Thank you, I'm grateful for someone addressing the OP. That's fair. We can say at this point that even if it is sexism, that isn't necessarily a bad t...
No, a straw man is when you build up an idea that the presenter never argued for or backed, then attack it. No, its not irrational at all. That's how ...
Straw man, as I have no idea what you're talking about. You're attacking something that doesn't relate to the OP. Cite the argument of the OP and addr...
Not at all. I've posted what gender is, what sexism is, and demonstrated why when gender is elevated over sex, it meets the definition of sexism. Ther...
This will always happen when discussing meaningful yet highly emotional subjects. We can't be turn away from topics just because some people have emot...
I actually meant that more than semantics. Biological sexism would be treating a man with a voice within the range of an average female like they aren...
No. I'm asserting that if gender is elevated over sex, its sexism. That's not proving a negative, that's disproving an affirmative. I'll let the first...
And you have equally zero claim that massive numbers of people don't agree with the specific claim of this thread. In fact, its irrelevant. You have a...
No, we are not using slang and colloquial language. Part of what philosophy should be doing is finding clear words and concepts that allow clear thoug...
I don't believe you have. If you aren't going to add any more, its been a nice conversation. First, that didn't prove that no transgender people cited...
Its fine to disagree, but why? In every other case it applies, what makes trans gender special? Again, why? You may be right. But without a good reaso...
Thank you for the kind words Bob. :) I understand your concern, and I had that very same concern as well. It is not out of line for sexism to apply to...
Sure. Lets view identity apart from gender for a moment. I don't believe in a soul, so all of our thoughts come from the brain. Identity is one type o...
That's a very biased take without evidence. Would you like to explain where in the OP I'm trying to attack trans or gays? If its low quality, please p...
More than fair. Trans people make up anywhere from 1-5% of the population, and that rise is mostly among the young people of this generation. Most adu...
I like this example because it lets us break down the terminology. If the woman is getting breast augmentation because society tells her its the way w...
I apologize then. Let me read over what you've written and see if I understand what you're saying. Please correct me where I am wrong. First, you spea...
So look at that T Clark. We have a poster with a little over 100 posts. They come in, they're polite. They post great arguments and points. They cite ...
If you don't mind, I'm going to answer some of your points you've been making to other posters. I normally don't, but you seem genuinely pleasant to c...
Everyone has a personal identity, but that doesn't mean its more than a subjective identity. For example, I can have a personal identity that I am a d...
There are plenty of straight men who transition as well. I believe there are more straight men who've transitioned today than gay men. The majority of...
Hey Bob! Good to see an actual argument. I thought about this very thing when I was first mulling this over, but it turns out 'genderism' has a differ...
You know TClark, I know you're not a kid, and I know you can be sensible and polite. I don't get why you come in here being rude right off the bat wit...
No, my argument simply notes that gender is a subjective opinion of how a sex should act in society, and that this is essentially no more than prejudi...
These definitions are complimentary, not contradictory. Mine is the colloquial version of the medical speak below. "lived role" - Socially constructed...
I've been sitting back and letting others discuss as I feel I've already made my point in this thread. Your post was particularly excellent, well said...
Correct. The definition of gender is how one or more people believe a sex should behave socially. There is nothing innate in being a sex that indicate...
Thank you for agreeing with me then. Glad you accept the premise of the OP. Correct my little passive aggressive bird. Your bias against me has nothin...
No one is arguing you can't have a sexist identity. You haven't argued that a gender identity isn't sexist. You should quote the rest of the conclusio...
So did war, ignorance, religion, and many other things that we have learned we can do without and still be successful. Just because something happened...
You can be a man and be a misandrist. And there are women who hate men, but may not have the power to do much about it. Hating or loving one sex is ir...
Misandry too. Lets not be sexist ourselves and think this is only one sided. Also to be fair, sexism is not motivated only by negative aspects. Phiand...
Right, its just sexist language when referring to gender. "Trans men are men" if you are referring to men in a gendered way, is incredibly sexist. It ...
Please do! Its important to explore different view points. If you mean 'trans gender' that is because gender is subjective. If a person does not consi...
To be clear, this is nothing wrong with taking and exploring something proposed or claimed. My point was that if it was never peer reviewed or tested ...
The important thing is if his body of work went through the proper scientific channels. Is it objective? Consistently repeatable? Its often that peopl...
Yep, I told you I was. That was right as you said, "You've misunderstood what I said." I could tell at that point you weren't here to discuss, you wer...
I wouldn't debate too hard with Questioner. I get the feeling English is a second language, and they're unwilling to clarify their posts if you ask. Y...
Its why I keep seeing it as a secular religion. I grew up Christian and broke away on my own as I started questioning. I know the patterns of thought,...
Again, you're making a circular assumption. Because the phrase is not ambiguous, only an idiot or dishonest person would interpret the phrase not in t...
If you're not going to clarify a legitimate request for clarification, I'm not going to try to guess what you're saying. I've done that before in conv...
Unless you prove that everyone who uses the phrase in a way different than you feel its to be read is an idiot or dishonest, this in no way proves the...
Oh, its EITHER you're an idiot or dishonest. My mistake. So basically people can't interpret the phrase wrong, because when they use it wrong, it due ...
I don't doubt it. As I was reading your thread a few times I wasn't sure I understood your full intention. Not at all. I even went out of my way to in...
Fantastic. We agree on a basic point that not everyone who uses the phrase means to indicate that the second 'man' in the sentence is only referring t...
Sure, but that that's the claim I'm making. Thinking you're a man when in reality you're a woman is a delusional. Questioner, your post is a bit disor...
This is not an argument. You need to go talk to more people. Lets make this logical to remove the obvious emotional block you have. You are stating, "...
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