Easier said than done. First, not all cases are from at-risk-groups, so even if you succeeded in isolating at-risk-groups, you'd still have a huge amo...
This number may seem low to you, but the number of infected is some multiple of the current number of diagnosed cases. Some proportion of infected wil...
No one is disputing that. The question is how those numbers grow over time under different responses. Evidence we have at the moment is letting it gro...
I just explained it is no proof. Unless you have some extreme position where you don't want the police, justice system ensuring property rights are de...
But that's telling people how to live. You're telling them not to tread on you. To make sure it's not a suggestion but an ideal enforced as best you c...
There's no proof of this. For instance, I would argue that healthy educated people can more easily minimize one group of individuals imposing their id...
But you still need a government to tell people to live within the laws that you have in your system, and maintain the institutions to accomplish that....
Yes, but the difference with SARS is that, because it was so dangerous, containment was serious and effective. We not only allowed Coronavirus to spre...
Yes, I've made that assumption clear. One of the unknown risks of the disease is re-infection rates of the same strain, which can happen with some dis...
But don't you want to impose your morality of fiscal conservatism and social liberalism on everyone else? I agree, I wan to impose my morality of rule...
Flu vaccine doesn't really change the conclusion, as it does not provide 100% immunity, flu is constantly evolving to defeat the vaccine policy. And w...
That's exactly what I explain: Why it's considered the same disease is because it's phenomenologically similar, and descends fro the previous strains,...
Communicable diseases that aren't controlled but don't reach 100% is because the disease has a hard time spreading. Maybe very dangerous, but is not c...
Yes, I was off by a factor of 0.3 in my lower bound estimate in making the point that order of magnitude differences in deaths have much different imp...
I've already explained it cannot get to a madmax outcome since 85-90% of cases recover easily. So letting it just go out of control and killing whomev...
Fortunately, there's not much evidence it's really bad for babies, and I believe also pregnant women haven't had it particularly worse. Luckily, child...
Ok, well let's talk in a week or two. As triage is happening in Italy right now ... doesn't seem that philosophic to me. But if you only care about th...
The point I am making in these last comments is that there is a big difference politically between 5000, 50 000, 500 000, and 5 000 000, people dying ...
Thanks for the lesson, I'm sure it will be useful for someone not yet informed. This is not what's being discussed. Had the US taken the measures (it'...
I forgot to elaborate. No paid sick leave means people that really are too sick to work won't get paid. But more importantly, lot's of precarious jobs...
I don't live in the US. I am not in a high risk group, but thanks for your concern. Please share your information in the event it does end up being us...
You are using your European experience as a basis. There are some key differences. The US does not have paid sick leave, nor quick and easy "keep me a...
Marshal law isn't a mad max scenario. Most people would just be sitting at home. But if the administration loses it's grip even more of the situation ...
I'm not sure NOS4A2 is talking about a revolt. For me, however, it's not that people revolt, Marshal law would be needed in the event of "crazy people...
Although I agree US libertarians will be fully engaged in the collectivist organization, funding and even proud of their own little personal sacrifice...
Yes, so if this is starting already at "really bad" our last experience with sort of major pandemic is we can expect it to get even worse. It is a tru...
Both these statements assume you can make a comparison between "action" and "no action" by estimating the likely outcome of each course of action. How...
Obviously you can argue with the counter factual of "What if nothing would be done, then how many would die" by having some basis to estimate the deat...
Even if that were so, isn't that just good marketing? Lot's of ideas make money by taking advantage of psychological weaknesses in people. Can Windows...
No, the stats are only a good point if there was some reason to believe deaths and injury from Corrona would of similar magnitude as previous pandemic...
Why did't you deal with those people in the stock market by placing put options or betting on the winners in this sort of situation, like netflix? Sho...
Thanks for joining and promptly existing the discussion. Your contribution has been noted and catalogued. I will ask you later if you still think your...
Notice how when I say to all these comments "you'll understand in a week or two" none of my astute interlocutors ever comes back with reasons the situ...
We're also talking about deaths, but also those in the future which, with foresight, is possible for people to do something about now. If you want to ...
This would be the case if there wasn't a quick corporate gift to make a quick buck producing some easy-smeazy test kits. That socialist institution th...
Let me introduce you to a little concept called "exponential growth", or if you insist on technical mathematical speak, the acceleration phase of a lo...
Yes, the very large percentage of critical cases (cases that are unlikely to recover without medical intervention), is why abandoning containment as a...
Although as mentions, cultural differences have an effect, Germany is not yet overloaded. They also have higher health care capacity due to more susta...
Literally 16 hours ago: Now: It was obviously never a "strategy" of any sort, just a propaganda slight of hand on gullible people to make them look mo...
I'm not so confident. National security decisions do get made by shadowy figures around round tables. It's pretty well documented that China covered t...
Yes, dramatic action is in the end inevitable. It is very possible China made sure it "was let loose globally" either by reflexive cover-up of inept m...
The learning process from SARS, MERS, Ebola is that containment avoids this sort of situation. What we learned from Swineflu is that if something real...
So what does the science say? That by accompanying a benefit with a negative that is less than the benefit, scientifically, this changes behavior to t...
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