ToothyMaw

What would cultural equality entail?

It isn't a tautology: moral acts are obligatory because god commands them. However, that doesn't mean that god commands moral acts because they are mo...

Most people seem to believe that moral acts are obligatory merely because god commands them. If god exists and does command us to do things, then thos...

Yes, but also educationally and politically.

There is quite a bit of overlap, but atheists - by definition - deny the objectivity of revelation. This is because they do not believe in god who, if...

CRS is pretty irrelevant to this thread. I would define "white privilege" as the myriad benefits that white people accrue merely for being white. "Rac...

I would say, with regards to culture, however, things like the preponderance of poor and working class black single mothers is more the result of the ...

Yes, I agree, but I don't think that micro-aggressions and other more implicit forms of prejudice can really be corrected for without severe language ...

Of course a just society is possible! We should not, however, say that whites need to save themselves from something they cannot change about themselv...

I don't mean that kind of abolition, but rather abolition from institutional and systemic racism.

This becomes less important the more you educate yourself I think; while, like I said, maybe we shouldn't allow public school teachers free reign to t...

Actually, one proponent of CRT, Gloria Ladson-Billings, outlines a number of components related to race that add up together to create the inequality ...

I think that public school teachers should not be free to teach whatever they want (I'm thinking mostly intelligent design), but yes, teachers should ...

Actually, I have been tremendously unsuccessful according to my own (now changing) standards. And your viewpoint is appreciated, so keep on chugging a...

Sorry: add Karl Marx to the list of authors; just read some of his comments.

Synthesis is the tortoise in the tortoise and the hare - but its rewritten by Dinesh D'Souza, William Lane Craig, and Dave Rubin.

Yes, I'm sure we could write some contemporary stories about, for instance, supremacists stealing the land of the dehumanized based on a belief in bei...

Guidance from a god that would have us suffer for no apparent reason? A god that would have us stone a woman to death for being an adulteress? That wo...

Just because some tremendously evil despots were atheist doesn't mean that atheism, or just a lack of belief in god, is a system of beliefs that motiv...

My point is that an ethical accepted on faith is no more valid than an ethic arrived at through reason. In fact, I would say the one arrived at throug...

Btw, you can click on the dots below your comment then the pencil and then you can edit what you have written.

That is assuming god exists; if god does not exist then revelation is merely another morality devised by men, wholly like any other ethical theory peo...

Some people actually need god to be happy and ethical; they need the threat of eternal damnation and have masochistic cravings for vicarious and liter...

I agree, absolutism with respect to anything other than maybe a few axioms will always result in an imperfect picture of reality - and perhaps some am...

I wasn't making a straightforward conclusion but rather noting that it is indeed more complex than just divide and conquer on the part of the rich; ob...

It is more so that she is saying that whiteness is a property possessed by whites much like property rights are possessed by anybody I think, which is...

I did some more thinking, considered your comments and, apart from some racially conscious policies, I don't believe that CRS and liberalism clash. In...

While class is important, as Timothy points out, poor whites do tend to fair better than poor people of color. This is largely due to programs that, w...

There is a thing called "whiteness studies" related to CRS which seeks to offer an objective definition of "whiteness" that can be decontextualized an...

Good point. This seems to be so that they can shift the goalposts every time that they gain ground or are shown up. Another good point. That's essenti...

But do you read Zizek?

Of course. We should work towards that without a doubt, and if supposedly discriminatory policies in favor of people of color is the way to do it, I s...

I would love to do more reading but I'm a peasant with no access to scholarly articles.

Great response. I see liberalism and CRT as clashing in a meaningful way when one essentially defines a whole class of people as material objects of t...

And sorry, Jack, Banno dragged me into this. I'll ask a mod to delete this shit.

I must have hit a nerve. If you are so well read then why don't you actually engage me in that thread? Put me in my place, maybe?

At least I don't namedrop Zizek to sound well-read. And do you really need to give me shit in unrelated threads?

And there you go, dodging out of any meaningful conversation. Have fun!

Now that you have been bequeathed the title of debater this should be easy to demolish me.

Okay, my bad. Now do you want to address something or are you going to offer another quibble (which is all you seem to do)?

I'll have to read into it.

Quite frankly it sounds like you skimmed the OP. I literally acknowledge that white supremacy is a thing by claiming that CRT is partially right imo. ...

I'm a little confused; how is that relevant? I'm asking you to recognize that people of color - even the supposedly unsuccessful ones - often times ar...

Thanks for participating in the thread. You seem pretty reasonable to me. :up:

They are, but a proponent of CRT would probably argue that it is the only way to correct existing institutional racism, so it is justified. That is ob...

I agree, it is a bit nebulous, and has the potential to be commandeered or misused, but I don't see liberalism solving the issues of racial inequality...

Has it ever occurred to you that many people of color are hard-working yet are not doing well financially because of external disadvantages? Maybe fro...

But taking strides toward eliminating racial inequality does not constitute throwing out the good; no one suffers unduly from activism, quotas, or rac...

You have to admit though - the whole whiteness being a valuable property thing is very janky. And I think that enlightenment liberalism can coexist wi...

Thanks for the reply. I get that it might seem like CRT is repackaged racism, but many of the race-conscious policies that are being pushed for are be...