Luke

As I said, the possibilities which are present, at the current time (at t0), are possibilities regarding the future situation (at t1). You acknowledge...

Those different possibilities are regarding a future situation, not the current situation. We do not know whether there will be a sea battle tomorrow,...

What you mean by "possible" is that the future holds more than one possibility; that there are several possible worlds and one of those becomes the ac...

"Possible" is the opposite of "impossible". It is absurd to deny it. Whatever ambiguous meaning of "necessary" you think results from this makes no di...

Right. That's the problem I'm pointing out to you, which results from your claim that what is actual is not also what is possible. I never claimed tha...

I would have thought the opposite to "may or may not be" was "must or must not be". If what is actual is not (also) what is possible, then what is act...

What I tend to say when I’m uncertain is “I don’t know” or “I don’t know for sure”, rather than “I do know but I’m uncertain”.

Does anyone actually know anything, according to you?

You'd be a terrible weatherman.

Hidden states are the world, right? (However, you also say that the model is the world?) I have been trying to. That's not at all what I've been attem...

Because we could never be surprised to find that Aragorn was not king of Gondor, or that "Aragorn was king of Gondor" is false. Surely we know our col...

You claim I've misunderstood or misrepresented, yet you re-state what I said, exactly as I understood it and represented it. You are talking about kno...

There should be no surprises if the world is the model because you claim that the model is a collective fiction. I already answered the question of wh...

That's exactly what you said. I quoted you as saying that the person does not know p. Here it is again: You clearly refer to negative knowledge of p (...

Because that's not how the story (or model) goes. As you said, it's a fact we all know. Because that's not how the story (or model) goes. What do you ...

I'm taking this "collective fiction" to be equivalent with our language, which I also take to be roughly equivalent to the view of redundancy/deflatio...

That was one of my two options: At one time the person claimed to know p, but it turns out later that they did not know p. That is ~Kp. Did they "deci...

My guess is you would say that what makes one theory better than another is that it produces less surprises? If the semantic content of expressions re...

You are repeating the same error that I pointed out to you before. Does it turn out that the person does not know that the proposition, p, is true (i....

I agree. My effort to try and argue for a deficiency in deflationism's account of truth may have made it seem as though I was arguing wholly in favour...

Srap is talking about knowing something that is not the case. You are talking about not knowing something that is the case. You are attacking a straw ...

Is this typically what the word "truth" (or "is true") does? I thought we were discussing what "is true" does, not what "X" (or "the kettle" or "the k...

Or we could speak of truth conditions instead. If people agree that the truth conditions of “the kettle is boiling” are met, then the statement is tru...

Yes, but this discussion is about truth, not meaning. Does the screw example make clear that the truth is up to us?

And I think that you have it wrong. Does the screw example make clear that the truth is up to us?

I think the screw example does not address truth. I've also previously criticised deflation for truth relativity. I didn't think deflationists would e...

The screw example does make clear that what counts as a kettle is up to us. Does it make clear that the truth is up to us?

Nice post. However, a "match" sounds a lot like a correspondence to my ears. An argument I have been considering lately is the following. If the state...

Given that most of my posts in this discussion have been spent trying to get deflationists to admit to the distinction between the expression and the ...

Therefore, there are no boiling kettles outside of language, either? There are only statements about kettles but no actual kettles? The kettle itself;...

This is an objection to correspondence. I don't see how that answers my objection to redundancy - that redundancy collapses facts into language use. I...

I’ve already told you: You failed to respond. Again, you failed to respond to the argument that sentences are not kettles and that using sentences doe...

Yes. Deflationism rejects correspondence - specifically, the correspondence between a truth bearer and the facts - doesn't it? You've conflated the fa...

Yes, that's my concern and what I'm attempting to argue against.

You make a great point and you almost had me convinced there. However, my concerns about truth relativism linger. If deflationism is the neutral view ...

I agree. What I’m arguing against is the deflationary view that there is never any material component to facts; that facts are no more than language u...

My interest in this discussion has been whether truth remains recognisable once correspondence is jettisoned in favour of deflationism, and/or whether...

What you’ve presented as Davidson’s view above strikes me as our shared language being the model of reality. I thought that was why you intentionally ...

Despite the fact that you say: ?

Which of these is the “no models” view?

Doesn’t this imply that we have different models, instead of sharing the same model which just is the neighbourhood? Better still, doesn’t this imply ...

I fail to see how any disagreement is possible regarding the material of the fence if we all share the same model, which just is the neighbourhood. An...

If the shared model we each access just is the neighbourhood, then how does this account for the disagreement over the fence being brick or wood? Is t...

Read which part again? Show me where I’ve misread.

Oh? Let me quote it again for you: This says that Item 1 (a sentence) is the kettle boiling. Sentences are not kettles.

You start out by saying that the sentence is about the boiling kettle, but then end up saying that the sentence is the boiling kettle. Pointing to a k...

Is an “empirical fact” a linguistic state of affairs? In line with your earlier distinction here, I believe that what @"Srap Tasmaner" meant by a “(no...

Is this according to deflationism? Maybe this, but also that deflationism does away with truthmakers. As I understand it, deflationism supposes that t...

Therefore, evidence and being "right" are irrelevant to truth. So how can truth be anything but relative?