Their internal world is part of your external world. If they are not external to you, then that would mean that they are part of you. Just because you...
Did neither of you understand what I said? From each of our perspectives, our feelings are external to the other. So, if your feelings are external to...
You tried to explain but failed. It isn't nonsensical. You merely took one small meaningless difference in a part of my post, that wasn't part of the ...
So, then how is it that you can even talk about your mental processes and feelings if you aren't aware of yourself, or your own mind? How is it that y...
People may be equal, but their ideas aren't. Were we discussing people or ideas on this forum? Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events...
Is the mind a model of the brain, or is the brain a model of the mind? When we look at another brain, why don't we see their experiences instead of ne...
Congrats, MU. You win the award for the most pathetic attempt to avoid answering a direct question. What is it with you "philosophers" that like to qu...
Are feelings not part of "outer" reality? Am I, and you, and charleton, all parts of reality? From each of our perspectives, the other two, and their ...
That is my perspective - of being inside the head of a body. If our minds are not processes of our bodies, then why does it seem that way? Why is it s...
Ummm, yeah. So, some theory that explains the mind and how it came to be, which includes whatever theory you have on the subject as well, isn't import...
That's not an argument against anything I said. I can just say that you're way off on this because you read Wittgenstein. Meaning is not the use of wo...
Meaning is not use, and I have made that argument over and over again on these forums. The thing is that there is a consensus on the use of the terms,...
This third person makes it more difficult for science only because this third thing hasn't been clearly defined in order to be falsifiable. Not only t...
Now you seem to be confusing the term, "observable". How is it that I'm not observing the external influences on my body, which includes my mind? When...
That's funny, Wayfarer, because a few months ago, you said this about those that deny the scientific consensus of global warming: If climate change de...
I'm trying to get at how the things which aren't out there interact with the things that are out there. Do you deny that your thoughts have an effect ...
By making the argument that science can NEVER explain the mind, you are implying that they don't interact, for if science can explain the stuff out th...
So, it comes down to the "hard problem"? The excerpt sounds like something a 17th century scientist might say about humans never learning how to achie...
I've worked it all out. It seems that it is you that hasn't worked out his problems. I'm trying to show you, if you'd answer the question. Halloween i...
Well, does the VR simulate experiences as well? If so, the those experiences would be programmed, determined. The "people" inside the VR would have no...
Now, that is a good example to work with. Color exists only in minds. You could say that our visual experience is also a feeling. But colors are the r...
I'm not confusing anything. I'm just trying to ask a question and to show you the consequences of your answer. If you don't want to answer because you...
Perfect. Then we agree that the form our ability to learn a language takes is innate - physical - a product of evolution. So then how do you go from s...
So the mind isn't part of the world? Then how do minds interact if not through the medium of the shared world? What is it that divides minds to call t...
Once I know that I'm in a VR, then it would only be useful to refer to the things inside the VR when speaking to others inside the VR that AREN'T awar...
Maybe it represents nothing, just as some words can be generated in the mind that don't refer to anything. Or maybe we could say that it represents th...
My answer would be that you can't reach out and touch beauty on the painting. It's not a thing out there. It's a thing in here. You can reach out and ...
This doesn't answer my question. You also keep avoiding questions. This is what you said: So, without the concept of what a post is, then there is no ...
Cavacava, when I read your post, is your post just another one of my concepts, and your post doesn't really exist except as my concept? In other words...
Ok, but isn't that just another concept, and not a real state-of-affairs. When you write a post, is your post just another of your concepts, or is it ...
There were many more before that. Let me help you: What governs how we form concepts? How did you come to agree on anything if we all have different c...
If concepts were given to humans then that means they must have existed prior to humans. So, who, or what, gave them to us, and in so doing, is that j...
Also, how did you come to agree on anything if we all have different concepts and different means of constructing our world? What is it that you are a...
Then why does my dog swim when in water? I swim when I'm in water, too. It seems to me that not only did we organize our experiences the same way (we'...
I think we ignore things not because they don't fit into our concepts, but because they don't fit into the current goal we have. Again, what governs h...
This doesn't seem to be much different than my explanation in making category errors when referring to something in the VR as if it weren't a represen...
I still don't get what you're talking about. Are you saying that without the concept of what a tree is in here, there is no tree out there? Is it our ...
This sounds like a contradiction. This sounds like you have direct access to reality to describe it with such detail and with such confidence, not ind...
My point was that he could make distinctions between objects without language. You seem to imply that The Man With No Words wouldn't be aware of anyth...
Words are just other sounds and visuals. How is it that words aren't just something that we then classify as words? Are we not aware of words until we...
If you are saying that you have an awareness of a mental property as opposed to a non-mental (physical?) property, then you are saying that you have a...
If the answer is both yes and no, then you have problem called inconsistency. Being inside the VR or outside of it doesn't matter. The VR exists objec...
Even the powerful mind that created the VR would still use it's language to refer to the objects in the VR, just as computer programmers and computer ...
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