Pierre Le Morvan wrote an article Arguments against Direct Realism and how to counter them A major problem with Direct Realism is the belief that beca...
You say the Direct Realist is not seeing an image of the tree, which is what the Indirect Realist would say, but is directly seeing the tree. An Indir...
I would use the term Physicalism rather than Materialism. Physicalism is closely related to Materialism, but Physicalism grew out of Materialism with ...
Intellectually, my belief is that of Neutral Monism, where reality consists of elementary particles and elementary forces in space-time. Consciousness...
If I started as a Materialist, this would lead me into becoming a Physicalist, and eventually a Panprotopsychist. I would have thought that to be a Ma...
Numbers are computed in language If asked the question "what is one plus one", as the answer is not contained in either number, I need to carry out a ...
If I see two rocks on the left, I know that two objects has the name "two". If I see twelve rocks on the right, I know that twelve objects has the nam...
As a non-mathematician, I am curious about the following: Question one: if I put one pebble on a table and alongside it put another pebble, has a comp...
If the mind is the perceiver and the idea is the perceived, and the perceiver and perceived are separate entities, how can the mind ever have knowledg...
Are you referring to Innatism, Enactivism, Kant's a priori intuition, etc, in that life has evolved in synergy with the world for at least 3.5 billion...
According to Wittgenstein, in addition to the fact that no one can ever never know the private perception of another, but can only infer it from their...
Wittgenstein's Beetle in the Box argument can be used against Direct Realism Wittgenstein uses the beetle in a box to argue that a language understand...
Pierre Le Morvan in his article Arguments against Direct Realism and how to counter them is making the valid point that a Direct Realist can accept ca...
The perceiver and what is directly perceived by the perceiver must be one and the same There is X, the mind, the brain, the little man and there is Y,...
You wrote: "For the direct realist, the man directly perceives a tree............For the indirect realist, though, something within the man (the mind,...
There is an article Arguments against Direct Realism and how to counter them by Pierre Le Morvan, where he writes, when discussing the causal argument...
That's how I see it. The perceiver is at one end of a causal chain of intermediaries that links the perceiver to what the perceiver is perceiving. At ...
The Indirect Realist believes they are perceiving a world that exists in their mind. The Direct Realist believes they are perceiving a world than exis...
Both the Indirect and Direct Realist would agree that there is a world outside the mind. The Direct Realist would argue that we directly perceive the ...
We can label Wittgenstein, even if he wouldn't have done so himself I agree that Wittgenstein would resist being labelled, as that does not seem to be...
I agree that, in a sense, "sense data" is a linguistic fiction, in that, for me, the term is metaphorical rather than literal. As @NOS4A2 wrote: "For ...
It cannot be such a silly debate without philosophic substance if some modern philosophers believe that the great genius philosophers of the past were...
Just elaborating: The Idealist, Indirect Realist and Direct Realist agree that they perceive the tree to have three branches. For the Idealist, as rea...
Two fundamental problems with Direct Realism In my opinion, there are two fundamental problems with Direct Realism: 1) When we perceive the world, how...
I agree that I don't need to be a philosopher in order to prune a tree. But this is what sets a human using their reason and intellect apart from an a...
The Indirect Realist is not saying that there is no resemblance between what they perceive in their sense data and the cause of that perception, they ...
I would argue the opposite, that Direct Realism is "without foundation in reason" according to Hume. Hume wrote: i) "The mind has never any thing pres...
I start by assuming that there is nothing external to my mind. I have read and appreciated the greatness of Don Quijote, but cannot write a sequel of ...
@"Richard B" It will take a while to work through your subtle ideas, though I will do what I can. A proper answer would involve a better understanding...
I never said he did. I said that using the concept of identity, such as that between the experience of pain and pain, the model and what the model is ...
Searle wrote: "The experience of pain does not have pain as an object because the experience of pain is identical with the pain. Similarly, if the exp...
IEP article on Objects of Perception The objects of perception are the entities we attend to when we perceive the world. Perception lies at the root o...
I am sure it is true hallucinations is a rare event, but perhaps a lot of philosophy is based on trying to solve inconsistencies in a theory, such as ...
Along the lines of what is written in Searle's article: “You said that you directly perceive the tree, but suppose it is a hallucination. And suppose ...
A puzzle I have my own solution to, but remains to be accepted by the Direct Realist. I wrote "Direct Realism's solution to this seeming paradox is by...
Searle writes about the mistakes of philosophers of great genius "I realize that the great geniuses of our tradition were vastly better philosophers t...
Searle, hallucination and the veridical Searle discusses the ambiguity of the word "see". "What shall we say about the bad argument in both of its ver...
As an Indirect Realist, I believe that I directly see a model or a representation of a tree in my mind. I don't directly see a tree in the world, but ...
Exactly. A case of psychological projection, rather than onto other people onto the world around us. As the Wikipedia article on Psychological Project...
There is a useful paragraph in the SEP article Nonexistant Objects. "One of the reasons why there are doubts about the concept of a nonexistent object...
I wrote that Searle doesn't explain how one knows whether one's visual experience is an hallucination or a veridical visual experience. Searle wrote: ...
By definition, a property is any member of a class of entities that are capable of being attributed to objects, so there must be at least two things b...
John Searle: The Philosophy of Perception and the Bad Argument Searle's refutation of The Argument from Illusion is weak One reason philosophers in th...
I can discover in the world several shapes that are square at the top and round at the base. I can invent the physical property "squund", which is a s...
There are three scenarios, each arguing against Direct Realism. Scenario one I just perceive the colour green. As anything could have caused it, this ...
I agree that in one sense the Direct Realist is looking at a tree in the world , not at the sense data in the mind. They are "looking through" the sen...
The argument is that as the Indirect Realist directly perceives sense data, this leaves no distinction between perceiver and perceived, meaning that t...
A wavelength does not have an inherent colour, though any set of wavelengths can be given the name of a colour. The wavelength between 570 and 500 nm ...
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