority is fair enough and may be the way for some or even many people; but I don't accept that it must...

What if wisdom consists in ataraxia, though? What if it consists in simply following your inclinations and conscience, of being yourself fearlessly, a...

I am happy with the idea of obedience to the "still small voice" of conscience, but I accept no external authority. Thanks for reminding me...an overs...

I'm OK with humility, but I have no truck with obedience; that is for pets and children.

I'm not going to react angrily against that. I may have reacted impatiently against that in the past because I don't think it is in any sense justifie...

I don't think this is universally true. Peirce, the pragmat(ic)ist I am most familiar was certainly very familiar with the philosophies of both Kant a...

You don't think that having a desire for something can become a problem until it is satisfied?

All I've been saying is that this purported fact can never be demonstrated in the sense that what is counted as knowledge can. I don't rule out the po...

Even if that were so what is understand to count as knowing in the common sense of "knowing that" is democratic, not cultic or elitist, not confined t...

My take is different. I think we don't recognize gnosis, noesis and so on as 'knowledge that' because 'knowledge that' should be determinably communic...

:up: If natural human curiosity be considered a problem I guess the pragmatists may have a point.

All I can say is that we must be working with very different notions of what constitutes knowledge then, in which case we will only keep talking past ...

I agree with this; it may indeed be so; all I have been arguing is that we cannot know that it is.

You, through Einstein you are making my point for me: "The human mind, no matter how highly trained, cannot grasp the universe." I did and continue to...

This wasn't addressed to me, but it's such a funny kind of ironic question that I can't resist an answer. Surely the "problem" here would be the desir...

Yes, I am not arguing against it being part of the myth; it is the fact that it is part of the myth, and that the idea cannot be counted as knowledge ...

Sure it is meant to include an awakening. To be free of ego and it's delusions would be to wake up. But the further claim is that the awakened sage kn...

Yes, I realized that the first is conviction that someone else knows and the second is conviction that oneself knows. Still both just amount to convic...

OK, 'composing' will do. as I was thinking of it rehearsing and composing are the same. Whatever you want to call 'thinking before you speak' the comp...

This doesn't answer the question. If there were some determinable truth about "life the universe and everything" which was directly and infallibly kno...

I think you meant Lord Rees. Lloyd Rees was an Australian painter. A further point about secular culture. The right to practice a religion of choice (...

If you don't mean to be an apologist for any religion or "otherworldlyness", or any kind of claim that there is some special "hidden" knowledge which ...

If you think before you speak, how could you do so if not rehearsing what will say; that is by "speaking" inwardly? I don't deny that there is the 'an...

This passage shows the author chasing a mirage, "a 'difference' that makes no difference". What could having no doubt or uncertainty be other than con...

Their being true is not a matter of opinion, but our believing that they are true is. In other words we cannot know with certainty what is true. Socra...

There are indeed no universal criteria available. If there were all sufficiently thoughtful people would agree with one another, because the universal...

:up: My only quibble: is reason (beyond the most basic concrete animal kinds) possible without language? As to good cognac I can offer you only the re...

:up: Yes, unfortunate, but seemingly inevitable.

The three ways of conceiving knowledge, unlike human beings, are not afflicted with jealousy. Personally I think we need all three to cover all the ba...

Certainly we cannot know that anything that cannot be put into words is the case. We know how to do many things the way of knowing of which cannot be ...

That doesn't sound right to me. To say something is the case evokes the very propositional character of knowing whose limitations are in question. We ...

I think we know many things which cannot be put into words or at least definitively explained in words. Much of what we know is pre-cognitive, but I d...

Yes 'brot' or 'pain' both refer to bread, otherwise what would we be talking about?

Note I said "most universal" not 'only or absolutely universal'. I meant universal in the sense of general. Do you have a criticism of those criteria,...