I'd be reluctant to call this self-consciousness, but maybe ... Imagine a slightly more schematic version: there's the tree, leaves falling from it, a...
At the very beginning of this thread, I suggested that if you asked a "deflationist" "What is the being of a duck?", he would find the question incomp...
Near as I can tell, the point of all of this is to be able to say that everything is an assemblage; that is, to flatten the ontology of the world. Why...
Some quick hits, substance later. I guess. Hey, so do I! Right. Yes, exactly. I've just now bothered to find that old exchange. Turns out I even used ...
Which I think he also considered as falling somewhere within the pragmatist tradition, much as Quine thought of himself. And he was deeply engaged, as...
@"fdrake" Here's one more note ? not a direct commentary on this exchange, but another spanner I can't resist throwing in the works. There's an interv...
That may be, although I like the story you're telling well enough to have told versions of it myself here on the forum, and pretty recently. I don't t...
When I was a kid, we used to set the table for dinner, always the same way: on the left, fork, sitting on a paper napkin, on the right, knife and spoo...
That might be, in a human-finitude sort of way. But I was saying something stronger: we don't so much tell the truth as reveal it, or at least do our ...
I want to have my cake and eat it though. I have considerable sympathy for all of this, but I'm not convinced it's the whole story. I think we can rec...
I want to take a couple more swipes at treating truth as a predicate. 1. Truth, or some equivalent or substitute, is prior to all the other predicates...
When I was a kid, my family kept some chickens and ducks as pets, I don't know why. Sometimes a fox ? or more often a feral cat ? would get into the p...
In a way, if you put human intellect or human speech on one side and the world on the other, that's an expression of alienation. And there's a long tr...
This is tangential, but I sometimes think the most fundamental position a person takes -- the one that most shapes his or her worldview -- is whether ...
And I don't think that's a terrible first thing to say, but then you have to think about what that relation is and what grounds it. Wittgenstein shows...
I'd say the problem is that you want to put truth on one side and actuality on the other, but they are so closely related that in the Tractatus Wittge...
@"Leontiskos" suggested a spot that already exists, that's all. How people use it ? well, they use it like they use the rest of the forum: being on to...
Do you want to say that? I'm not sure what that's supposed to mean, but be my guest. Clearly. It was a kind of placeholder "I don't know what to put h...
Since this thread is, so I understand, in theory about metaphysics, I'm curious whether you have anything to say about these entities. Are you proposi...
Consider that question for a moment, and then tell me again how it's the bare sentence and not the use made of it that matters. Look, you can treat "i...
I would say that what you described as a "property" of a painting is more accurately described as a relation between a painting and something else tha...
Yes, that was my reservation about saying truth is a property of a sentence. The case of paintings is curious. If you paint a nice picture of a farm, ...
That was the sense in which I was using "interpretation". Using a paperclip as a cotter pin. More or less. Hmmmm. So if you set up your easel in front...
Is it? Shouldn't it at the very least be a property of a pair <sentence, interpretation>? (Or a triple that includes as well a world.) Here's an analo...
Okay. I still can't tell if this is a minor verbal difference between us. So do you read Wittgenstein here as rhetorically casting doubt not only on t...
if you're talking about our ability to improvise and make novel uses of signs, it's good point and one I think Wittgenstein ought to have given more e...
I'd like to come back to this for a moment. These are important milestones for Wittgenstein. And on the next page: The latter passage does have a whif...
The question here ? how can the word "red" be any help getting a red flower ? is wrong-footed, a question that seems to involve selectively forgetting...
A critical step of what? Of understanding an order? Does it go "Step 1: recognize the other person is not just making a noise; Step 2: ... "? What if ...
Philosophy has never shown any inclination to roll over and die. Of course there are two, and maybe three, senses of "philosophy" in Wittgenstein: the...
Absolutely. And it can go the other way -- you can guilt-by-association traditional philosophy, art, religion, anything of the past if you think socie...
I like this. That certainly has the ring of truth! It does also sound like the sort of difference that you might attribute to affect or mood. But that...
My oldest son and his friends have read it, along with Nietzsche, Marx, Camus. The hippy reading list is alive and well in some quarters. I think you'...
I think there's a real question whether supposed views of the past are ever really in play in a contemporary debate, or are people staking out contemp...
This is the vision of cultural transmission as a game of "telephone". @"Wayfarer" frequently makes such suggestions. Two questions though: (1) Is the ...
There are a two main strands to the thread, and this isn't one of them. Which is fine, I was just spitballing. I still find it interesting that ordina...
For the record, it's not my notion, it's what mathematicians call them. A triangle with interior angles of 180/0/0 would be a degenerate triangle. It ...
Btw, it was started to give you a platform for explicitly discussing and defending an idea you often mention in passing, an idea you feel is often rej...
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