Olivier5

Okay, but I'm saying NATO biiiiig caca.

Russia caca too???

NATO caca.

What else do YOU have, when talking of future events? You got some crypto-marxist crystal ball?

No, no. As usual, I am just saying what I am saying. Not what you say I am saying. There's always a huge difference there.

I was joking.

Nope. What I am saying is that we cannot assume that the killings will stop or that the population will be well treated in areas under Russian control...

You're a nazi.

Congratulation to @"Streetlight" for his demonstration of Godwin's law.

We are talking of what might happen in the future, if Russia grabs a large swath of new Ukrainian territories. The question is: How will the civilian ...

No one is willing to bet on that, though.

There are all the murders already committed against civilians. That is evidence.

Since you cannot counter them, my arguments do not exist. Ok.

With arguments rather, which you failed to address

I cannot demonstrate the future. But certainly, the Ukrainians are angry by the massive war crimes committed against them and they fear more is to com...

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Some of these other points are stuff that I have drawn attention to, ie point 5 on the risk of Ukraine becoming as fascist as Russia in the long term....

The extreme right is not a fancy of mine. It does exist and it pollutes the minds of many, including yours.

I contend point 3. Ukrainians have shown a certain resolve and interest is staying independent. I guess they don't want to go the way of the Uighurs.

Ah, yeah, I should have known that you can't possibly put forth any positive argument. You're too much of a coward for that.

You made an argument??? :party: :clap: :party:

I agree. The sooner the Russians go back to Russia, the better, including for them Russians. I think that's obvious.

Have you taken into consideration the behavior of Russian troops in occupied Ukraine?

Interesting (anonymous) article from one of the last independent Russian news outlets, on the movie "Occupant" edited by a Ukrainian journalist from v...

I am making the argument that the Russians have no particular reason to stop killing Ukrainians, even after they sign a potential peace deal, and that...

This is the big mistake that the "peace lovers" here are making, in my view: they assume it's all for nothing, that there is no difference between liv...

Maybe it was a good idea but it is not a current one, outside of the extreme right's paranoid fear of the Jews, George Soros, and the alien lizards co...

The use of 'world government' to speak of the UN is an extreme right trope.

"World government" is an extreme right trope. The UN is very very very far from any such pretension.

Je ne peux plus dire je t'aime Ne me demande pas pourquoi Je ne ressens ni joie ni peine Quand tes yeux se posent sur moi Si la solitude te pèse Quand...

You have a problem with diplomacy? You wouldn't.

Q Oh I have considered them and refuted them, for the most part. I or someone else here. I'm just not ready to dignify what I see as little more than ...

So far, the idea has not really been challenged much so I haven't provided additional arguments. But I can try to add a few arguments, if the topic is...

Penetrating article. Tx.

Yes, and that's comforting.

Ain't that the truth? Their lies and excuses are not worthy of consideration, unless you want to participate in their propaganda and help them kill mo...

If you go back to the initial argument, I never pretended that democracies are moral. As you pointed out yourself, morality only applies to individual...

Nice phrase. In other words, crank up the pressure on Moscow while avoiding WW3. I still think Biden is doing fine. His military establishment is as w...

That too I guess. Money talks and the Brits have always liked its voice.

Once Upon a Time in Londongrad https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2022/may/31/once-upon-a-time-in-londongrad-review-putin-deaths-russian (on how...

I don't know what got into him. Today he seems to agree with our president. A few days ago he would welcome the total destruction of anything French. ...

FYI, I'm not a kangaroo. Don't get too excited.

I do. Sorry to disappoint once again.

Who said there was anything wrong with it?

Unclear, please rephrase.

From Switzerland, a portait of Macron as a student of Kissinger: Source: https://www.blick.ch/fr/news/monde/commentaire-allo-kissinger-emmanuel-macron...

Not saying it WILL happen. I was talking about the kind of risks that may be on our leaders' mind. An escalation COULD happen, which is probably why B...

The way things work here, people do not persuade each other, ever. They don't even try much, because it takes two well disposed debaters, and that is ...

Nobody likes me, that's for sure.

Like the first time, he got tired of us. Don't Look Up.