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Another thought about how to approach the connection between information and semantic content ... When a U-boat sends a coded message, there is an in-...
October 11, 2017 at 18:09
I want to go where people know people are all the same.
October 11, 2017 at 06:28
Well that's what the whole thread is about, so just asserting it seems ... unhelpful. Besides "relies on" ? "is".
October 10, 2017 at 23:30
When I was in high school on the JV soccer team, some of us played the last part of the varsity season on that team after our season ended. We would r...
October 10, 2017 at 23:29
Yes but we don't utter abstractions, which might be part of Landauer's point. If I sound dead certain about all this, that's an illusion.
October 10, 2017 at 23:21
The short answer is: to avoid crap like this. The predicate logic we use was designed to formalize mathematics. It's supposed to help, not hinder, and...
October 10, 2017 at 23:17
Yeah but, your post isn't made of abstract types, it's made of concrete tokens, which brings us right back to where we started from. Hurray!
October 10, 2017 at 22:44
That just means the soft sciences are harder.
October 10, 2017 at 22:37
You can't do this in classical logic because you would need the predicates "… is a statement" and "… is false". You can't have either of those. Classi...
October 10, 2017 at 22:26
If your point is only that this sentence can't be represented within classical logic, then duh. I still say the English sentence in question can justi...
October 10, 2017 at 22:04
Hey Sam. I'm looking back at the criteria you offered as candidates for judging the strength of an argument based on eyewitness testimony, and there's...
October 10, 2017 at 21:57
You can make the inference if you like, but the second version is also false, as I showed a month ago. I'll do it again: Let S be "S is false and all ...
October 10, 2017 at 18:27
Exactly so. What Burt Dreben meant when he said, "Great philosophers don't argue."
October 10, 2017 at 08:52
Let's say I find the former more interesting than the latter, and you're the opposite. It's nice. No-- but then the foundation for this question has n...
October 10, 2017 at 07:50
I just don't see the need to jump from information-using all the way to Husserl. Plants use information. Insects. I don't see Mind there, I just see a...
October 10, 2017 at 07:16
We very nearly agree, I think. I see squirrels but not avalanches as information-using, until shown the error of my ways. On the other hand, despite t...
October 10, 2017 at 06:58
Does the squirrel know that it is hiding food? Maybe?! Does it choose to do this after considering the alternatives of perhaps leaving it out in plain...
October 10, 2017 at 05:52
If so, I ignored it. ;-)
October 10, 2017 at 03:51
I think I'm getting it. If it looked like someone was saying the data have to be quantitative or you're not doing science, no, nobody was saying that,...
October 10, 2017 at 03:12
Yeah I could see that as a motivation. It seems to me though, that once everything's mental, explaining why some things appear not to be is the new Ha...
October 10, 2017 at 03:01
Can you take another pass at this? I don't disagree with anything here but I'm not sure what the connection is ...
October 10, 2017 at 02:36
Honestly, it seems like what happens is the standard "I've received a signal" response but with language that process is sandboxed most of the time. (...
October 10, 2017 at 01:29
How kind of you to add to my reading list!
October 10, 2017 at 01:16
I'm with you there. I don't understand it. I can see how a simple "causal" signal between animals would work, but even though language is similar to t...
October 10, 2017 at 01:14
No, the way I put that sounds backwards, doesn't it? Landauer's theory blocks some imaginable Maxwell's demon type systems by pointing out the cost of...
October 10, 2017 at 00:56
I start by distinguishing, let's say, "obvious" output and "not obvious": the difference between, say, on the one hand, dominoes falling in sequence, ...
October 10, 2017 at 00:51
? It's the central test case. If you can gather information about the state of a system without spending free energy to record that information (or to...
October 09, 2017 at 22:03
I was afraid you would ask that. Yes, I would think so, but it's not an area I know. Even without getting into neuroscience, there's various ways you ...
October 09, 2017 at 07:14
Can I what? Explain how life arose on Earth? No. If your argument is that I, Srap Tasmaner can't explain it, then you win, man. If you mean that no on...
October 09, 2017 at 06:57
Jeremiah's point is just this: what you are counting here, your data, is categorical rather than itself being quantitative. The fact that you counted ...
October 09, 2017 at 06:37
I just don't see how you get from the "haven't" we could all agree on to the "can't" you insist on. As you're reading Life's Ratchet, keep an eye on t...
October 09, 2017 at 05:43
Admittedly, not my cup of tea, so I appreciate your patience with me. From my point of view, it looks like a change in vocabulary. Does it look like s...
October 09, 2017 at 04:15
Wow. Thanks for the very thorough answer, since I don't know Whitehead at all. Here's what I don't get right off though: we're trying to understand th...
October 09, 2017 at 03:57
Is "panexperientialism" going to include, say, rocks? Clouds? Neutrinos? Supposing it does, does that solve your problem? Maybe you allow something "e...
October 09, 2017 at 03:27
But there's not something it's like to be sawgrass, right? Is there something it's like to be E. Coli?
October 09, 2017 at 03:12
Do dogs have souls? How about the most recent common ancestor of dogs and us? Yes? What about spiders? What about the most recent common ancestor of u...
October 09, 2017 at 03:08
<shrug> Mathematics is certainly not an empirical science. And it has a different notion of evidence. (Not just proof but also counterexample.) Even t...
October 08, 2017 at 23:35
Science is systematic common sense. I'm with @"T Clark".
October 08, 2017 at 19:48
A way of classifying 'things' (broadly), I suppose. There's some really abstract classifying it's pretty hard to imagine doing without language, but d...
October 08, 2017 at 05:36
Why not instead say that possession of a concept is always evidenced by behaviour, which in the case of some primates includes the sounds and marks th...
October 08, 2017 at 04:19
Caution's nice. Some of your points look to me like they could be, well, if not "settled" then at least addressed by research. An ape that learned to ...
October 07, 2017 at 05:38
This is becoming abusive @"Rich". I humbly suggest you stick to telling us what you think, and stop telling everyone else what they think. Nobody's as...
October 07, 2017 at 04:52
I am not getting your point. Suppose I was an accomplished mechanic who spoke only German. An English speaker could say truly both that I know how to ...
October 07, 2017 at 03:44
Was that "yes", "no", or "not sure"?
October 07, 2017 at 01:38
Besides which, there are loads of reasons to think this claim is simply false. You'd have to have a language without the logical constants. Even if yo...
October 07, 2017 at 01:21
Read this again. I did it that way specifically to leave room for the conclusion that the claim must not be a statement (i.e., not truth-apt), and tha...
October 07, 2017 at 01:16
I'll throw in Paul Grice too as someone with a theory of meaning that connects "natural meaning"-- what Eco calls "symptoms" in your quote, clouds mea...
October 04, 2017 at 23:33
Yes, this is exactly right. I've had this argument twice with another forum member. To predicate (truly or falsely) of an object does not show that th...
October 04, 2017 at 00:13
I'll agree @"fishfry" was a bit up on his hind legs. I didn't find it rude, but you did, and there's nothing more to say about that. (Might be a Merki...
October 03, 2017 at 23:23
Really? What other way is there to read this: Whether an utterance is an instruction depends on the context and the purpose of the utterance, its inte...
October 03, 2017 at 21:41