Luke

To be clear, you disagree that "3D Earth doesn't move from t1 to t2"? That is, you believe that 3D Earth does move from t1 to t2? If you recall, I was...

I never claimed that you said it; I said I thought that you agreed to it. I'm happy with it too. I don't know what other sort of motion there could be...

I thought you agreed that "The 3D Earth doesn't move from t1 to t2"? Now you're saying that it does? Or are you saying that it doesn't really move in ...

Okay, let's say I agree to the definition of kinematic motion, and I agree that motion can be calculated in your physical model. Earlier you appeared ...

If all objects are 4D, then they don't change over time. I'm not here to convert things to your physics model. I'm here to discuss metaphysics.

Yes, the maths can still be done in the model; you can continue to subtract the value at t1 from that at t2. But dx/dt is inconsistent with the static...

If you really want to take Eternalism seriously "with both feet and think about things like motion and change in eternalistic terms", then you should ...

What do they change from/to?

Change in temporal position is the existence of a pair of values? What changes?

It's not critics who complain about it; that's just what B-theory states. According to the SEP article on Time regarding the B-theory: "On this view, ...

This is not me defining anything either. It's known as the B-theory in philosophy of time.

Aren't you simply defining temporal passage into existence? You're saying it's impossible that an object could not change its temporal position. That ...

You seem keen to saddle me with Presentist assumptions. I have not mentioned an objective present moment or a second time dimension. I am using the sa...

Thank you all for helping me to clarify my argument that the block universe precludes motion: The block universe (or B-theory Eternalism) has no tempo...

You still seem to be presuming that an object can change its temporal position (i.e. move through time). Eternalism rejects this. Why does a 3D univer...

I'm not disagreeing with this definition of motion or suggesting any "non-kinematic definition" of motion. However, what I believe Eternalism entails ...

Okay, but the Presentism/Eternalism debate is a metaphysical, ontological concern, in which it is argued that the nature of time and existence is best...

What do you mean when you say "as we move along the time axis"? Do you mean simply tracing out a path on a map, or is it that we actually pass through...

I presented the MST mainly for comparison with the block universe. Perhaps that was an error on my part. It was intended to demonstrate that if you wa...

MST is a hybrid of Presentism and Eternalism. Presentism does indeed entail a "privileged history". However, I'm not here to defend Presentism, but to...

Do you have anything of substance to add - any argument for motion in a block universe - or just hand waving and eye rolling?

To recap: - Motion is defined (by you) as change in position over time - 4D objects don't change position over time - because this would require a hig...

What is this adjustment? Exactly. This supports my claim that B-theory Eternalism precludes motion. All objects are 4D in Eternalism, whereas motion o...

You "need another concept of movement" for what?

Put simply, 3D objects move; 4D objects don't.

It seems like you want me to say that one moves and one doesn't, or that one contains motion and one doesn't, except, in eternalism, neither moves and...

In eternalism, I see no need to differentiate between them. To what end?

So 3D parts of the 4D object change position over time, despite the fact that the 4D object as a whole does not change position over time. Isn't this ...

Because then you'd be talking about Presentism and/or the A-theory instead of B-theory Eternalism. I'm not really concerned with it. I'm interested in...

What "they"? Is it a 3D object or a 4D object? You don't get to assume it's a 3D object as an Eternalist, so how can it move through time? What moves?

What "something" are you are talking about here? Is it a 3D object which starts at t1 and moves to t2? Or is it a 4D object which exists at t1, t2, an...

To reiterate my argument against this general assumption by the Eternalists: Assume a four-dimensional object exists at every point between t1 and t2....

You said that Eternalism doesn't preclude motion "because all you have to do is add more premises, like your spotlight theory does". The Moving Spotli...

Do you agree that the Moving Spotlight theory is a hybrid of Eternalism and Presentism/A-theory? If so, then it's not Eternalism.

Yes, I wasn't asking for a repeat of the criticism. Do you acknowledge that Eternalism logically precludes motion, or do you have any further defence ...

Unless you are talking about the Moving Spotlight theory (which I consider to be a hybrid of Eternalism and Presentism/A-theory, rather than true Eter...

Again: they're not my definitions. You seem to imply that nobody believes in the B-theory of time, that time does not flow. Do you have any support fo...

I was talking more about the fact that two days ago you said time flows (but not in any particular direction), whereas yesterday you said "the word fl...

You said in your last post that time flows but has no direction. You seem undecided? Hey, I didn't invent these concepts. You seem eager to be an Eter...

The traversing of that path. Or, at least, that's what I'm asserting/challenging in the OP: doesn't motion require temporal passage? Is this Eternalis...

Time flows but not "in any particular direction"? That's not what the B-theory is. This would imply that time flows when "viewed from the inside", but...

You're talking about Presentism and Eternalism rather than A-theory and B-theory.

Just to try and address this objection, what difference do you perceive there to be between the A-theory and the B-theory? You seem to be saying that ...

It seems as though we are at an impasse. I can only reiterate that Eternalism assumes the B-theory unless you are talking about the Moving Spotlight t...

Without getting too bogged down in details, I should spell out my belief that conscious experience, i.e. the mind, is produced by the brain/body. Furt...

To expand on this, if you exist at every moment of your worldline as a "space-time worm", i.e. you exist at every moment in time from your birth to yo...

I responded to this earlier. Entropy explains why there is a directionality to time. However, such an account presupposes that temporal passage is rea...

So you accept that all moments in time have the same existence and you accept that our perception of this is limited or 'illusionary'. But how do you ...

Simply to point out your appalling logic, You originally stated: I can't dismiss eternalism because it requires accepting religion if I also dismiss r...

I think I once read somewhere that the mathematics is the same with or without the passage of time, so @"ChatteringMonkey" could be right that tempora...