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You're moving the goalposts. You specifically mentioned his "principles." That's been given. Anyone who accepts this principle may arrive at different...
December 27, 2019 at 00:49
No, there's plenty of confusion - you just don't want to admit it. Go talk nonsense somewhere else.
December 26, 2019 at 20:30
No, it isn't. That other systems are involved in language is not speculation, it's fact. That the nervous system is involved in the visual system isn'...
December 26, 2019 at 19:48
Yes, language is innate.
December 26, 2019 at 06:24
Maybe this will help: skip to 1:01:40. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cv66xFD7s7g&t=1167s
December 26, 2019 at 06:20
I don't really understand this.
December 26, 2019 at 06:19
Yes indeed.
December 26, 2019 at 06:06
It certainly appears so.
December 26, 2019 at 05:55
Thought. And not just a secondary aspect, like externalization. It seems to be the core "function" of language.
December 26, 2019 at 05:32
Sure, and the suggestion is wrong because "two modes of language" is meaningless. It's two modes of communication -- phatic and informational. Communi...
December 26, 2019 at 05:11
I'm not even sure phatic communication is an expression of thought, but let's say it is. It's certainly true that phatic means socio-pragmatic, and th...
December 26, 2019 at 04:02
Of what gets externalized in communication, most is phatic. The rest can be exchange of information. What "information" gets exchanged? There's an inf...
December 26, 2019 at 03:46
Chomsky has repeatedly stated, for the last 60 years, what he sees as the essential principle of anarchism:that power should be justified. That is to ...
December 26, 2019 at 03:42
My sentence was misleading. I forgot to put "most of what gets externalized." Obviously of the small part of what does get externalized, there's excha...
December 26, 2019 at 03:16
I'm not sure what "confirming" refers to here. "Emoting" is also vague -- one can emote without language. Animals can emote as well in this sense. Fur...
December 26, 2019 at 02:58
Ok, so I'll repeat: What's the characteristic use of language?
December 26, 2019 at 02:47
Turns out we've discussed this before: https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/comment/364151
December 26, 2019 at 02:40
Well when looking at the "function" of something, as vague as that notion is, what's usually done is to look at characteristic use to give you some in...
December 26, 2019 at 02:32
As I said before, music and arithmetic may have evolved separately, or they could be piggybacking off of language. There's a much more plausible reaso...
December 26, 2019 at 02:16
Not just irrational -- incoherent. Former is a groundless assertion; the latter completely wrong. We experience "nothing" all the time -- we know we d...
December 26, 2019 at 01:52
Fine. The only beings that experience are living things -- namely, animals. That's like saying that all things that don't "experience" in this sense, ...
December 25, 2019 at 02:12
That "it" may not be a faculty that is language specific: what's the "it" refer to? There's no question other systems are involved in language. Well n...
December 24, 2019 at 20:10
That's not at all natural. Using being to describe a "subject experiencing and reflecting" is a very narrow and idiosyncratic use. "Being" is used all...
December 24, 2019 at 19:59
Of course there's more. How language manifests itself is very complex. What I'm talking about is the uniquely human characteristic of language -- and ...
December 24, 2019 at 19:20
Let me see if I can parse this a little: : (1) being is an experience. (2) non-being is not an experience. (3) Being will always be. I don't see how e...
December 24, 2019 at 01:08
Exactly right. And perhaps an exaptation not only language, but arithmetic, music, etc. All unique properties of humans, all with this property that d...
December 22, 2019 at 18:34
(1) The core element of language isn't communication. Communication is one aspect of language. (2) So far as we know, only human beings have this capa...
December 22, 2019 at 18:12
I don't understand this sentence. "Nothing else that enters into it"? What's "it"? Being? What does the "else" refer to? Sure. What Heidegger is drivi...
December 21, 2019 at 19:10
Thank you. Hardly a "war," though. (For it to be a war, you need an opponent of some kind. StreetlightX is still stuck in intellectual adolescence -- ...
December 21, 2019 at 18:58
One way of distinguishing is to analyze a property of all human languages: that of recursive enumeration. The ability, as Von Humboldt noted, of using...
December 21, 2019 at 02:18
So you're clueless. Fair enough. "Language evolved for reasons other than language." LOL. Thanks for the laughs.
December 21, 2019 at 02:09
Regarding your confusion about what is being discussed regarding navigation (quoting the one article you've half-read and completely failed to underst...
December 21, 2019 at 00:52
If there's something else that's been raised, let me know. Perhaps I missed it. But I'm not seeing anything else except his misunderstandings and vari...
December 21, 2019 at 00:06
Is this a joke? What exactly did he "disregard"? Carol Chomsky studied language acquisition in children for years, actually. I suppose that was all di...
December 20, 2019 at 22:59
If you take a baby from any culture on Earth, and raised them in (say) the United States, they'd grow up learning English. This simple fact -- and the...
December 20, 2019 at 19:16
Eh, more nonsense. You repeatedly quote the Evans article. So here's a response, for those interested: https://www.languagesoftheworld.info/generative...
December 20, 2019 at 19:09
Yes, studying different cultures, base number systems, music, etc., is all very interesting and important as well. Studying various languages of the w...
December 20, 2019 at 18:51
"e suggest that by considering the possibility that FLN evolved for reasons other than language" This seems to be where you're confused. As I've repea...
December 20, 2019 at 18:37
For anyone truly interested in Chomsky's linguistics, here's a good place to start: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=068Id3Grjp0&t=4637s Skip to about ...
December 20, 2019 at 07:24
He doesn't show he understands Chomsky at all, repeatedly. He's cited a number of articles by Chomsky's detractors, and one article from Science -- wh...
December 20, 2019 at 07:14
Chomsky isn't saying natural selection doesn't happen, nor is he calling evolution into doubt in any way whatsoever. He's saying, and has said for yea...
December 20, 2019 at 07:09
Every human being has the capacity for arithmetic. There's little evidence that many primitive societies use it. The Babylonians had a sexagesimal num...
December 19, 2019 at 23:43
Good advice. Although a simple understanding of what you're criticizing is good start too. So far I see no understanding whatsoever. I wouldn't mind t...
December 19, 2019 at 21:47
Before throwing around insults, try to demonstrate that you understand what you're discussing. What you've just described is such a strawman that anyo...
December 19, 2019 at 21:39
Yes, that's the dogma. But it's not true. The story of a "small adaptation" spreading and being refined is just as fantastical. It's like saying arith...
December 19, 2019 at 20:59
Language is a digital infinite system. Like the number system. You can create infinite expressions. This is so obvious to even point it out is stating...
December 19, 2019 at 20:52
I suppose you're equally skeptical about relativity, evolutionary biology, electromagnetism, civil engineering, and other subjects of which you haven'...
December 18, 2019 at 20:24
Or feel free to grill me on it. If I can't explain it well enough for you to understand, then I hardly have the right to simply refer you to some othe...
December 18, 2019 at 19:44
Then consciousness is being? Like I said, you're then interpreting being in relation to the human being, particularly the human lifespan or human cons...
December 18, 2019 at 19:43
Also, are you familiar with the tadoma method for there deafblind? People can get a complex understanding of language from this. It's never been shown...
December 18, 2019 at 18:57