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I would agree with this, there is a cultural aversion,and a tradition of non engagement. to engage at all is in some ways antisocial. I believe it is ...

This is something that consciousness will decide! :cool:

Its so good to see so much interest in consciousness. My 2 cents worth: An instance of consciousness leads to the next instance of consciousness, but ...

From Wikipedia: In The Sane Society, published in 1955, psychologist Erich Fromm proposed that not just individuals, but entire societies "may be lack...

The obvious answer to the OP is that we are part of the fabric of the universe! So what is most conscious in the universe? edit: Is a rock a part of t...

I dont get it?

what dose consciousness look like? If we knew we could tell if a rock is conscious!

This part is relevant to your original question, i dont know what the rest is all about. I did go to some trouble to explain this. I'll try again: Eve...

What is conflated?

Point out how?

I think consciousness exists in all living creatures on a spectrum. They experience a poke in the chops, in a similar way that we do. They feel pain r...

Sleep is a form of suspended consciousness, not fully unconscious, as in anesthesia. Reflex is a single movement. You cant apply that argument to the ...

The video below is 10min long. worth a look. A eukaryotic cell is poked with a human hair. Initially it recoils. When that dose not work it decides to...

A definition is an accurate description of something in an indivisible way. It dose not necessarily confer understanding, as many things are simply be...

Yes it makes sense, and it is interesting work. My instinct is that you would capture a larger audience by simplifying it a little. There is an enormo...

Thanks for the link. I’m familiar with Tononi, but I’ll check out the other two. I like Roger Penrose and co cellular microtubule proposition. If this...

There would be ways to do it for sure, but where would a materialist end up philosophically if they tried? What do you think?

Dealing with consciousness is exceedingly difficult, even for an idealist, but for a materialist maybe impossible. Materialism is historically rooted ...

It is one of the possibilities. If consciousness is constantly reconstructed

If this is correct then it will be impossible to find physical form for consciousness. As it will always be something different in the future. No endu...

Thank you for bringing up this topic, I too have been scratching my head about this for some time. I have found, and been told on a number of occasion...

Perhaps just answer my original query - I would be interested in what your perspective on the matter is.:smile:

My thinking is Idealistic in the vein of Shiva and Buddha, but far from solipsistic, if that is what you are intimating?

The clergy were too powerful. How many of your toys have provided you with enduring happiness?

Yes that is a very good point. If history was different here and there, we might be very different people - with a very different consciousness.

Thanks Brett, That could easily be the case. I'm hoping to get a few opinions, and then I need to think long and hard about it.

Yeah, something like that. Why do you think it is?

I think the tradition is not to engage with it, so when somebody dose, it seems crazy! Uncomfortable?

Freud and Jung put forward theories of consciousness. They proposed Brain working took a certain form.

I think you both bring up excellent points. Would you say that it was consciousness that Adiyogi and Buddha engaged with some 5000 years ago? When we ...

IMO Consciousness defines thinking. To understand thinking you have to understand consciousness. Until you do, you cannot define thinking. Except as a...

I suppose its not impossible, so it should be balanced with love.

Your suffering is no more.

Yogic Logic: Happiness results from an enjoyment of life. Desire exists on a spectrum, with hate at one end and desire on the other. If you can hate t...

The brain mind issue is a problem for materialists. For idealists not so . Whether consciousness arises in the brain or foot, or is a whole body pheno...

Sorry about that - very impressive.

Thanks for engaging. I was very impressed by your: You can use reason to justify reason of course. What you cannot do logically is use reason to debas...

How can reason be the ground if you re not conscious of your reason, but only the manifestations that represent it? Surely the ground then is that whi...

I'm an idealist - peace brother!

Dose a computer do this? Cellular microtubulles look promising : https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/01/140116085105.htm Try this: Consciousnes...

This thread has strayed a little off topic. Oh well - its to be expected.:smile: Consciousness = thought + emotion But which has the greater weight? D...

Point taken, I do not wish to upset anybody. but it is a philosophy forum. What I state aligns with Integrated Information Theory, and Global workspac...

Fair enough. Thanks

Thats no fun at all! Re Husseri - fair enough. I believe the below statement is true and defendable. On its own it says quite a lot: Consciousness ari...

I believe time is an illusion. But for those who believe it is a physical property of the universe, and who accept that a planck length of time exists...

Consciousness = thought + emotion - this I take to be the prevailing understanding. The details, and permutations of how this might work are numerous ...

There is a logical flaw with Husseri's statement. If you cannot discern the difference of two materials then you cannot say they are different. If you...

Thank you for your considered and thoughtful response. That consciousness arises at the same time a thought is formed seems correct. Once the thought ...

It is TRUELY substantive, if you believe time exists. As, if there exists a planck length of time, then time is a procession of discreet points like t...

You continue to evade the proposition.Obviously I am challenging the prevailing view. If I could pose my proposition to wikipedia or to the 20,000 odd...