It isn't, because at no point is there a requirement that a falsehood or myth be propagated. To say it plainly: the leader shows through duty to a cau...
Well, are you prepared to be the president of the United States? Do you think I am? Would you trust, for instance, a bigot to do a good job? Or a care...
I still don't see how that is a lie. They aren't brainwashed; they are convinced that there is a good cause and that they should take it up. I would s...
Not necessarily. If peoples' existing sense of duty is cynically exploited in the way Banno seems to think it is, then yes. If one is genuinely trying...
When I claim that duty is the single strongest motivator, I do not mean that it cancels out every other motivator, or even that it generally prevails ...
I literally define how I use the term, and you redefine it and complain that I'm trying to advocate for cajoling people into acting against their own ...
I think you guys misunderstand - and this is not a call to militarism or nationalism. I'm saying that the leaders who can make a difference in the fig...
You aren't the only one here being stupid, but you are the worst offender. You appear to argue here and elsewhere that abortion should be a right for ...
You are being slippery. You claim that with just this foundation one can see through "the propaganda" and that this foundation is a prerequisite, whic...
How does that provide any sort of dialectic or guiding principles towards forming beliefs? All you need is logic, grammar, and rhetoric? Isn't everyon...
Your position seems to be virtually deterministic, and I don't think you are giving chosen belief enough credit. I'm going to try to reframe the discu...
Welcome to the forum. As far as beliefs go - I think one will naturally form beliefs and morals if they stay true to some core principles while practi...
I just act. I don't act like a I have free will, or anything like it. You seem to think that acting and setting goals indicates free will. I don't. I ...
I actually don't, really. I make decisions but I don't think that I truly have free choice. That I act like I'm making decisions and setting goals fre...
I hate it when people say this. Perhaps a paranoid person has an impression they are being watched. Does this impression grant any weight to her assum...
You might not know the full consequences of your actions, but one might know that following a certain law when it applies will generally maximize the ...
Not what I'm saying. I'm saying that in terms of making choices about how to act in moral situations, one can only choose the decision with the best o...
Would you like me to try and explain it? What specifically didn't make sense? And yes, premise (2) is basically saying that if we form laws based on c...
And I never said all rules and laws are rational, or that people think all rules or laws are rational. The ones they might claim are, are the ones I'm...
I still disagree. I specifically say: This is the act-utilitarian, essentially. If they want to be good act-utilitarians they must grant what I write ...
Furthermore, the quality of human pain doesn't affect, say, whether or not it is wrong to slap someone because one lacks empathy, except insofar as th...
Utility is inextricably related to consequences, so I would say this: honor might evoke a certain universal meaning when used, but it cannot be quanti...
Also: if the two of you would just read the formal argument you would realize I stipulate in (1) that only the subset of those laws that are formed by...
Ethics as a school of philosophical thought exists. That's my proof. I suppose I could preface my OP with the caveat that this intense thinking about ...
I wouldn't put it up here if I didn't want it to be picked at. edit: I see you genuinely wanted to know. The premise everyone is up in arms about is s...
I think most coherent people provide reasoning for their beliefs and the laws and rules they want to follow and impose on others - even if that reason...
When I say rational, I mean that they make sense according to some sort of ethical reasoning, not that they are purely derived from reason, and are th...
That rule consequentialism is appealing or desirable because of these things is undeniable. I think that when you say that rule consequentialism says ...
What about laws that would dictate which choice is to be made upon being presented with a dilemma? If we are presented with a law, or an intersection ...
An outcome is, broadly, what happens as a function of our directed intention, whereas consequences in this context are what actually happens to people...
Clearly there are instances in which the consequentialist can effect a better outcome over another - even if non-trivial activities can have unforesee...
Not to mention, it seems to me that among the group of people who are aware of this thread and your OP, it appears most of the people who have respond...
I think that one can successfully expand the group in such a way as to redefine what can be considered moral, even given that what you say about group...
Yes, that appears to be correct. But how does that relate to truthfulness? That algorithm is just useful for determining whether red apples are sweet....
Yes, truths that are modulated according to conditions are useful, if that is what you are getting at. For instance, I might say about a person's deci...
So, is capitalism a problem? Or do we all need to do nearly insignificant things in massive numbers to solve these problems? The first quote is not su...
Wasn't playing devil's advocate, but I'll just let it ride. Good interacting with you. I don't think I have a whole lot to offer on this one. See you ...
Seriously, though, compatibilism is the obvious answer, and that seems to be what you are looking for. You could always say that it was plausible that...
It can exist in a universe in which magical, intangible devices exist in people's brains that allow them to defy the laws of physics and make choices ...
In a perfect world, I think rational thought and desired outcome would be congruous. Of course, they are not, largely, but when it comes to something ...
Should we not try to avoid contradictions in law? Aren't parity and justice and general equality before the law to be desired over the short-term effi...
Another thing: if we are talking about a construct like law, for example, we very much are talking about something with a form of permeating logic, an...
I'm already sick of typing and hearing "permeating logic" in my head, and I don't even think it is all that original of an idea. I just kind of made i...
By "permeating logic", I mean a system or set of principles underlying the arrangement of factors that contribute to belief and, thus, beliefs themsel...
Way to make neuroscience make sense to someone scientifically illiterate like me. I half expected to be grouped in with NOS because of my lack of unde...
Do you think externally generated signals must be stopped at some point in order for free-will to exist? What if there is some function by which belie...
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