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I'm a bit lost. This is what a zombie is according to Chalmers: http://consc.net/zombies-on-the-web/ ...that doesn't sound like a computer. So what's ...
November 01, 2021 at 00:07
My use of mind here is metaphorical (a reference to the idiom "of one mind"). Incidentally, I think we do indeed agree on a whole lot of stuff... our ...
October 31, 2021 at 22:48
Of course they are. This is why they tend to say we have these properties, but these things over here, they don't. They are ostensively pointing to th...
October 31, 2021 at 18:15
It was not a put-down. I'm not just generically using braggart language here; you're literally one step behind. The water example is a response to the...
October 31, 2021 at 15:07
I am pretty sure you're at least one step behind, not ahead, of the post you just replied to. This is clumsily phrased. Phlogiston theory is a theory ...
October 31, 2021 at 13:00
I cry foul here. Imagine a believer of the classical elements telling you that he just fetched a pail of water from the well. When you ask the guy wha...
October 30, 2021 at 13:08
No, being agentively integrated is what makes me (and you) an individual. We might could say you're an individual because you are "of one mind". For b...
October 30, 2021 at 02:28
This phrase sounds suspicious. There's a me, but there's no I being me? Also, there's definitely an "I" there. Something typed an entire grammatically...
October 29, 2021 at 11:58
Yeah, that's the real problem here. If qualia are epiphenomenal, how can we talk about them?
October 28, 2021 at 23:46
I'm not sure what "want" means to the precision you're asking. The implication here is that every agentive action involves an agent that wants somethi...
October 28, 2021 at 22:56
Ah, finally... the right question. But why not? Be precise... it's really the same question both ways. What makes what the robot not have a goal, and ...
October 27, 2021 at 12:31
Why not? But I want you to really answer the question, so I'm going to carve out a criteria. Why am I wrong to say the robot is being agentive? And th...
October 27, 2021 at 12:09
In terms of explaining agentive acts, I don't think we care. I don't have to answer the question of what my cat is thinking when he's following me aro...
October 27, 2021 at 11:10
I've no idea why you think it muddies the water... I think it's much clearer to explain why shaking after drinking coffee isn't agentive yet shaking w...
October 26, 2021 at 23:16
So answer it. The question is, why is it agentive to shake when I dance, but not to shake when I drink too much coffee? And this: ...doesn't answer th...
October 26, 2021 at 13:04
Just to remind you what you said exactly one post prior. Of course the robot interacts with bananas. It went to the store and got bananas. What you re...
October 26, 2021 at 11:18
Zombies are functionally equivalent to conscious entities. Generically different entities have different evolutionary histories (because "you count to...
October 25, 2021 at 01:27
Generically, I reject fate outright. I'm agnostic about determinism. And I'm agnostic about free will. This definition of fate roughly fits into the c...
October 23, 2021 at 20:15
I'm pretty sure if you understood what I was saying, you would see there's no contradiction. So if you are under the impression there's a contradictio...
October 22, 2021 at 17:26
I think you're running down the garden path. I'm a human. I experience things. I also understand things. I can do things like play perfect tic tac toe...
October 22, 2021 at 16:13
Space in and of itself is very important to agents... agents need to manipulate their environment, and space is essentially where the environment is. ...
October 21, 2021 at 13:39
So if a mind can give a complete description of a photon, then the photon is independent of the mind. But if the mind cannot give a complete descripti...
October 21, 2021 at 12:05
I'll say no. Will you answer my question now?
October 20, 2021 at 23:40
Is a purely physical description of a photon complete?
October 20, 2021 at 22:56
Let me phrase it this way. Imagine we make a robot driver that will stop at a red light; we need not add experience to the robot. By comparison, I'm a...
October 20, 2021 at 16:42
But it would be trivial, and tautological in a meaningless sense, to say that functional sight excludes the experience of sight. Words are boxes, and ...
October 20, 2021 at 13:52
This would imply that the experience of sight is a non-functioning element of sight. But surely the experience of sight is at a minimum functionally n...
October 20, 2021 at 13:02
Mary cannot tell she's seeing red without first learning that what she is seeing is red.
October 19, 2021 at 23:36
Not until it gets associated with color.
October 19, 2021 at 23:29
Insofar as it's new knowledge, it's necessarily knowledge about particular kinds of mental states. The question is, why can't those be brain states. B...
October 19, 2021 at 23:24
Try this... Mary is not really learning anything about "red" (the Jane/Joe/LED thing); she is learning something about her experiencing. Now let's wea...
October 19, 2021 at 23:12
...as opposed to knowledge of something physical. If it's physical, it would likely be a set of states Mary has. ...or some set of physical states of ...
October 19, 2021 at 22:52
Non-physical means not physical; it does not mean novel. It appears you're using "novel" to establish that this is not physical. That does not seem su...
October 19, 2021 at 22:16
With a little more precision, let's assume indeed Mary had the ability to see red. By that I mean that if Mary sees a 750nm LED glowing, then Mary has...
October 19, 2021 at 21:59
Nonsense. I want to pause here and take note of something very specific. The claim under scrutiny is whether physicalism is challenged by this or not....
October 19, 2021 at 18:44
It's kind of presumptuous to diagnose disagreements. You should just state your business, not theorize what you think is wrong with me such that I dar...
October 19, 2021 at 17:21
You're confused. khaled's objection is valid because the thought experiment specifically mentions Mary knows everything physical. If I know everything...
October 19, 2021 at 16:52
Sure, probably. But another possibility would be that Mary doesn't so much "learn" what it's like for her to see red, as she "develops a way for her t...
October 16, 2021 at 23:38
Not really. Let's define 750nm monochromatic light as red (monochromatic is key in the definition; and what we really mean is that only 750nm light is...
October 16, 2021 at 23:30
How is that minimal? You can make white by mixing two wavelengths; you're using three, a whole extra wavelength beyond the requirement! Also, didn't y...
October 16, 2021 at 13:01
Fill in the blank. White is light with a wavelength of ___ nm.
October 16, 2021 at 12:31
It's not really the same thing, in short. Language does more than what perception does, and perception does more than what language does. They deserve...
October 16, 2021 at 03:58
It might work as a metaphor, but I wouldn't go further than that.
October 16, 2021 at 03:53
There's language translation, and there's wrong. What color is a polar bear, Santa's beard, and snow? Your thought experiment is misguided. 7 is a num...
October 16, 2021 at 03:44
Eyes do not perceive, so the answer to the question is no (I'm sure you didn't literally mean that eyes perceive, but you have to be specific here eno...
October 16, 2021 at 00:25
Just a quick reminder... we're not talking about robots in general. We're talking about a robot that can manage to go to the store and get me some ban...
October 14, 2021 at 04:58
Pain is a feeling. Shopping is an act. If I see a person walking through the store, looking at various items, picking up some of them and putting them...
October 13, 2021 at 11:59
Your example isn't even an example of what you are claiming, unless you seriously expect me to believe that you believe persons with congenital analge...
October 12, 2021 at 23:04
And yet, Josh (guessing) does not understand Sanskrit, and you do not understand understanding. A person who does not understand something does not un...
October 12, 2021 at 12:07
The concept of understanding you talked about on this thread doesn't even apply to humans. If "the reason" the robot doesn't understand is because the...
October 12, 2021 at 10:13