Janus

The second statement quoted there explains the first. So, why bring it up again? In ancient times the collective representation of the world said the ...

No I never asserted that the world can be false. Perhaps you could quote where I've said that. The RHS expresses a state of affairs, which may or may ...

So, tell us what your understanding is and just how you think my account is garbled, just what errors you think I have made in that account. If you ca...

What I said is in line with the well-worn use/ mention distinction which you apparently don't understand.

I don't have anything like Kant's noumena in mind, so it seems that you are not understanding what I;m saying. The "pre-linguistic actuality" I have i...

Have you encountered the 'use/ mention' distinction? The LHS is the mention of the linguistic expression itself. Remember the RHS is not to be thought...

The difference being that we can say what kettles, tables or teacups are, but not so Jabberwockies, it would seem.

I don't much like the subjective/ objective framing. I was just pointing out that the absurdity of carving initials on a perception, which creative wa...

Creativesoul asked: What I meant is that seeing a tree, feeling its bark and leaves, carving your initials into it, climbing it and so on are all perc...

It is all perception: I perceive trees, carving my initials, climbing and so on.

It seems to me that perception must be conceptually mediated even for animals insofar as it seems that animals are capable of "seeing as". This ties i...

I agree with you about the vagaries of ordinary language, and the limits of logic's capacity to formalize what we do with ordinary language. All our t...

I think this approach is in line with Kant, with Wittgenstein's "the world is the totality of facts..." and with Davidson's proposal to dissolve the d...

I posited an actuality we experience; i didn't say it is an actual world. I said that the world is a collective representation that we do have discurs...

Really? The whole world? What does it look like?

Our perceptions and conceptions evolve out of experience, individually and collectively. We know that we experience images, we never perceive whole th...

I'm not saying the world as a whole could be false, but that even some things which are taken to be facts might turn out to be inconsistent with subse...

We don't experience the world, we experience images and sensations, and due to pattern, repetition and recognition, and in conjunction with communicat...

If the world is a collective representation, why can it not be false. Lived experience cannot be false, but anything we say or think about it can be.

As I've said already, I think the RHS relates to the world, but the world is a perceptually and conceptually evolved static collective representation,...

No, that is the point; we know that all our identifications and definitions are static abstractions derived from, filtered from so to speak, our actua...

There is, as a kind of ground to all our propositions, truths and facts, a pre-linguistic actuality to which they must submit. Analysis and conceptual...

This is a very tricky thing to talk about. Of course I agree that there is a pre-linguistic. non-linguistic actuality, and we can intuitively, that is...

"What is the case" is meaningless beyond what is communally perceived and conceived to be the case. We can get no purchase on it, and so, to use one o...

You've misunderstood. Of course truth gets a grip on the world, but what is the world if not "what is perceived or conceived to be the case" or if you...

Sounds about right...

Paul Simon knew: "The Sound Of Silence" Hello, darkness, my old friend I've come to talk with you again Because a vision softly creeping Left its seed...

Right, I agree one time would be too much to expect except in the case of genius perhaps, so it is probably by coming at it from a variety of examples...

That all sounds about right. We can know the sequence of the 26 letters of the English alphabet without knowing what number in the sequence each lette...

Counting without understanding quantity would just be a meaningless regurgitation of words. I have nothing further to say on this.

That series of numerals I presented was not meant to represent anything other than the series of numerals that it is. You could have a series of the n...

:up: I have no idea what that means.

Of course there are: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8......at each point in that series represented by a different numeral, the number of numerals, including th...

Sure, I'm not trying to establish a theory of teaching numbers, but counting is not counting without things to be counted. The notion of quantity is e...

Two being after one means nothing without a notion of quantity.

We are going to have to agree to disagree. In my view the meaning of the words must be learnt by reference to numbers of objects. How would you explai...

The idea of truth is always and only the idea of an isomorphic relation of 'fit' between what is said and what is perceived or conceived to be the cas...

So, Schopenauer is not even a second rater, in your view? Interesting post! After further digestion, if I have any questions or concerns, I'll come ba...

Leaving aside the possibility that our notions of particles and waves, derived as they are from our experience, are not applicable at all in the quant...

Take it up with Banno; the term was not introduced by me.

The fact that snow is white, snow being white, is a fact or state of affairs, not a proposition. What is stated in the sentence "snow is white" is the...

Speaking about something, or conceptualizzing it, are not the same as imagining it. We can conceptualize a dimensionless point, but cannot imagine it.

There is a sentence which expresses the proposition that snow is white and there is the fact that snow is white. So the two are materially equivalent,...

There is a material equivalence between "snow is white" and the fact that snow is white. We can also say there is a correspondence. These supposed cou...

I didn't have my sub in mind, but then no doubt it's true that all subs have holes in them, even if they haven't appeared yet.

I think there are things which are simply unimaginable as I said, and it is those things I am referring to, not things which change; which we can come...

Material equivalence is usually thought of as obtaining between two propositions, or not. If two propositions have the same truth values on every row ...

That's not what I had in mind. No one can imagine a round square, or that something could be both red and green all over. In general, we are unable to...

"Dasein" means 'being there' or 'there being'. Heidegger means that dasein's being is an issue for dasein. "To be or not to be, that is the question"....

The idea of fallibilism in relation to belief makes sense, but not so much in relation to knowledge. To be fallible is to be possibly wrong and if kno...