Perhaps you can't think of anything interesting that follows from this, but I can. The idea that first cause entities are logically necessary is fasci...
Sure, good example. What you're talking about is measurement of scale. I've written an old post that goes into a theory of knowledge and breaks down t...
Feel free to attempt to show why cause and effect break down then. The idea that only a few people can comprehend this is, in my mind, an excuse for b...
According to my OP, it is actually the opposite that is true. It is impossible for there not to be an uncaused cause. Feel free to critique the OP and...
No, that's not what I'm saying. There is no necessary existence. It is simply that if we are to think about the end logic of causality, it is necessar...
1. Nailed it. I find this exciting, and leads to new questions. Does this mean multiverse for example, is no longer a plausible theory, but almost log...
Lets remember what odds are first however. Odds are a predictive model we use when we are limited in knowing particular information. Lets use an easie...
Isn't measurement a way we measure space? It doesn't matter how small it is, what you are describing fits in space. You also dodged my point about tim...
A first cause has no prior cause. The point of the argument is that this is ultimately the universe will have a first cause origination. If you would ...
How does plank space dodge spacetime? Are you saying it takes up no space? Then it is nothing, or God. I believe we both know arguments that have just...
I have immense gratitude that someone finally took up the argument properly. You may be correct in 4. What I was trying to explain is the consequence ...
If a thing has a reason for its existence, that means something caused it to exist. Explain to me how plank space isn't subject to causality, don't si...
Isn't this the same argument the theists have been making about God for centuries? Considering plank space is only a theory at this point with many un...
Why not? Why can't I simply ask, "What caused the plank scale to exist?" Either something caused it to exist, or it exists simply because it does, wit...
Not a worry. I'm thinking at this point that I did not write a clear enough idea in my desire to keep it within a certain size. That is on me, and no ...
That's very fair. I've been on a computer chips kick in my posts, so I suppose I'll continue with them. A transistor can either be on, or off. If it i...
Honestly, you've lost me at this point. I've given a few clear examples of computers. I'm waiting for you to give me an example of how a computer work...
If I understand you correctly Verdi, you take a more Eastern direction of philosophy. By the way, I do enjoy it, and feel it has its time and place. B...
I feel at this point you have something you want to say. Feel free to. Once I understand the larger point, I think we can get all of your questions ou...
Yes! Isn't that neat? Opposed to multiverse theory being something we entertain for fun, it becomes something we can view as a logically likely realit...
The problem here is you just keep saying an idea, but you're providing no evidence. Try to explain how a computer chip works without causality. If you...
Let define what you mean by perception. When I think of perception, I think of the senses. Then there is interpretation of what those senses perceive....
Nothing ever is! The quantum vacuum is of course only a theory at this time. Many of its postulates are hypothetical. We know certain things are happe...
If that would make things clearer, lets do that. Its about things being a state captured in time, another state captured later in time, and an explana...
Yes! You don't know how good it feels to finally speak with someone who is willing to take the conversation to its conclusion. I realized it after I f...
Verdi, when you press the key on your keyboard to type a message, does the message type? Doesn't the press of the physical key cause the letter to app...
My apologies if I've been confusing. The state of the cue ball in its new velocity is not the same as the cue ball without velocity. This is a "new" s...
Disingenuious selective reading? You don't read my post, you post very selective readings, then when I read your selective readings and show they were...
The presupposition of theory is that cause will continue into the future. That is the induction. That is what can never be truly known, because we can...
Your computer is a bunch of circuits and logic gates that only function because we know how they will respond once electricity is applied properly. If...
No, I'm not imposing anything. They made a claim. I pointed out a contradiction I saw with that claim. They are free to counter that point if they wis...
Yes, the 8 ball in a state of velocity is different from the 8 ball in a state of zero velocity. There is added heat to the ball through friction and ...
This is not a possibility, backed by the fact that you posted an argument on an online forum. Barring the fact that you were the cause of writing that...
The classic Hume approach. I believe Hume is correct in our belief that consistent cause that will repeat in the future is something unknowable. Why s...
Fine, this one time I'll go over your straw man arguments. Your first link starts with, "the premise everything has to have a cause to exist — Varese ...
Sure, the usual example in philosophy is a cue ball hitting an 8 ball. The 8 ball exists in a new velocity state because the cue ball struck it with a...
Not a worry. We're here to discuss philosophy, and I'm interested to see other people's take. I agree 100%. I start by keeping things simple until peo...
Hi Tim. Yes, this OP presupposed some information that absolutely should be defined. Causality is the idea that a snapshot of existence is in the stat...
It would be nice to see that refutation by logic and physics. And to hear what you think the premise actually is. But if you cannot provide it, I have...
What that argument is doing is applying causality to "nothing". If I say, "Nothing caused this to exist," isn't it the same as saying, "This thing tha...
Maybe you missed my most recent reply. Yes, I noted you linked the kalem argument and an argument about plank space. Neither of those arguments addres...
There is no reason prior to observation, to believe that there is some prior causality to anything. It is the belief that there must be an X that driv...
It wasn't the intention. You gave me a counter to the Kalem argument as a counter to my argument, when my argument, wait for it...is a counter to the ...
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