InPitzotl

But that's irrelevant. The only way your contaminated environment can get contaminated is by putting viruses into that environment, and that requires ...

So here I've underlined something... presumably this is the goal. For discussion purposes only, I'll oversimplify. Let's say everyone is either health...

@"TiredThinker" Okay, but that would be wrong too. We have tests for deuteranopia (a particular form of "anomalous dichromacy") that don't involve sli...

This sounds suspicious to me. Why would the number of distinguishable colors be a linear function of total cone counts? (Incidentally our cone counts ...

Not sure what you mean: ...but how do you play this game?

Humans generally have three cone types and see colors under well lit conditions. The primary bio-physical layer is established by photopsins, which ar...

Perhaps, but, 25 days ago. you responded specifically to this: ...with this: So while you're speculating, is that because you're inexplicably the most...

Stop right here. No. The possibility does not invalidate your hypothesis; that's not the point of it. Your hypothesis is inadequately justified. The p...

The point here being to complete your argument, so pick the one that makes your argument least complete. Correct; from the link in the OP (i.e., the w...

No my friend, you are. Sure. But the fact that InPitzotl is using the word sound1 to describe what the invisible stuff around Bob and Sheila do has no...

It's hardly crucial, as this is a red herring. The sounds we're talking about are heard; Bob hears a sound and describes it to Sheila. Neither Bob nor...

Nope. People may have no idea that sound is vibration of a medium such as air (i.e., that sound is an "air state"), but still be able to talk about so...

I don't know, let's find out how absurd this is. Can Bob and Shiela communicate their mental states? Donning my physicalist hat, if you say yes, then ...

That 1 is false does not follow. E.g., 5 could be false, or 6 could be false.

I think you're interpreting this a bit more broadly than intended. Consider that A, B, C are wrong, D, E are permissable, to Joe, if you're Joe. A, B,...

Good... then we agree. This is just a tool to help with the reasoning.

Can you see how reasoning properly is useful in dealing with morality?

They are, exactly, abstract perfectly spherical cows; they are hypothetical fictitious moral options highlighting a gap in a specific line of reasonin...

I don't think your reasoning works... it seems to presume that all moral options are either objectively well ordered, or have no ordering. As such, yo...

So I've no problems with 1. Regarding 2, "all" is a gigantic ask, and I'm not quite sure this is accurate. There are animal rights activists who favor...

Sure, but it is one. Okay, so it's not a "proper explanation". Let's call it a clarification. But this clarification of morality proposes that moral p...

I don't see a difference. "X is what is basically going on" is the explanation. I'm suspecting the potential for illusory meaning... what exactly are ...

I'm more after meaning than science. Yes, this looks similar to falsifiability, but the basic idea is that if the thesis can explain everything, then ...

This whole thread has a bit of a smell to me. Throughout this thread, this has been your general proposal. To some particular challenges to morality y...

You're confusing your opinion with your argument. The stuff in section 2 is a different argument than what you've presented. Regarding that, some of t...

See section 3: https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/qualia-inverted/ I'm not so concerned with consensus among philosophers or any group of people for t...

There's a difference between a mapping being equivalent and the thing being mapped to being the same. This is how you originally engaged me: I read "i...

Try to pretend for a second that you understand math. Abstract the nature of experience out and let's talk about pure vector spaces. One example vecto...

It's because you keep talking about behavioral responses and disagreements on whether all people would agree that particular things are red if they si...

Okay, so since we keep going back and forth over this point, I've cobbled together the following illustration. Here's a color optical illusion based o...

"Justified" isn't the point. Purpose of holding this burden is. Usually when I see the certainty burden it's an indicator of a double standard of burd...

That actually describes erythrolabe (the L opsin). (I'm not saying anything's wrong here BTW, just that it's a bit interesting to hear talk of yellow-...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetrachromacy#Humans I have to say though... it's a bit interesting seeing this called a yellow-detecting pigment. I'm a...

Here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTXTPe3wahc (20 minutes, but worth the watch, and you can play faster if you like)

Schrodinger still sees a wavefunction. If you posit that the cat is an observer, then there are two cats; a living one, and a dead one. But Schrodinge...

In a double slit experiment, there's "a setup" where you see an interference pattern and "another setup" where you do not. So (a) conscious observers ...

Which cat? The living one? The dead one? Or the cat wavefunction that Schrodinger sees?

Ah, I see why you were confused now. But I think maybe you want to read this post a bit more carefully before suggesting that I might have misled you....

Probabilities come into play when you apply the Born Rule, and that's the rule you apply when observations are made. While the cat is in the box, it i...

Why would you need to appeal to chaotic processes? Start simple. Imagine we develop a fourth cone type and manage to develop tetrachromacy. You're mak...

You're really missing the point. "Evolution is conservative therefore we all experience redness the same way" is also an opinion. Opinion dismissal is...

Your working hypothesis doesn't work. Did you bother to try? At the highest level of abstraction this seems incredibly simple to me. We just postulate...

So? We can talk about color experiences of humans too... we agree on color categories in those 95% of individuals I described earlier. But that says n...

Well, no... but we can work out what a metamer is and a theory of protanopia and deuteranopia. I'm pretty sure the things you're looking for are somew...

Or differences in development. You have this backwards. Both alleles and environmental differences exist in the human genome and human development; bo...

Correct. That argument isn't compelling. Being of the same species suggests tons of similarities, and we do have those... we generally tend to have op...

Agreed. Well, it's this: A and B conflict. If we define h-red to be the experience you have when you look at a red crayon, then this category would be...

But that's conveying an "equivalence class" of objects and associating it with an "equivalence class" of sounds. This exercise requires me to recogniz...

I don't think it's even possible to define red in terms of an experience. How are you going to tell me which experience the color red is?

I think you've misread something. You quoted me as objecting to the meaningfulness of saying that science's ambition is "of course" to extend the leve...